Kelechi osemele injury situation - very bad look for the Jets (update: Cut)

[JoPar_v2]

4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

sending out the wrong thing is one thing, sending incorrect on purpose is another

sure is. Problem remains: I think the GM is completely full of it and lying his face off. You can go ahead and stare at the totality of the facts of this complete rat**** and believe the GM as opposed to the player if you want to though.

[Seven-N-Nine]

On 10/18/2019 at 3:42 PM, Dablitzkrieg said:

She's dead you know.

[whatdrought]

35 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

The blank MRIs are definitely true, the GM admitted as much (he claims they “mistakenly”sent them, but still.)

 

I'm inclined to believe the Player in this situation, but the only evidence of his admitting it is the player saying he did. It's all he said he said at this point, and I doubt we'll ever get the full scoop. 

 

Either way, screw the jets. 

Edited October 23, 2019 by whatdrought

[MR8]

21 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

She's dead you know.

 

Does that mean you can't use a gif with her in it anymore?

[Seven-N-Nine]

3 minutes ago, MR8 said:

 

Does that mean you can't use a gif with her in it anymore?

 

Not what I meant.

[RoyBatty is alive]

17 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

sure is. Problem remains: I think the GM is completely full of it and lying his face off. You can go ahead and stare at the totality of the facts of this complete rat**** and believe the GM as opposed to the player if you want to though.

I just find it hard to believe, if what is asserted its sounds borderline criminal, i dont think is it is legal to falsify medical reports and the liability of this situation would be, the the deep pockets of an NFL team, thru the absolute roof.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

39 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I just find it hard to believe, if what is asserted its sounds borderline criminal, i dont think is it is legal to falsify medical reports and the liability of this situation would be, the the deep pockets of an NFL team, thru the absolute roof.

 

"Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity".  I expect there is some puffing-up of the situation on the player's side as well. 

On 10/20/2019 at 9:19 AM, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Isn't that the issue with Trent Williams and the Redskins?  I believe our own John Brown had some viewpoints that his injuries with Denver were mismanaged as well.

 

Medical opinions are usually written (in my experience) to hedge a bit and thus are usually subject to interpretation.  It would not be a surprise if the team interpreted in the way most favorable to their desired outcome while the player interprets differently.

 

It's also entirely possible that 1 or even 2 doctors and a test can miss something that a 3rd view or a 2nd test uncover.  We've experienced this in our family.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

18 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

"The source says the Jets have been attempting to delay surgery by sending blank and incorrect MRI images to doctors...even going as far as refusing to release workers comp forms."

 

There is no way this is true, I dont believe it

 

Oh, I'd believe the blank MRI...but it could just be incompetence

[JoPar_v2]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I just find it hard to believe, if what is asserted its sounds borderline criminal, i dont think is it is legal to falsify medical reports and the liability of this situation would be, the the deep pockets of an NFL team, thru the absolute roof.

I’d respond with something but hapless already did. If you can stare in the face of an obvious conflict of interest and lean on the side of “they made a mistake” then fine. I disagree i think the jets are a ship without a captain with their real owner playing make-believe diplomat. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

"The source says the Jets have been attempting to delay surgery by sending blank and incorrect MRI images to doctors...even going as far as refusing to release workers comp forms."

 

The "Source"

 

All as reported by world famous Adam Lefkoe on tweeter..tweeter the must "reliable and legt" new source ever created

 

I think if there was much validity to this the airwaves would be flooded with talk about this and the NFLPA would have a full frontal attack in place

 

Maybe they actually sent the wrong MRI by accident, they do happen, maybe reality is somewhere in the middle or maybe it never happened at all.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

"The source says the Jets have been attempting to delay surgery by sending blank and incorrect MRI images to doctors...even going as far as refusing to release workers comp forms."

 

The "Source"

 

All as reported by world famous Adam Lefkoe on tweeter..tweeter the must "reliable and legt" new source ever created

 

I think if there was much validity to this the airwaves would be flooded with talk about this and the NFLPA would have a full frontal attack in place

 

Maybe they actually sent the wrong MRI by accident, they do happen, maybe reality is somewhere in the middle or maybe it never happened at all.

Osemele told reporters yesterday that Joe Douglas admitted to sending the blank MRIs. 

[BillsFan4]

 

Gase comes off as a somewhat petty person to me. It’s not just this story either. It’s lots of stuff from his tenure in Miami and now NY. Like him sitting quietly off on his own during the draft this year, more/less refusing to participate because he didn’t like Maccagnan.

20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Osemele told reporters yesterday that Joe Douglas admitted to sending the blank MRIs. 

