Jeffrey Epstein Arrested, DEAD in apparent suicide 8/10/19. Epstein Handler Maxwell arrested/denied bail.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Promo, you're barking up the wrong tree. Epstein doesn't get arrested if Trump isn't POTUS. Barr's DOJ indicted him. If they wanted to bump him off they could have done it any number of ways before he was incarcerated. 

 

There is no deeper Trump\Epstein connection waiting to be exposed. 

 

There IS a deeper Clinton \ Epstein connection which was JUST exposed the day before he died. 

 

Is that the latest Q breadcrumb? And you are kidding yourself if you don't think Trump, and a number of other powerful folks including Bill Clinton, aren't in deeper with Epstein's underage harem. 

Edited August 11, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[Teddy KGB]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Is that the latest Q breadcrumb?

 

Your penned works on Russia > Q 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Let the lawsuits begin! (continue)
 

 

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Its even funnier when you tune into any news channel or feed. 

 

The same group who pushed a baseless conspiracy theory about Trump being a Russian asset (with ZERO evidence) for two years thinks even suggesting a potential Clinton connection to the death is a bridge too far. ?

 

These are also the same people who pushed baseless Kavanaugh gang rape charges for weeks and weeks with zero evidence — but talk about the trail of bodies in the Clinton’s wake is a deplatforming worthy offense. 

 

Look at asshats in this thread who believed and pushed trump Russia without evidence (still to this day) trying to take a high ground in this thread claiming conspiracies are dangerous. 

 

They are exposing themselves day in and day out as people who are not interested in truth. Are not interested in justice. Don’t care about protecting children from predators if that predator has a D before his or her name. They’ve exposed themselves as enemies of truth and justice. 

 

And they can all ***** off. 

I used to be the one that thought we as a society had advanced beyond such atrocities as child rape/slavery, infanticide and anything goes politics. Of course there was always the odd exception of the rare sick human that would diddle the 10-year old or set a cat on fire but what we're seeing today is beyond comprehension. Some people celebrate that we are living in the best of times because everyone has a smart phone and backup cameras come standard on our new cars. I fear we have lost our individual compasses and are traveling down paths that will lead us to our own destruction. 

[Teddy KGB]

 

 

#1 trend on Twitter     Trumpbodycount ????

[3rdnlng]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Is that the latest Q breadcrumb? And you are kidding yourself if you don't think Trump, and a number of other powerful folks including Bill Clinton, aren't in deeper with Epstein's underage harem. 

On what basis do you make this charge?

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, 3rdnlng said:

On what basis do you make this charge?

 

On what basis do you all make yours?

[/dev/null]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

On what basis do you make this charge?

well duh, cuz #orangemanbad

[BeginnersMind]

20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Except he was supposed to be under suicide watch,

 

No, that was lifted weeks ago. 

 

20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

but curiously wasn't monitored.

 

He was monitored, perhaps negligently. But not according to a suicide watch protocol.

 

20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

AG Barr was "appalled" that this happened under federal detention. Oopsies.

 

The truth is that prison guards get paid crap and are not all that diligent in their duty, if they take it seriously at all. This is based on too much exposure to federal prisons over a period of time. 

 

I'd like to think that they would put forth extra effort to watch Epstein given who he is but it wouldn't shock me if they were playing Angry Birds on their phones for 5 hours. 

[Teddy KGB]

6 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

well duh, cuz #orangemanbad

 

Be careful.    He told me we would all be working for Putin by now ???

[Hedge]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Let the lawsuits begin! (continue)
 

 

 

Wasn't the Aaron Hernandez guilty verdict overturned when he committed suicide? I think it was then re-instated after that, however. But I think, in the brief period of time when it was overturned, his assets were protected from lawsuits.

[Teddy KGB]

1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said:

The truth is that prison guards get paid crap and are not all that diligent in their duty, if they take it seriously at all.

 

^^^^ bulllllllsht 

[3rdnlng]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

On what basis do you all make yours?

I suggest you read through this thread so you educate yourself rather than make yourself seem foolish.

[TakeYouToTasker]

18 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

On what basis do you make this charge?

 

On the basis that the President has no direct oversight over his Department of Justice (which he has direct oversight of), but does have direct oversight over a couple of prison guards (whom he does not have direct oversight of).

 

And so the Trump DoJ indicted Epstein, knowing that the President would be outed for criminal behavior which the public would be outraged over directly before the upcoming election cycle; but then Trump had his minions at a Federal prison take him out, because that chain of command clearly is direct, and everyone knows that prison guards are in close contact with the Oval.

 

Also important to note is that leaked Democratic talking points on the issue state to not link to, nor reference, the primary source documents which seem to clear the President of anything untoward, is in no way suspicious.

 

What about this is so hard to understand?

Edited August 11, 2019 by TakeYouToTasker

[Hedge]

1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

 

re·turn
/rəˈtərn/
noun

a key pressed on a computer keyboard to simulate a carriage return in a word-processing program, or to indicate the end of a command or data string.

 

Did you do that on porpoise?

