B-Man Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Republicans want whistleblower's sources, as inconsistencies in complaint emerge by Gregg Re Original Article . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: You do realize that the public does not get to vote on this? Politicians read polls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, B-Man said: They will in 2020. Even if the House brings charges, the Senate will show that it was a political play. Leading to 4 more years. . 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: I can't help but believe the Rose Law Firm is behind the whistleblower, not just representing him after the fact but involved in creating the complaint from the start. I stated this basically earlier in this thread. I have no proof so this is just a hunch, take it with a grain of salt. The line for uninformed posters who want to opine is over there on the left. and of course its a political play and so is Trump's, but to what advantage... still cant suck me back in... ok Peace out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Gawd you people are sad. I understand though. Denial is the first step. You'll reach acceptance, I just hope it's earlier than January 2021--if not earlier--when we have a Democratic President. Then it will be your turn. Be careful what you complain about when the “other guy” is in office because when “your guy” is in office all these posts of yours (and many others) will be searchable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Then it will be your turn. Be careful what you complain about when the “other guy” is in office because when “your guy” is in office all these posts of yours (and many others) will be searchable. Hey Chef what's cooking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 THAT’S DIFFERENT, BECAUSE SHUT UP: Trump Ukraine controversy: President’s opponents don’t want to talk about 2016 campaign. It’s definitely horrible for Biden. The former vice president brought this issue on himself, recounting in 2018 how he told Poroshenko years earlier to fire Shokin or forfeit a promised $1 billion U.S. loan. “I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours,’ ” Biden said at an event hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations. ” ‘If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ ” This was supposed to make Biden look like a tough customer apparently, but it raised the issue of conflict of interest, not to mention extortion. And they accuse President Trump of shakedown tactics? Please. Read the whole thing. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Foxx said: @John Adams Grow a pair an act like a man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 By declaring that he was not acting as Trump's attorney, Giuliani no longer has attorney-client privilege. What a buffoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 HANG the Whistle blower!! - Donald Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: and of course its a political play and so is Trump's, but to what advantage... still cant suck me back in... ok Peace out! Peace Out, stick to hockey. You make better sense over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 SOOO much love here as usual !!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Gawd you people are sad. I understand though. Denial is the first step. You'll reach acceptance, I just hope it's earlier than January 2021--if not earlier--when we have a Democratic President. This is getting tiring. Democrats are essentially arguing that the President doesn’t have the Constitutional authority to conduct foreign policy, and the CIA has decided that it should be the body who chooses who the President is allowed to be. This is already backfiring massively, and will cost Democrat’s the House. While those D’s in safe states are doing the bidding of the extreme elements of the electorate (their constituents), Democrats in mixed districts and in swing states are already talking about what a terrible miscalculation this was. Conversely, Republicans have been fundraising off the issue, and the President raised something like $10m in small money donations alone. Meanwhile Joe Biden is going down in flames over the Ukraine, and Dem donors on Wall Street have told the Democrats that if Warren tops the ticket they won’t donate. The Democrats have absolutely screwed themselves by deciding that the electoral will of the people doesn’t actually matter if the people choose to elect Republicans. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: You do realize that if Trump were driven from office that Pence would assume the Presidency? So very very improbable that we will see a Dem before 2021 and still very improbable that Trump will be driven out or not be able to run for office in 2020. Your "party" will soon learn the hard way that this is not the 1970's and that people will not be fixated for years over impeachment and Trump. So by October of 2020 most Dems will realize that once again they are the party which has nothing to offer the nation and stay home Election Day. I think 2020 will hinge heavily on Health Care. You might not like the Democrat plans, but the Republicans have no plan. 6 years to come up with an alternative to the ACA and 2.5 years with Trump in power and they still have no plan on how to make anything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 more truth for @Crayola64 and @John Adams https://twitter.com/15poundstogo/status/1177532477985972225 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: But didn't he withhold funding for multiple countries in an effort to equalize contributions (to some extent)? And still, that portion of the quote doesn't read the way you're saying it does. DR's position that you've wandered into is that Trump didn't withhold the funding to the Ukraine and something about earmarking. He did withhold the funding and admitted it. It's just a silly position. 8 minutes ago, Foxx said: more truth for @Crayola64 and @John Adams https://twitter.com/15poundstogo/status/1177532477985972225 Your childish obsession with me notwithstanding, what does that have to do with any position I've taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Let me start out by saying I have no actual proof of the following: It is looking more and more like an entity (Rose Law Firm?) looked for a possible way to get to new impeachment charges against Trump. I wonder if they held a casting call (such as they did with AOC) to find an appropriate whistleblower. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Let me start out by saying I have no actual proof of the following: It is looking more and more like an entity (Rose Law Firm?) looked for a possible way to get to new impeachment charges against Trump. I wonder if they held a casting call (such as they did with AOC) to find an appropriate whistleblower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: This is getting tiring. Democrats are essentially arguing that the President doesn’t have the Constitutional authority to conduct foreign policy, and the CIA has decided that it should be the body who chooses who the President is allowed to be. This is already backfiring massively, and will cost Democrat’s the House. While those D’s in safe states are doing the bidding of the extreme elements of the electorate (their constituents), Democrats in mixed districts and in swing states are already talking about what a terrible miscalculation this was. Conversely, Republicans have been fundraising off the issue, and the President raised something like $10m in small money donations alone. Meanwhile Joe Biden is going down in flames over the Ukraine, and Dem donors on Wall Street have told the Democrats that if Warren tops the ticket they won’t donate. The Democrats have absolutely screwed themselves by deciding that the electoral will of the people doesn’t actually matter if the people choose to elect Republicans. Very well could be and I've almost never contributed to a Presidential candidate, but this time around Mr. Trump is gonna get a check from me if for no other reason that we cannot as a country allow his political and media opposition to win given the tactics over the past 4 years. