Rocket94 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I still think guys like Corey Luiget or Mo Wilkerson could be cheap free agent stopgaps at the three technique spot. Both are younger than McCoy but not as good. Luiget gives you elite run stopping and Mo has more length and pass rush ability. I don't think we are forced to take a three Tech, but if he's there you take Oliver. I agree. McCoy is still only "31" but perhaps a change of scenery would help. I read a recent article on Tampa going in a new direction...it happens. If not traded, he may be released anyway. Edited April 22, 2019 by Rocket94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The board probably does not like my offer. What’s the offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: What’s the offer? Still negotiating a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I really hope we end up with Christian Wilkins if we trade back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The board probably does not like my offer. We should get to see the offer before a bunch of people choosing the trade back option and missing out and all the first round graded prospects. This draft does seem to be a bit weak, I don’t see as many trade ups this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Trade back for Hock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, billspro said: We should get to see the offer before a bunch of people choosing the trade back option and missing out and all the first round graded prospects. This draft does seem to be a bit weak, I don’t see as many trade ups this year. A lot of what I heard,/read said about really 18 prospects, 3-4 of which are elite. So probably don't want to trade down past say, 18-20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Sneak Peek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The board probably does not like my offer. If not for #15 and #46, the Bills should pass. A slight premium but assuming Washington is going for a QB and that is the rate. The Bills should go no lower than 15 if trading back. The drop off starts here unless 3 QBs selected early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The Buffalo Bills have traded picks 9 & 112 to the Washington Redskins in exchange for picks 15 & 46. With the 9th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State Smart move and good value. I wouldn’t hate it if the Bills did this either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, billspro said: Smart move and good value. I wouldn’t hate it if the Bills did this either. It's not verified yet! Schefter tweeted that from my hospital room! ? But yeah, if trade back wins that's the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: It's not verified yet! Schefter tweeted that from my hospital room! ? But yeah, if trade back wins that's the deal. It's a done deal. ***Trade Alert*** The Buffalo Bills have traded picks 9 & 112 to the Washington Redskins in exchange for picks 15 & 46. With the 9th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State The Broncos are on the clock @MrEpsYtown 42 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I understand wanting different results. But Hock is clear BPA IMO. I'll put him in the poll at 15 if he's still there. Because this would overall be a different result. When this is all done, the purpose is to create a final representation of how we think the Bills will pick. We will show 3 options. The first winner will be to stay put and take Hock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, billspro said: Metcalfs stat line last year 4rec 81 yards 1TD 7rec 93 yards 1TD 2rec 92 yards 1TD 5rec 102 yards 1TD 3rec 37 yards 4rec 115 1 TD injury early in the game That is legit production in the SEC. If he doesn’t get injured he was on pace for 1100 yards and 10 TDs. I think he would have been a top three pick without the injury and we would be lucky to get him at 9. Same thing happened to Allen last year, if he had three more games on tape there is no way he makes it out of the top 5. I think the production narrative is false. The three cone time only matters if you have a bad coaching staff. He will not be successful in a West Coast type system but if you run go routes, slants, screens, hooks and ins (just like Calvin Johnson) he will be one of the best in the game. Corners will not be able to match his physicality all game. There are literally hundreds of SEC players that the same can be said for. The majority of them sucked. im not saying DK will suck, only that stating those stats as why he’s better is just irrelevant imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: What’s the offer? The initial offer was 1st (15), 3rd (76) , and 5th (153) for 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I have some guys I like but will consider a trade down. So let me know if anybody wants up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I guess we agree to disagree?. I see this as what happens in this scenario, not we already tested that option. In that methodology, no team should repeat. If Hockenson was on the board, I would have gone him. Since not, went Sweat as BPA in a position of need. All things being equal, I hope Oliver falls on Thursday. Why would you want to see something that you already know the answer to? In your mind, just know that Hockenson is the pick. We’re basically just seeing what our NEXT best option is. Great trade for the Bills imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I have some guys I like but will consider a trade down. So let me know if anybody wants up. I think everyone has said they want to trade down at every pick. At this point we need people who want to move up to start reaching out to people or we'll never get through 3 rounds in 3.5 days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: There are literally hundreds of SEC players that the same can be said for. The majority of them sucked. im not saying DK will suck, only that stating those stats as why he’s better is just irrelevant imo. I was just trying to show he has produced. A lot of people say he has no production. He has put up good production, it is just a small sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, billspro said: I was just trying to show he has produced. A lot of people say he has no production. He has put up good production, it is just a small sample size. I just don’t think he’s BPA or a need anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: I think everyone has said they want to trade down at every pick. At this point we need people who want to move up to start reaching out to people or we'll never get through 3 rounds in 3.5 days. agreed, if you arent getting offers before your pick then you wont get any by just simply stating your open to trading up and think someone is going to offer you a trade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I like this trade. We will get a good player at 15 especially if another QB like Drew Lock goes ahead of us and possibly a CB. I really hope Christian Wilkins is there at #15. I would also try a trade up into the 20s somewhere and grab Fant or DK Metcalf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: I just don’t think he’s BPA or a need anymore. You are in