Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Okay, so here’s where I am with the trade draft. Please vote in the poll, give feedback on the rules below, and then what team you want if interested 1 - Only one round. 2 - Each GM has to be an extremely active poster. This is so I know they will respond to trade requests quickly. The communication between GM’s is what is what normally shows things down. 3 - Players can be traded, but only known players on the trade block (Rosen, players franchise tagged or holding out) 4 - we will use the trade chart attached to @BuffaloHokie13 5 - trades in the top 10 must be a 300 point surplus favor to the team trading back. Trades between 11-20 (200) points, 21-32 (100) points 6 - you can only trade picks in the first 4 rounds or next years 1st and 2nd 7 - someone will be commish and approve all trades (I can do it, but if someone else wants to be involved) Round Trade Pts Team Owner 1 3000 Cardinals bkep32 2 2600 49ers Kirby Jackson 3 2200 Jets Reed83HOF 4 1800 Raiders whatdrought 5 1700 Buccaneers ndirish1978 6 1600 Giants BuffaloHokie13 7 1500 Jaguars New Era 8 1400 Lions Just Joshin 9 1350 Bills Community Poll 10 1300 Broncos Alphadawg7 11 1250 Bengals Emotionallyunstable 12 1200 Packers wppete 13 1150 Dolphins Ryanc883 14 1100 Falcons buffalobillswin 15 1050 Redskins Logic 16 1000 Panthers Golden Goat 17 950 Giants BuffaloHokie13 18 900 Vikings section122 19 875 Titans Chuck Wagon 20 850 Steelers RyanC883 21 800 Seahawks Watkins101 22 780 Ravens Virgil 23 760 Texans Happy Days 24 740 Raiders whatdrought 25 720 Eagles Golden Goat 26 700 Colts aristocrat 27 680 Raiders whatdrought 28 660 Chargers NewEra 29 640 Chiefs JimKellyTryouts 30 620 Packers wppete 31 600 Rams Alphadog 32 590 Patriots frostbitmic Edited April 14, 2019 by Virgil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 im in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: in 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: im in 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: in ***** it guys. What do you think of the rules?! You’re killing me smalls And yes, you’re in Edited April 10, 2019 by Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I don't think players should be traded. It opens up too many weird scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) If I'm the jets can I pick like a Bills fan or do I have to do it correctly? Edited April 10, 2019 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Im in! I like the rules. Can I be the raiders? (Definitely not related to draft capital) I also would be willing to be the commish if nobody else is able. Edited April 10, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I am okay for trades if say Rosen, Clark, etc are on the block (agreed to list of a few names upfront) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: I don't think players should be traded. It opens up too many weird scenarios. I normally agree, but there’s a good chance Rosen, McCoy, or the DE from Seattle gets traded. With having a commish, I don’t see anything dumb happening. Few players are known on the trade block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) @Virgil, As the one who has put all the work into these and provided so much fun for us, do you want to take the bills? It seems fair. 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I am okay for trades if say Rosen, Clark, etc are on the block (agreed to list of a few names upfront) The trade block is kinda gone these days.. everyone is one good offer away from being on the traded. What about something where teams had to submit one or two players names to the comish to create a "block"? Edited April 10, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: @Virgil, As the one who has put all the work into these and provided so much fun for us, do you want to take the bills? It seems fair. No. I want the Bills to be a forum pick. I appreciate it, but this isn’t about me I’m voting for a trade up to get Bosa or Allen if one of them don’t go in the top 3. If they go top 3, I want to trade back into the first if a top OL falls Edited April 10, 2019 by Virgil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: No. I want the Bills to be a forum pick. I appreciate it, but this isn’t about me I’m voting for a trade up to get Bosa or Allen if one of them don’t go in the top 3. If they go top 3, I want to trade back into the first if a top OL falls Makes sense, but seems hard to figure how we can do a forum pick with other gms being real people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Makes sense, but seems hard to figure how we can do a forum pick with other gms being real people. That’s why I’m doing the poll now to see where people are comfortable moving up to. The offer will be made to those GM’s if one of those 3 players are still available. Those GM’s can absolutely say no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I’m in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: @Virgil, As the one who has put all the work into these and provided so much fun for us, do you want to take the bills? It seems fair. The trade block is kinda gone these days.. everyone is one good offer away from being on the traded. What about something where teams had to submit one or two players names to the comish to create a "block"? I don’t know that there’s that many names besides those 3 that would make a difference in the first round. Not that they would get a first round pick in return, but the Giants pry wouldn’t go QB if they traded for Rosen. Everyone please vote in the poll Edited April 10, 2019 by Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I chose pick #5 ... 