 

[/dev/null]

10 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Be careful.    He told me we would all be working for Putin by now ???

how do you know you're not?

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

On the basis that the President has no direct oversight over his Department of Justice (which he has direct oversight of), but does have direct oversight over a couple of prison guards (whom he does not have direct oversight of).

 

And so the Trump DoJ indicted Epstein, knowing that the President would be outed for criminal behavior which the public would be outraged over directly before the upcoming election cycle; but then Trump then Trump had his minions at a Federal prison take him out, because that chain of command clearly is direct, and everyone knows that prison guards are in close contact with the Oval.

 

Also important to note is that leaked Democratic talking points on the issue state to not link to, nor reference, the primary source documents which seem to clear the President of anything untoward, is in no way suspicious.

 

What about this is so hard to understand?

It amazes me that anyone as ignorant of the subject as Promo would choose to even discuss the matter without taking the approach of educating themselves first.

[BeginnersMind]

 

15 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

^^^^ bulllllllsht 

 

You think prison guards are generally well paid at $15-$25/hour and dedicated to their craft? 

 

You are welcome to that opinion. Having a fair amount of experience with them, I’ll keep to mine as a general rule of thumb. 

[DC Tom]

 

1 hour ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

He also pointed out how it was literally IMPOSSIBLE to hanf oneself with the equipment in the cell. There was no where to tie your noose.

 

The jail issued clothing wasnt strong enough to not rip when you were suspended.

 

There's always a way.  If someone wants to commit suicide, they're going to.

[GoBills808]

15 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

On the basis that the President has no direct oversight over his Department of Justice (which he has direct oversight of), but does have direct oversight over a couple of prison guards (whom he does not have direct oversight of).

 

And so the Trump DoJ indicted Epstein, knowing that the President would be outed for criminal behavior which the public would be outraged over directly before the upcoming election cycle; but then Trump had his minions at a Federal prison take him out, because that chain of command clearly is direct, and everyone knows that prison guards are in close contact with the Oval.

 

Also important to note is that leaked Democratic talking points on the issue state to not link to, nor reference, the primary source documents which seem to clear the President of anything untoward, is in no way suspicious.

 

What about this is so hard to understand?

 

 I’d just throw in the point that MCC’s resources are a lot more complex than just ‘a couple prison guards’, and a federal witness with as much information as Epstein is a higher priority prisoner within the facility.

[Teddy KGB]

15 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

 

You think prison guards are generally well paid at $15-$25/hour and dedicated to their craft? 

 

You are welcome to that opinion. Having a fair amount of experience with them, I’ll keep to mine as a general rule of thumb. 

 

Riiiiight.    Because you make 40.00 an hour at full of shittt enterprises.com 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

58 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Is that the latest Q breadcrumb? And you are kidding yourself if you don't think Trump, and a number of other powerful folks including Bill Clinton, aren't in deeper with Epstein's underage harem. 

 

No, it's what the evidence released tells me. 

 

The only facts about Trump/Epstein's connection are these: 

* They socialized together at Mar Largo where Epstein was a member, and at an NBC event in NYC. 

* Trump flew from FL to NYC on Epstein's smaller plane with Epstein and his brother, no one else aboard. 

* Epstein was banned from Mar Largo by Trump when he assaulted an underage girl at the club (early 2000s)

* Per Epstein's personal slave, Trump never visited the island, never partook in flirting or sex

 

The same is NOT said about Bill Clinton who traveled with Epstein multiple times on the big plane (each time with underage persons aboard), he went to the island at least 6 times that we know of (and on the island there was child porn images on display which Bill saw and kept coming back anyway), we know Epstein visited the Clinton White House numerous times, and that he helped form the Clinton Foundation. We also know he and Bill spent time traveling Africa together... 

 

One is not like the other.

 

If Trump were scared of Epstein, he never would have arrested him. You are trying to force a conclusion you find palatable because you don't like Trump (which is your right, it's just not backed by evidence or logic).  

 

[Hedge]

 

 

I am assuming this will not include a toxicology report (which takes 4ish weeks).
 

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Hedge said:

 

 

I am assuming this will not include a toxicology report (which takes 4ish weeks).
 

 

"The ME finds he was shot, stabbed, hanged, drowned, poisoned, had acid thrown at him, was dismembered, was crushed by a garbage truck, and was mauled to death by a leopard.  Cause of death is ruled a suicide."

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

"The ME finds he was shot, stabbed, hanged, drowned, poisoned, had acid thrown at him, was dismembered, was crushed by a garbage truck, and was mauled to death by a leopard.  Cause of death is ruled a suicide."

...thought I read his bed sheets were actually paper, 24 lb if I remember correctly.....strange doings here.....VERY.....

[DC Tom]

Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...thought I read his bed sheets were actually paper, 24 lb if I remember correctly.....strange doings here.....VERY.....

 

Suicide by paper cut.  Duh.

 

Seriously...I haven't yet heard anything about how he killed himself.  Everyone seems to be assuming hanging.

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

Suicide by paper cut.  Duh.

 

Seriously...I haven't yet heard anything about how he killed himself.  Everyone seems to be assuming hanging.

