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Kellen Winslow Jr...Accused of Raping 2 Women, one of which was homeless

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1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...and here we go making the poor lad out to be the victim......SMH........

 

..."Winslow has lived a “very uncommon life” that has been difficult, Watkins told jurors."....

 

 

He was paid a lot of money to play a game.  I guess that makes things difficult.

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some people are just not right in the head from the get go

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until this thread, i had zero idea any of this was going on.  this guy is a straight up sexual deviant.  

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2 hours ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

In America,  we are all about second, third,  ..., one hundredth chances.   Isnt' that the gist of the Chad Kelly thread? 

Forgiveness doesn't mean that you set someone free from prison without consequences, it just means that you forgave them and moved on with your life. Let him do his bid and may God have mercy on his soul.

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2 hours ago, BuffAlone said:

Claims the victims are going after money and the rape was in fact consensual...nothing to say about the 77 year old he Krafted himself near...what a freak 

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By definition, rape is NOT consensual.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

By definition, rape is NOT consensual.

 

 

Inocent till proven to be a complete monster. Which he will...hopefully

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What the heck happened to this guy...some "soldier"

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So hear me out... with the Kroft injury, IF and I mean IF, Winslow gets found not guilty...

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Hide yo grandmas......

 

seriously though it’s easy to judge... he obviously has issues... probably years of roid abuse and cte

 

he has always seemed angry

 

I pray for my enemies so I will pray for him as well... he needs it

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4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So hear me out... with the Kroft injury, IF and I mean IF, Winslow gets found not guilty...

One year prove it deal MAX! If he gets it together, fine. If not, we cut bait.

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4 hours ago, teef said:

until this thread, i had zero idea any of this was going on.  this guy is a straight up sexual deviant.  

 

Coming from you it really says something 

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19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Hide yo grandmas......

 

seriously though it’s easy to judge... he obviously has issues... probably years of roid abuse and cte

 

he has always seemed angry

 

I pray for my enemies so I will pray for him as well... he needs it

There comes a time when you can't blame anything besides yourself for your actions. Steroids, CTE, alcohol, whatever. His problems are his own. I mean, how many pro sports guys have those same obstacles? Are they going around raping old women? Those things are just an excuse.

 

And that goes for everyone else. Blaming alcohol is stupid. Blaming drugs is stupid. Nothing is to blame. People have to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

But yeah, it's easier to blame drugs or CTE and believe that you are not the one to blame.

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

There comes a time when you can't blame anything besides yourself for your actions. Steroids, CTE, alcohol, whatever. His problems are his own. I mean, how many pro sports guys have those same obstacles? Are they going around raping old women? Those things are just an excuse.

 

And that goes for everyone else. Blaming alcohol is stupid. Blaming drugs is stupid. Nothing is to blame. People have to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

But yeah, it's easier to blame drugs or CTE and believe that you are not the one to blame.

I don’t think I ever said he isn’t responsible for his actions 

 

they are despicable if true

 

I said he obviously has issues and I would rather pray for him than belittle him at this moment

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The guy is sick. I mean what the actual f***? Raping two 50+ women? He deserves worse than Darren Sharper.  

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4 minutes ago, H2o said:

The guy is sick. I mean what the actual f***? Raping two 50+ women? He deserves worse than Darren Sharper.  

 

30 cents or so would do the trick...

 

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16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don’t think I ever said he isn’t responsible for his actions 

 

they are despicable if true

 

I said he obviously has issues and I would rather pray for him than belittle him at this moment

There's a difference between understanding that we may not understand and absolving someone of guilt/accountability. Nobody in their right mind would claim justice shouldn't be served. At the same time, there must be factors that go into such bizarre behavior that we can't fully understand. Probably better off NOT understanding. 

 

 

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On 5/21/2019 at 11:11 AM, Canadian Bills Fan said:

https://apnews.com/8cfbcfd44bc34a05b5518d8cdaf55661

Didn't see this posted.

Trial started yesterday

WTF? Just when I thought he couldn't fall any further

Wow....

 

I don't like to make excuses, but this is so "out there" that one has to wonder if he's "right in the haid".  I believe socially inappropriate behavior and inability to control impulses are one symptom dementias can take.

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Yet another reason I keep getting him and Hernandez mixed up

 

...SAME ending here works perfectly.............

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18 hours ago, MJS said:

There comes a time when you can't blame anything besides yourself for your actions. Steroids, CTE, alcohol, whatever. His problems are his own. I mean, how many pro sports guys have those same obstacles? Are they going around raping old women? Those things are just an excuse.

 

And that goes for everyone else. Blaming alcohol is stupid. Blaming drugs is stupid. Nothing is to blame. People have to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

But yeah, it's easier to blame drugs or CTE and believe that you are not the one to blame.

 

On the one hand, I have a lot of sympathy for your point of view.

 

On the other hand, having myself to deal with two family members who have diagnosed neuropsychological deficits - if the ability to control himself is just gone, erased by neurological damage, it's kind of a slippery slope.  He may not be able to control aspects of his own actions. 

 

It gets difficult to parse.  On the one hand, one can probably take responsibility for being aware that one has a deficit, and avoiding situations which involve that deficit.

On the other hand, if the ability to think clearly and acknowledge deficits is gone...

 

Like I said, in general I'm with you, but disease processes that affect thinking and decision making do create a fuzzy line. 

If you don't get what I'm saying, then likely you have never have a family member with a head injury or psychiatric disorder, or an elder going into dementia and I hope you don't.

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I'll eat my hat if he doesn't have CTE.  It doesn't excuse the behavior at all, but he's obviously ill.

 

 

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