5 and 6 have the same cost so why not go with the better one...I don't want to lose my picks in rd 2 and 3, not with the talent that is there this year, so #4 is out for me too ... no way I'm giving the Jets my 2nd and next years 1st ... in reality, I don't see anybody in this draft worth moving up for from #9... if I was a team in the 20's maybe I would but not already being in the top 10 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 @Virgil I have added the other 2 mock bases to the spreadsheet and I'll try to keep up with any changes in GM for this one. I can help co-commish and review the points, etc. too. I've hidden the columns that are not relevant to the trade draft for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 don't trade up Beaner. There are cap ramifications and opportunity costs. Look at the mistakes of trading up for Zay, Dawkins, and Edmunds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: I don't think players should be traded. It opens up too many weird scenarios. Agree here i think that your numbers are good @Virgil Lastly, I think that, for this exercise the Bills should stay put and we do another poll. It is too tough to manage the Bills otherwise. Edited April 10, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pete said: don't trade up Beaner. There are cap ramifications and opportunity costs. Look at the mistakes of trading up for Zay, Dawkins, and Edmunds We are going to end up with two mocks where we don’t trade up. This is only one where we do. Just playing around and seeing options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I’ll take the Raiders please ? @Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Agree here i think that your numbers are good @Virgil Lastly, I think that, for this exercise the Bills should stay put and we do another poll. It is too tough to manage the Bills otherwise. 9 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: im in 9 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: in 9 hours ago, whatdrought said: Im in! I like the rules. Can I be the raiders? (Definitely not related to draft capital) I also would be willing to be the commish if nobody else is able. 9 hours ago, aristocrat said: I’m in 29 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: I chose pick #5 ... 5 and 6 have the same cost so why not go with the better one...I don't want to lose my picks in rd 2 and 3, not with the talent that is there this year, so #4 is out for me too ... no way I'm giving the Jets my 2nd and next years 1st ... in reality, I don't see anybody in this draft worth moving up for from #9... if I was a team in the 20's maybe I would but not already being in the top 10 ... 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Agree here i think that your numbers are good @Virgil Lastly, I think that, for this exercise the Bills should stay put and we do another poll. It is too tough to manage the Bills otherwise. What team do you all want? 1 minute ago, wppete said: I’ll take the Raiders please ? @Virgil Whatdrought asked first. 2nd choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: What team do you all want? Whatdrought asked first. 2nd choice? I’ll take SF if no one wants them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) As GM of the New York Giants, and mentor to Beane, I would like to offer Picks 17, 37, and next year's 1st (value 1900) for Picks 9 & 74 (value 1570) @Virgil Oh, if I'm GM of the Giants still... Edited April 10, 2019 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: As GM of the New York Giants, and mentor to Beane, I would like to offer Picks 17, 37, and next year's 1st (value 1900) for Picks 9 & 74 (value 1570) @Virgil Oh, if I'm GM of the Giants still... Ask again when we get to that pick and we can put it on the thread. For the sake of this, we are going to see if the Bills can trade up to get those big three. If not, we will be listening And yes, you have the Giants. Edited April 10, 2019 by Virgil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I would like to he the packers if possible, I think for trades they need to go thru virgil and another poster to get there approvals and everyone needs tobuse the same trade chart..ah la Jimmy johnsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, bkep32 said: I would like to he the packers if possible, I think for trades they need to go thru virgil and another poster to get there approvals and everyone needs to use the same trade chart..ah la Jimmy johnsons. The values for picks are the Jimmy Johnson values. Not my favorite, but the simplest and most widely understood. I've got all 254 picks listed here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Trade up only if it is 4 or higher. I really don't think Beane will give up the 2020 1st or maybe even the second. He values the "draft capital" too highly. Other than that the rules sound good to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, Virgil said: What team do you all want? Whatdrought asked first. 2nd choice? Thanks for that. I’ll take the Giants or Green Bay @Virgil Thanks for that. Can’t wait for the mock draft. Let’s do 2 rounds like last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, wppete said: Thanks for that. I’ll take the Giants or Green Bay @Virgil Thanks for that. Can’t wait for the mock draft. Let’s do 2 rounds like last year! You can have Green Bay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Lions please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: You can have Green Bay Awesome! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Can there be a no trade up option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, billspro said: Can there be a no trade up option? If the three players are gone, then we won’t 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I'll pass on this one to let others have some fun. I had the Jests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Can i take the cardinals or broncos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) I’ll take any team if there are any left I had the Vikings last time but would prefer another team this time around to mix it up. am I missing a list of teams available? Edited April 10, 2019 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I would rather not trade up and hope someone like Oliver drops to 9. I’d rather pick at 9 and then trade back into the bottom of the first for 2nd first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 if space is still left, I'm in. Don't care what team. Pref. is Steelers, but I'm fine anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’ll take any team if there are any left I had the Vikings last time but would prefer another team this time around to mix it up. am I missing a list of teams available? I’m doing all of this from my phone while I’m out of town for a meeting. I’m going to go back through the thread later and put names with teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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