K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, patzen said: Huge props to Beane for upgrading the o-line so well in just one offseason. We just shipped off two starting o-linemen from last year that were going to get cut. Im not sure what side of the commentary I’m on here. Is it a sadder commentary about last year’s OL that two of the starters were gonna be cut or is it a happier commentary on the quality of players Beane brought in to replace them? I choose to believe the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Because it's okay to overpay for some guys. Yes. And he brings a lot of intangibles. And since when is 12 games a fraction of a season, unless you consider 3/4ths to be a fraction (and don't say "it's a fraction" and look stupid. They would need him to be great in all 16 games, because this isn't close to the Offense he was snapping to in KC. The Chiefs concluded he wasn't a significant enough piece of their insanely successful Offense to keep. Edited August 30, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Relax dude. Its just football. In my opinion, there is nothing impressive about the trade. Nothing at all. Sorry those comments clearly get you upset. So, it would have been just as impressive to simply cut Bodine and get nothing in return? If the elements of this trade were reversed, you’d be praising Belichick and ripping on Beane. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 one thing I haven't read said about Brand0n Beane...dude is a seriously gifted SALESMAN.....he is a selling slickster he even looks the part #sharpdressedman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: They would need him to be great in all 16 games, because this isn't close to the Offense he was snapping to in KC. So players have to be "great in all 16 games" now to be worth their money? There are approximately zero players who are great in all 16 games including Aaron Donald and Brady and anyone else you can name. Keep digging a deeper hole, it's the one thing you are good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 "Hey Johnny, positive comments are being made at TwoBillsDrive about a Bills. Start the signal". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Is NFL.com talking about the same Bodine? Quote Bodine has been a solid to average center through his career, but has vast starter experience. As NFL Network's Mike Giardi recently chronicled, players like Bodine have excelled once in New England thanks to legendary offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001045773/article/patriots-trading-for-bills-center-russell-bodine Watch out for soon to be pro bowler, cause you know cheatriots something, whipes chin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 2 good trades now getting something which most get nothing. How much of our O-line pass and run protection schemes translate would be my only concern? Edited August 30, 2019 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: So players have to be "great in all 16 games" now to be worth their money? There are approximately zero players who are great in all 16 games including Aaron Donald and Brady and anyone else you can name. Keep digging a deeper hole, it's the one thing you are good at. Do you think Beane has said to anyone "let's pay him whatever he wants. Even if we get 12 games out of him and they are pretty good games, who cares?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Well, *****. Bodine probably becomes the best center to ever play the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, K-9 said: If the elements of this trade were reversed, you’d be praising Belichick and ripping on Beane. Pretty obvi that there are some posters here that would praise anything anyone else does rather than even try to see the positives in any moves the Bills make ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Element115 said: I guess I am confused, if he was cut and he was a FA and could sign anywhere, he would sign with the Pats ofc if they called his agent, who wouldn't? would you change that horrible AV picture please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Do you think Beane has said to anyone "let's pay him whatever he wants. Even if we get 12 games out of him and they are pretty good games, who cares?" Yes. I do. Often. Which is less stupid an answer as your question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yes. I do. Often. Which is less stupid an answer as your question. Maybe you're right. 12 games would be an outlier over his past few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Except it wasn't. Look, if he goes out this year with another concussion, no one on this board will be standing up for the deal. He came back in December. They went 4-3 from there on. You are completely missing the point...... Mitch Morse was one of the TOP centers on the market available.....your gonna eat Bean's lunch because he went out and aggressively persued him? If you want to look like an ass ok but Beane did not stop there.....he brought in THREE center/guard combonation players that can also effectly play center. He doubled down on his efforts to fix a position. If Mitch works out....great for us....if he gets hurt....we are covered. Beane's job is to improve the talent of the team....he has done that. Be made last year's starting center expendable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Well, *****. Bodine probably becomes the best center to ever play the game. I bet Kyle Williams will want to come out of retirement to play against the Pats* if Bodine starts game #4. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: You are completely missing the point...... Mitch Morse was one of the TOP centers on the market available.....your gonna eat Bean's lunch because he went out and aggressively persued him? If you want to look like an ass ok but Beane did not stop there.....he brought in THREE center/guard combonation players that can also effectly play center. He doubled down on his efforts to fix a position. If Mitch works out....great for us....if he gets hurt....we are covered. Beane's job is to improve the talent of the team....he has done that. Be made last year's starting center expendable. Beans certainly has improved the O-line talent. But you bring up the point that he likely could have covered the C position without taking the risk on Morse. So I agree with you there. KC made their last year's starting Center expendable too. Who's their C? Edited August 30, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Tom Brady has a new butt...how nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ocemur said: I wonder who initiated the discussions. Pats starting Center is probably going to IR. Pats would be my guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Im not sure what side of the commentary I’m on here. Is it a sadder commentary about last year’s OL that two of the starters were gonna be cut or is it a happier commentary on the quality of players Beane brought in to replace them? I choose to believe the latter. Why not take both sides? There's nothing wrong with that. Last year's linemen pickups were patchwork players who could at the minimum hold the fort for the short term until the OL could be more substantively addressed when the franchise was going to be in a better cap situation the following year. These mediocre players were part of a flimsy unit. The next year a number of these bargain basement players were weeded out. The players who were brought in were much better and costly. The plan worked out as intended. The bottom line is that for the Bills and Patriots this was a marginal deal. Too many people are trying to overinterpret what transpired. None of the trading partners gained an advantage over the other. A marginal transaction is a marginal transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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