 

Correct -- no official cause of death was given, or has been that I know of.

[TakeYouToTasker]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Suicide by paper cut.  Duh.

 

Seriously...I haven't yet heard anything about how he killed himself.  Everyone seems to be assuming hanging.

 

My brothers manage a federal prison.

 

If Epstein is actually dead (which I highly doubt, and believe him to be in military custody), and he committed suicide, they think it likely that he packed his bedding into his throat to cut off his oxygen and suffocate himself.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Correct -- no official cause of death was given, or has been that I know of.

...and it will NEVER be revealed.......I believe he was Jewish and if I'm not mistaken, burial must take place 24 hours after death according to their faith.......not sure of the legalities that could prevent that in lieu of an autopsy in a criminal case............

Edited August 11, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Golden Goat]

38 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

You think prison guards are generally well paid at $15-$25/hour ...

 

• Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour)
• Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour)
• Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour)

Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers?

[Deranged Rhino]

Thread -- starting in the middle: 

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

2 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

• Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour)
• Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour)
• Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour)

Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers?

 

His ass.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

My brothers manage a federal prison.

 

If Epstein is actually dead (which I highly doubt, and believe him to be in military custody), and he committed suicide, they think it likely that he packed his bedding into his throat to cut off his oxygen and suffocate himself.

 

...imagine if he has been CIA cloistered, how the left will explode?......Nadless will be in instant cardiac arrest......

[Foxx]

20 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

And you'll see in the documents that Maxwell was the one who connected Epstein to "powerful people" to whom he trafficked children. 

 

We have been talking about the possibility of Epstein being backed by an intel service of some kind -- Maxwell's father was Mossad. 

 

 

apologies if posted previously. however, interesting read...

 

Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal

[3rdnlng]

42 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Riiiiight.    Because you make 40.00 an hour at full of shittt enterprises.com 

 

Hey, he knows prison guards intimately. Many prison guards.

[/dev/null]

14 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

• Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour)
• Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour)
• Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour)

Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers?

 

$85k in NYC is not a high wage

 

And that's assuming the guards were involved in anything shady. 

 

Prisons are kind of like a Feudal System.  The DoC acts as the Pop or Holy Roman Emperor, keeping the gangs inside the system and from attacking one another.  But inside the yard, the gangs have their territories, leaders, code of justice, and power structure

[Golden Goat]

7 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

$85k in NYC is not a high wage

 

And that's assuming the guards were involved in anything shady. 

 

Prisons are kind of like a Feudal System.  The DoC acts as the Pop or Holy Roman Emperor, keeping the gangs inside the system and from attacking one another.  But inside the yard, the gangs have their territories, leaders, code of justice, and power structure

 

No question. The issue is that the poster is flat-out lying and/or doesn't understand how a union shop works.

No arguments from me that they're still underpaid and I wouldn't do it for $500K a year, so more power to them.

[Prickly Pete]

48 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

No, it's what the evidence released tells me. 

 

The only facts about Trump/Epstein's connection are these: 

* They socialized together at Mar Largo where Epstein was a member, and at an NBC event in NYC. 

* Trump flew from FL to NYC on Epstein's smaller plane with Epstein and his brother, no one else aboard. 

* Epstein was banned from Mar Largo by Trump when he assaulted an underage girl at the club (early 2000s)

* Per Epstein's personal slave, Trump never visited the island, never partook in flirting or sex

 

The same is NOT said about Bill Clinton who traveled with Epstein multiple times on the big plane (each time with underage persons aboard), he went to the island at least 6 times that we know of (and on the island there was child porn images on display which Bill saw and kept coming back anyway), we know Epstein visited the Clinton White House numerous times, and that he helped form the Clinton Foundation. We also know he and Bill spent time traveling Africa together... 

 

One is not like the other.

 

If Trump were scared of Epstein, he never would have arrested him. You are trying to force a conclusion you find palatable because you don't like Trump (which is your right, it's just not backed by evidence or logic).  

 

 

 

The people you are arguing with here already KNOW this info....they don't care, and just want to troll you and sap your energy.

 

[BeginnersMind]

35 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

• Glassdoor.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $53,312 ($25.63/hour)
• Payscale.com: Average salary for a NYC corrections officer is $60,926 ($29.29/hour)
• Nyc.gov: ENTRY LEVEL NYC corrections officer (Academy) pays $43,333 annually ($20.83/hour) … 5.5+ YEARS EXPERIENCE pays $85,292 annually ($41/hour)

Sooooo… Where’d you get your numbers?

 

I got mine from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 

 

Do you think those salaries in NYC actually counters my point? They don't make a lot of money. 

39 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

If Epstein is actually dead (which I highly doubt, and believe him to be in military custody),

 

Of course you do. 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

58 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

 

I am assuming this will not include a toxicology report (which takes 4ish weeks).
 

It doesn't matter what they come out with.  They could even release a video of him killing himself and it won't satisfy conspiracy theorists along with deeply partisan people.  I saw this chart going around yesterday I found funny.

 

 

Edited August 11, 2019 by Doc Brown