 

Osemele says Douglas told him it was "inadvertant" and an "honest mistake".  ?‍♀️ 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/keleche-osemele-claims-jets-gm-joe-douglas-admitted-to-accidentally-sending-blank-mris-to-doctors/ar-AAJg10K

 

Whatever the facts and truth of the matter may be, it's somewhat head-shaking that the Jets are choosing this player and situation as "a ditch they want to die on" (eg a place to make a stand).  

 

 

[KD in CA]

37 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Maybe they actually sent the wrong MRI by accident, they do happen, maybe reality is somewhere in the middle or maybe it never happened at all.

This feels one step away from the Jets apologizing for a “misunderstanding”.

[TOboy]

5 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

This feels one step away from the Jets apologizing for a “misunderstanding”.

 

But why have they been fining him??? 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, TOboy said:

 

But why have they been fining him??? 

 

 

Bad taste in ditches, would be my take ?

 

[Royale with Cheese]

27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Osemele says Douglas told him it was "inadvertant" and an "honest mistake".  ?‍♀️ 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/keleche-osemele-claims-jets-gm-joe-douglas-admitted-to-accidentally-sending-blank-mris-to-doctors/ar-AAJg10K

 

Whatever the facts and truth of the matter may be, it's somewhat head-shaking that the Jets are choosing this player and situation as "a ditch they want to die on" (eg a place to make a stand).  

 

 

 

This is where I'm confused.  If someone sends blank MRI's to a doctor, how is it not corrected immediately?  
Doctor: Hey Joe...the scans you sent are blank.  Please send over the correct ones.  

 

Shouldn't this have been resolved in a 30 second conversation?

[YoloinOhio]

 

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Gase is just awful. Such a bad leader of men. I will be surprised if he lasts past this season. There are already rumors that he's not a Darnold guy (and actually, he apparently loved Allen coming out), and at the end of the day, Darnold is more important to that team's future than Gase. 

[K-9]

1 hour ago, JoPar_v2 said:

I’d respond with something but hapless already did. If you can stare in the face of an obvious conflict of interest and lean on the side of “they made a mistake” then fine. I disagree i think the jets are a ship without a captain with their real owner playing make-believe diplomat. 

Jets owner is too busy pursuing legal settlements with plaintiffs vs. Johnson&Johnson. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

25 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

This is where I'm confused.  If someone sends blank MRI's to a doctor, how is it not corrected immediately?  
Doctor: Hey Joe...the scans you sent are blank.  Please send over the correct ones.  

 

Shouldn't this have been resolved in a 30 second conversation?

 

One would think.  Not even a convo involving the doctor.  Medical assistant A: Hi, this is Jill from Doctor Thirdopinion's office.  The DVD we received with Mr Osemele's MRI seems to be blank.  Can you expedite the correct DVD?  Embarrassed assistant who mailed DVD: "Oh I'm so terribly sorry, I'll get right on it!"

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Gase is just awful. Such a bad leader of men. I will be surprised if he lasts past this season. There are already rumors that he's not a Darnold guy (and actually, he apparently loved Allen coming out), and at the end of the day, Darnold is more important to that team's future than Gase. 

 

If that's true, why would he have even taken the Jets job when you know there's no way they are giving up on a QB taken #3 overall in favor of the coach.  He was still owed money from Miami so not desperate for a job I'd assume.

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

If that's true, why would he have even taken the Jets job when you know there's no way they are giving up on a QB taken #3 overall in favor of the coach.  He was still owed money from Miami so not desperate for a job I'd assume.

I mean do you think he picked it over a bunch of other HC jobs?

[YoloinOhio]

Jets are just taking it too far with these injuries tbh

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

5 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I mean do you think he picked it over a bunch of other HC jobs?

 

No certainly not, but why take any job if you don't think it's a good fit.  And if you didn't believe in Darnold, then regardless of anything else, it's not a good fit.  If he bombs with the Jets, that's two black marks on his resume,  and pretty bad ones too.  The likelihood of him getting a third chance is much less.

 

He could have instead sat out this year, and maybe would have got a better offer next year or the year after.

[Reed83HOF]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Jets are just taking it too far with these injuries tbh

 

love me some Gase drama

 

[Warcodered]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Jets are just taking it too far with these injuries tbh

 

Jets using alternative methods to repair their reputation for how they treat their players.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Warcodered

[K-9]

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Jets are just taking it too far with these injuries tbh

 

A deep dive into his groin? That could be mighty uncomfortable, depending on who’s doing the diving. 

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

No certainly not, but why take any job if you don't think it's a good fit.  And if you didn't believe in Darnold, then regardless of anything else, it's not a good fit.  If he bombs with the Jets, that's two black marks on his resume,  and pretty bad ones too.  The likelihood of him getting a third chance is much less.

 

He could have instead sat out this year, and maybe would have got a better offer next year or the year after.