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Returned fire: unraveling lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: unraveling lol Crayola's hero. If he could only get past the 3rd chair he might be the next Jackie Chiles: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 The question now should be what will be the next manufactured hysteria inducing impeach Trump story? Whistleblower was clearly a failed effort to get ahead of the upcoming declass and IG FISA report. What's next? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I call for any impeachment votes to be made by the full HOR before the end of 2019. Everyone needs to go on record. This horseshit to keep the partisan fires alive in the committees that can only grandstand in order to fool the uninformed, is malicious and against what we stand for as a country. C'mon Nancy, push this impeachment through as if it is a faux healthcare bill. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Let me start out by saying I have no actual proof of the following: It is looking more and more like an entity (Rose Law Firm?) looked for a possible way to get to new impeachment charges against Trump. I wonder if they held a casting call (such as they did with AOC) to find an appropriate whistleblower. Well we know you have no proof because that’s an idiotic thing you just said. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Well we know you have no proof because that’s an idiotic thing you just said. Agreed. That's as well-supported as the Kavanaugh accusations. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Well we know you have no proof because that’s an idiotic thing you just said. There's a movie about it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Well we know you have no proof because that’s an idiotic thing you just said. It has been said that the whistleblower complaint appears to have been put together by a quality attorney on the level of a first chair. You may not have recognized the supreme work as just that though. BTW, the whistleblowers attorney is Andrew P. Bakaj of the Rose Law Firm. Here's a little info on Rose: https://compassrosepllc.com/bakaj/ 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: It has been said that the whistleblower complaint appears to have been put together by a quality attorney on the level of a first chair. You may not have recognized the supreme work as just that though. BTW, the whistleblowers attorney is Andrew P. Bakaj of the Rose Law Firm. Here's a little info on Rose: https://compassrosepllc.com/bakaj/ Well, you got me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Agreed. That's as well-supported as the Kavanaugh accusations. I freely stated that I had no proof but did have a hunch. I even said to take it with a grain of salt. I would agree with you that it is Kavanaugh level support. Never said anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Numark3 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: I freely stated that I had no proof but did have a hunch. I even said to take it with a grain of salt. I would agree with you that it is Kavanaugh level support. Never said anything else. Yes, and it’s still wildly dumb. Saying something has no evidence does not shield it from being dumb. anyways, moving on from that conspiracy theory.... how long does everyone think this whistleblower issue is going to dominate the news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 The evidence is only visible to the reality based community. The evidence is clear, Trump attempted to undermine our Republic, to corrupt our democracy and undermine the rule of law. He is a threat to national security. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 From that right-wing rag......................the Washington Post. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: From that right-wing rag......................the Washington Post. You are right, this clear Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: I think 2020 will hinge heavily on Health Care. You might not like the Democrat plans, but the Republicans have no plan. 6 years to come up with an alternative to the ACA and 2.5 years with Trump in power and they still have no plan on how to make anything better. It will hinge on an issue that the federal government has no power to control? Where in the constitution does it grant the federal government the power to run healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, dubs said: It will hinge on an issue that the federal government has no power to control? Where in the constitution does it grant the federal government the power to run healthcare. Implied powers. You want to take away Medicare from all the seniors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: It has been said that the whistleblower complaint appears to have been put together by a quality attorney on the level of a first chair. You may not have recognized the supreme work as just that though. BTW, the whistleblowers attorney is Andrew P. Bakaj of the Rose Law Firm. Here's a little info on Rose: https://compassrosepllc.com/bakaj/ It's entirely possible the whistleblower went to Rose to put the complaint together - were I in a similar situation, I'd consider legal representation. It's not unreasonable. But there's a large jump from that to "manufactured by a third party from multiple party's testimonies." It's also possible - and I wouldn't put it past Bakaj, who's rather something of an #######. But there's no facts supporting it, either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's entirely possible the whistleblower went to Rose to put the complaint together - were I in a similar situation, I'd consider legal representation. It's not unreasonable. But there's a large jump from that to "manufactured by a third party from multiple party's testimonies." It's also possible - and I wouldn't put it past Bakaj, who's rather something of an #######. But there's no facts supporting it, either. I don't disagree with you at all. This started out a couple posts or more back in what I called a hunch. The Rose Law Firm certainly has some connections to the liberal cause and even some somewhat well known politicians who have a bone to pick with Trump. My hunch, which isn't yet worth the paper it is written on is still more valid than some of the Left's claims and the abhorrent opening statement by Adam Schiff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Kemp said: Not surprised that you don't know what the ship refers to. I do. You still don't. None of this has ever been about Trump for me. That's why you're so lost, you keep assuming you're informed while proving you're not. Do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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