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DE Trent Murphy is now healthy and a completely different player, according to the Buffalo Bills coaching staff.

The Buffalo Bills must’ve been aware of the risks that came from signing Trent Murphy to a three-year, $21 million deal in 2018. Up to that point, the defensive end hadn’t played in an NFL game in over a year, as he was recovering from an ACL and MCL tear that forced him out of 2017. In 2016, he tallied 9.5 sacks, 46 total tackles, 25 QB hits, 55 pressures, and ten tackles for loss. His prior production and age (now 28) were enough to warrant the high price tag.

Before the start of the 2018 season, many were on the fence determining his worth to the Bills. By seasons end, many remained unmoved. Murphy’s rust was all too apparent while injuries to his ankle, groin, knee surfaced. But, when he saw the field (13 games, ten starts), flashes of his prior dominance prevailed.

Then at mandatory minicamps, head coach Sean McDermott added to the praise from Leslie, stating Murphy’s mental space as a reason for improvement:

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[Murphy] just looks like he’s in a different mental space. Another year removed from where he was last year when we first got him here. —  He is a big part of what we plan to do and affecting the quarterback and I just really appreciate what he brings to the table.

McDermott mentions that the team has big plans for Murphy in 2019, and for a good reason. Before being lost to injuries, Murphy was among the NFL’s most promising edge rushers. In Washington, his high-effort play and versatility helped him flourish as a hand in the dirt or standup pass-rusher and edge setter.

https://buffalowdown.com/2019/06/18/buffalo-bills-expect-to-see-a-different-trent-murphy-in-2019/

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McD put a lot of his eggs in the Murphy basket, which could end badly.  Though I hope Trent is the edge/DE they envisioned he'd be because the Bills need it.

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I can't wait to see what this defense will look like with a better pass rush !!!!

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would be such a huge addition if he can get back to form and get close to 10 sacks this year and play the whole season. he was really good against the run for the skins as well

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It would be unexpected at this point, but if he really is healthy and can play at a high level, this defense will be even more fun to watch this year!

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Yes, a threat on the opposite side of Hughes, plus expected pass rush from Oliver, should make the DL a force.

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38 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

McD put a lot of his eggs in the Murphy basket, which could end badly.  Though I hope Trent is the edge/DE they envisioned he'd be because the Bills need it.

He didn't put many eggs in Murphy's basket actually.

 

Trent has a very small contract compared to others, and they can release him next year with almost no dead cap if he doesn't work out.

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Isn't it king of strange that as fans we never think about these guys being injured? I mean, sure, we talk about injuries that keep guys off the field.  But, for whatever reason, we never talk about how a nagging injury may be affecting the level of play. Why is that? 

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16 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

He didn't put many eggs in Murphy's basket actually.

 

Trent has a very small contract compared to others, and they can release him next year with almost no dead cap if he doesn't work out.

 

Not so much contract dollar wise, but more position wise.  They drafted a DE/edge in the fifth round, which I don't think really addresses the need in the position; to me that is more depth than starter potential.  With the articles about Murphy supposedly looking better this year and the ACL injury behind him, it seems that they expect Trent to be a force this season.

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8 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Not so much contract dollar wise, but more position wise.  They drafted a DE/edge in the fifth round, which I don't think really addresses the need in the position; to me that is more depth than starter potential.  With the articles about Murphy supposedly looking better this year and the ACL injury behind him, it seems that they expect Trent to be a force this season.

They can get one next year. Defense was fine with a bad Trent Murphy last season so if he doesn't work out you won't notice any drop-off and they can get a new one next year.

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1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said:

They can get one next year.

 

Right, I agree, and that is probably what they'll do.  It looks like the plan this season is to roll with what they got on the roster right now.

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I don’t expect much from Murphy based on what I’ve seen from him in a Bills unit so far but, I’m a Bills fan and I’m all about “the process” so I got my trust in McD and will be rooting for Murphy to ball out...

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The main reason I would love to see Murphy improve this year and our D Line become dominant is because Tom Brady has won 11% of all Super Bowls played. 