the majority for sure. It will be interesting who people think is BPA at 15. This is going to be an interesting mock. 3 minutes ago, wppete said: I like this trade. We will get a good player at 15 especially if another QB like Drew Lock goes ahead of us and possibly a CB. I really hope Christian Wilkins is there at #15. I would also try a trade up into the 20s somewhere and grab Fant or DK Metcalf. As long as we come out of this draft with two playmakers I will be happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, wppete said: I like this trade. We will get a good player at 15 especially if another QB like Drew Lock goes ahead of us and possibly a CB. I really hope Christian Wilkins is there at #15. I would also try a trade up into the 20s somewhere and grab Fant or DK Metcalf. This is another thing we need to discuss here. Community poll in about 10 more picks. If we want to, or feel the need to trade back into the 1st round for a guy like Hock, Fant, Ferguson, Greedy, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, mrags said: This is another thing we need to discuss here. Community poll in about 10 more picks. If we want to, or feel the need to trade back into the 1st round for a guy like Hock, Fant, Ferguson, Greedy, etc. I would like to see us trade back up and hopefully that’s what securing another low 2nd rounder allows. But i I may have to cowboy it for the sake of time. If someone of the top players fall, we will see. 18 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I think everyone has said they want to trade down at every pick. At this point we need people who want to move up to start reaching out to people or we'll never get through 3 rounds in 3.5 days. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: I would like to see us trade back up and hopefully that’s what securing another low 2nd rounder allows. But i I may have to cowboy it for the sake of time. If someone of the top players fall, we will see. This Then maybe we should take a quick poll while we’re in the drafting process to see if...... X, X, or X is there by 20-25. Would you like to attempt to trade up. If so, what are you willing to give up. Could be a pick next season. This season. Multiple combinations, players. Etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I'll make a pick in about 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) With the 10th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select Jonah Williams, OL , Alabama. @whatdrought is now on the clock. Sorry don't know how to link it. I believe that the Broncos will skip quarterback this year and I considered Lock and Bush, but I'm making Jonah my center and moving McGovern back to right guard. I believe Williams can be a Alex Mack level center. If Garret Bolles does not improve, I can always move Williams out. I'm basically grabbing the best OL available at this point. I'm taking the best OL talent avalable and allowing Mike Munchak to mold him into whatever he wants. I believe the Broncos want to win now. Edited April 22, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Virgil said: I would like to see us trade back up and hopefully that’s what securing another low 2nd rounder allows. But i I may have to cowboy it for the sake of time. If someone of the top players fall, we will see. This What if we traded down one more time with the Raiders? Trade #15 (1050) AND ??? Picks to the Raiders for #24 (740) or #27 (680) AND their 2nd Round Pick #35 (550) 4 Picks in the top 46! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, mrags said: Then maybe we should take a quick poll while we’re in the drafting process to see if...... X, X, or X is there by 20-25. Would you like to attempt to trade up. If so, what are you willing to give up. Could be a pick next season. This season. Multiple combinations, players. Etc Say if Metcalf drops... or Dillard, Sweat, Burns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, Virgil said: I just don’t think he’s BPA or a need anymore. We definitely need WR still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheBeane said: Say if Metcalf drops... or Dillard, Sweat, Burns? Well. I think we need a poll of names that drop. Just like we did the trade down scenario. Because many people will have different opinions of different players. I for one, don’t want anything to do with Metcalf. Unless the other top tier WRs are gone and he’s there with our 2nd round pick. Other than that, I’m not taking him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, mrags said: Well. I think we need a poll of names that drop. Just like we did the trade down scenario. Because many people will have different opinions of different players. I for one, don’t want anything to do with Metcalf. Unless the other top tier WRs are gone and he’s there with our 2nd round pick. Other than that, I’m not taking him there. I for one would take him first overall so I guess we neutralize each other lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 @whatdrought is on the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, hjnick said: What if we traded down one more time with the Raiders? Trade #15 (1050) AND ??? Picks to the Raiders for #24 (740) or #27 (680) AND their 2nd Round Pick #35 (550) 4 Picks in the top 46! I’d be on board for this right now without seeing who’s there right now. Without a doubt no questions asked. Not sure you need to ad any additional picks going to then tho. Not sure how the math works out on the picks. Maybe 15 for 24 and 27 and a 3rd or 4th. Edited April 22, 2019 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, hjnick said: What if we traded down one more time with the Raiders? Trade #15 (1050) AND ??? Picks to the Raiders for #24 (740) or #27 (680) AND their 2nd Round Pick #35 (550) 4 Picks in the top 46! Not happening. Raiders don’t have a 3rd rd pick. We’re definitely holding tight or trading down Edited April 22, 2019 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Not happening. Raiders don’t have a 3rd rd pick. We’re definitely holding tight or trading down Well see what happens when Josh Jacobs is getting attention at pick #22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Dilliard, Sweat, Burns, Wilkins possibly Cody Ford. 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Well see what happens when Josh Jacobs is getting attention at pick #22 Not using 2 high picks for a RB....and I love Jacobs. Just not happening. Stay out or trade back Edited April 22, 2019 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, hjnick said: What if we traded down one more time with the Raiders? Trade #15 (1050) AND ??? Picks to the Raiders for #24 (740) or #27 (680) AND their 2nd Round Pick #35 (550) 4 Picks in the top 46! Raiders need those picks. They have a lot of holes to fill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Interesting choice here for the Bengals. Several good players at positions of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just wanted to say that I'm about to head out of the house for a few hours. I have the pick right after the Bengals. I don't want to hold the whole draft up, so I hope @whatdrought picks soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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