People were surprised he got the job at all after failing miserably in Miami usually after that you have to take a step back and be a coordinator again. I don't think he could be at all confident he'd have a HC job available if decided to let this one pass him bye.

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

No certainly not, but why take any job if you don't think it's a good fit.  And if you didn't believe in Darnold, then regardless of anything else, it's not a good fit.  If he bombs with the Jets, that's two black marks on his resume,  and pretty bad ones too.  The likelihood of him getting a third chance is much less.

 

He could have instead sat out this year, and maybe would have got a better offer next year or the year after.

 

What was he guaranteed? If he got, say, $10 mil minimum for sure, it might have been worth the shot? If need be go back and get a coordinator job if you can? People say FA’s won’t come to Buffalo, but the money talks. (Now that we are winning, hopefully it gets easier to attract them!) 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

People were surprised he got the job at all after failing miserably in Miami usually after that you have to take a step back and be a coordinator again. I don't think he could be at all confident he'd have a HC job available if decided to let this one pass him bye.

 

I think it’s safe to say he interviews better than he coaches! 

Edited October 24, 2019 by Augie

[Jumpsuit Jim]

Next offseason the Jets will be lucky to get a courtesy visit from any free agents. Actually signing one would be either a miracle or a massive overpay for someone who is about done with their career. Two of the three biggest dumpster fires in the NFL are in our division. The third being the Redskins. 
 

I laugh at their misery. 

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, Jumpsuit Jim said:

Next offseason the Jets will be lucky to get a courtesy visit from any free agents. Actually signing one would be either a miracle or a massive overpay for someone who is about done with their career. Two of the three biggest dumpster fires in the NFL are in our division. The third being the Redskins. 
 

I laugh at their misery. 

Even last offseason they basically had to pay well above market to get the guys they did. The Mosley deal, regardless of how good he is was well above the highest paid LB at the time because he preferred to stay in Baltimore and only left because he couldn’t keep turning down significantly more $. The Jets were bidding against themselves with Bell, he waited as long as he could to go somewhere else but that was his only real option for the money. Then you had Anthony Barr whose agent did the deal and when he found out he said he was sick about it and totally reneged and stayed in Minnesota for less $. They have a terrible reputation that’s just getting worse. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Jets are just taking it too far with these injuries tbh

 

 

A deep dive .....

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[buffalo2218]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I never understood why this team was praised so much in the offseason with this guy at the helm

[K-9]

1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said:

I never understood why this team was praised so much in the offseason with this guy at the helm

Given their talent, I can understand the praise. 
 

But given that everybody knows it takes much more than talent to become winners, I’m surprised anyone is shocked at where the Jest are now. Especially with Gase at the helm, as you pointed out. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

To be fair,  one should probably point out that Mehta for years has kind of been Jets' perennial critic.  Like Jerry Sullivan but funnier and with more use of actual facts.

 

But yeah, since when is the coach, the leader, supposed to wait for a player to talk to him?  If it's true they benched or were about to bench Osemele, isn't that reason for the HC to proactively talk to the guy and lay it out (we're making a change, this is why, this is what we need to see from you to get your job back)?  If it's true the Jets have questions about his injury and it's not being resolved at lower levels, isn't that time for the HC to step in and see what the guy's story is?

[YoloinOhio]

34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

To be fair,  one should probably point out that Mehta for years has kind of been Jets' perennial critic.  Like Jerry Sullivan but funnier and with more use of actual facts.

 

But yeah, since when is the coach, the leader, supposed to wait for a player to talk to him?  If it's true they benched or were about to bench Osemele, isn't that reason for the HC to proactively talk to the guy and lay it out (we're making a change, this is why, this is what we need to see from you to get your job back)?  If it's true the Jets have questions about his injury and it's not being resolved at lower levels, isn't that time for the HC to step in and see what the guy's story is?

Mehta goes back and forth with being a supporter or a critic. I think he just likes drama.

[MR8]

37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

To be fair,  one should probably point out that Mehta for years has kind of been Jets' perennial critic.  Like Jerry Sullivan but funnier and with more use of actual facts.

 

But yeah, since when is the coach, the leader, supposed to wait for a player to talk to him?  If it's true they benched or were about to bench Osemele, isn't that reason for the HC to proactively talk to the guy and lay it out (we're making a change, this is why, this is what we need to see from you to get your job back)?  If it's true the Jets have questions about his injury and it's not being resolved at lower levels, isn't that time for the HC to step in and see what the guy's story is?

 

Mehta is a Jets Fan boy who goes 100 MPH for them when things are good and 100MPH against when they're bad. He has zero journalistic integrity ...

 

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, MR8 said:

 

Mehta is a Jets Fan boy who goes 100 MPH for them when things are good and 100MPH against when they're bad. He has zero journalistic integrity ...

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, that's priceless! Great find!