 

Long term, I want the Bills to win. Short term, I would love to see Mr Brady put in the dirt. 

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Murphy getting 8-10 sacks this year would go a long way toward improving the Bills pass rush. If he could meet his vast potential, paired with the recent contract extension of Jerry Hughes, it would put the Bills in decent to good shape for the next couple years, in terms of pass rush.

Even so, they need to (and likely will) invest high draft picks into the position next offseason, as well as probably spending some free agency dollars.

The only thing that can vastly change both the short AND long term outlook at the EDGE position is if Shaq Lawson suddenly breaks out and becomes a 10+ sack-per-year guy. Now THAT would be something.

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14 minutes ago, HuSeYiN_NYC said:

I don’t expect much from Murphy based on what I’ve seen from him in a Bills unit so far but, I’m a Bills fan and I’m all about “the process” so I got my trust in McD and will be rooting for Murphy to ball out...

 

Well yeah, that was the point of the article. 

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If Murphy can get some heat off of the edge and Oliver can penetrate up the middle the pass rush good be nice. This defense could be GOOD. 

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35 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Isn't it king of strange that as fans we never think about these guys being injured? I mean, sure, we talk about injuries that keep guys off the field.  But, for whatever reason, we never talk about how a nagging injury may be affecting the level of play. Why is that? 

 

I don't know for sure, but in my experience in interacting on these kinds of boards, it seems a lot of fans don't care for excuses. "Your head fell off in a terrible smelting accident? Pff, cut him, he's useless!" I dunno, some people can be kinda heartless and not even really see players as human beings. This why I've never been keen on picking apart someone's game and trying to point out and nitpick what they don't do that well. I'm over here on a friggin' couch with one season of JV football under my belt, what the crap do I know? Stuff happens. Most of these guys play at less than 100% throughout the entire year. And some of them go to extreme measures to make sure they stay on the field. I remember reading a story back in the day about Jason Taylor, had a wicked back injury and the only way he could sleep was standing up, leaning against a wall. He'd get like 20 minutes and then walk around to loosen up his back and then try again to sleep. All so he could suit up and play on Sunday. It's pretty crazy what these dudes go through. 

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Will it be this guy? He's a different Trent Murphy.

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42 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Oh ya, I’m expecting 17-23 sacks this year from Trent.

 

That's definitely what the article said too

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39 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Isn't it king of strange that as fans we never think about these guys being injured? I mean, sure, we talk about injuries that keep guys off the field.  But, for whatever reason, we never talk about how a nagging injury may be affecting the level of play. Why is that? 

Excellent point.   We just think "he's good; whoops, now he's injured; now he's back and he should be exactly as he was."   

 

For athletes at this level, when you're at 100% you can play in the league; when you're at 95% you're out, because it's hard to be better at 95% than other guys at 100%.   So when a guy comes back from serious injury, he may come back at 95% and over the course of as much as a year get up to 97% and not get back to 99% until the following year.   A lot of guys never get all the way back physically, but some of those learn to adjust their games so that they're still competitive in the league.   For many it's a multi-year process.   It's silly to expect players to come back, walk onto the field and immediately be the same guy he was.  

 

The guys with real heart apply themselves, learn more, sometimes compensate for what they've lost physically with a good mental approach to the game.   It isn't so much an injury story, but it's kind of amazing that after so long in the league Lorenzo Alexander grew into an impact player.  

 

And, of course, some guys never get back to a point that resembles what they once showed.   And some other guys do get back, but back as journeymen, not real impact players.  

 

This is probably the year we find out about Trent - impact player, journeyman, or can't get it done.

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This is the time of year that optimism abounds. But, it's entirely plausible that both Trent and Shaq take a step forward this season. 

 

We have yet to see a 100% Trent Murphy in a Bills uni. There's plenty of reasons to be hopeful that this season we might. As far as Shaq goes, he has (albeit slowly) been getting better every year. Has he reached his ceiling? Perhaps not.

 

I could see Murphy and Shaq being a very effect rotation.  

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