Jay_Fixit Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Yes, I mean it. BPA is BPA. It’s that simple. ”Ohhh what if a QB is the BPA??!!!” Grow up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’m on board for BPA. If if they think there is a great corner vs an ok wr- go get that corner. I am on this boat and more on it every year. You need talent everywhere and anywhere. Get the best players that you can and break ties with positions of need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: BPA is all bull####. They will draft DL, TE, OLB, OT with the first four picks. I think it's more MVPA-most valuable player available, and the value would vary based on the make up of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 No. I'm BPA at premium positions (OT's, pass rushers), especially in the top 10. A player at a non premium position would have to be head and shoulders above the field to represent value. I'll exclude QB since the Bills won't be taking one of those this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Here is a better scenario than CB or safety. What if BPA is a center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: BPA is a myth. Teams essentially select the best player available that’ll fit a roster spot of need. BPAoN: Best Player Available of Need Ya totally, like when the Jets had Sheldon Richardson and Muhammed Wilkerson for their D interior and took.....Leonard Williams. BPA is very real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Here is a better scenario than CB or safety. What if BPA is a center? What if BPA is a punter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Logic said: I was thinking about this the other day. There are many fans on this board who say they're totally fine with the BPA strategy, i.e. drafting the best player available no matter what.. Many will go to great lengths to defend it or remind everyone daily that it's the way to go. I get it. I really do. I'm not here to argue against taking the best player available in each round. It's fine with me. I think every team does a little bit of lip service to it every year while also making draft picks that make it clear that "need" is at least a LITTLE BIT of a factor, but I digress. The point of this post is this: You say you're all for taking the best player available in each round, but if that idea is put to the test, how will you react? Here's the scenario -- The Bills have selected, let's say, Ed Oliver with pick 9. Now, after anxiously waiting for the Bills to be on the clock in the second round, it's finally time. Still available on the board are N'Keal Harry, Hakeem Butler, Irv Smith Jr, Chris Lindstrom, and Dalton Risner. The Bills turn in their card. We all wait with great anticipation as it is announced...."With the 40th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills select....Rock Ya-Sin, cornerback, Temple". Or "The Buffalo Bills select Jonathan Abram, safety, Mississippi State". Well? What's your reaction? Are you thrilled that the Bills got the highest rated player on their board? Are you not at all bothered that they didn't fill their offensive "needs"? What say you? When the tires hit the pavement, are you truly on board with drafting the BPA? All hell would break loose. I’d bet anything on it. Edited April 7, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Logic said: I hear you.Many people say "it's a mixture of both. You take the best player available at a position of need". And maybe that's the way to go. But that's not what pure "best player available" actually means. And again I say: A team may have a player who is not a "need" ranked unquestionably higher on their board than a player who DOES fill a "need". Should they ignore the difference in ranking and take the "need" guy? That's the big philosophical question here. And like I said, and like @HOUSE mentioned. To some extent, teams are full of *****. Many teams will talk until they're blue in the face about "BPA no matter what", and then invariably, their premium picks will be spent on need positions. Happens every year. It's a complex and nuanced discussion. In the end, I'm just wondering how our most ardent "BPA no matter what!" people would feel if that became a reality in the form of a non-need in this draft in an early round. ..makes much more sense versus a black and white "either or" proposition.......it's a hybrid decision.....good assessment.... Edited April 7, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 There are not that many top players in any draft-if you start drafting for need you lower your chance of getting one of the few top players available. Just because you have a "need" does not mean there is a player available this year to fill that need. Draft geeks wildly overestimate how many top players are available every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) The problem with this is we have no idea who is the BPA for them when they draft so we have no idea if they are telling the truth when they say that player was highest on the board. Edited April 7, 2019 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I think BPA may be a little broader in concept, meaning that players are likely rated in tiers and then you select your pick of need if they are on the same tier. All the players you listed could be on the same tier and therefore any of them is an BPA pick. When players fall and their tier grade is higher, you should select them regardless. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, HOUSE said: LOL, No team will admit they filled a need rather then the BPA Bunch of lairs... When you ask a question you know they can't answer, you should expect to be lied to and morally, I have no qualms with that. To say that they took a guy for need is to: 1. send the message to the guy you drafted that you don't think he is as good as his draft position and 2. you are telling all your current players at that position that they are awful and will soon be jobless. Probably not the best way to run a football team unless alienating both rookies and vets at the same time is your goal. And what would such a statement gain you? Edited April 7, 2019 by Mickey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Take the best player available. It’s that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Take the best player available. It’s that simple. ...um....er....ok........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Take the best player available. It’s that simple. how do you define BPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, HOUSE said: LOL, No team will admit they filled a need rather then the BPA Bunch of lairs... There will be a rationalization... Beane will say when we have two players at two positions essentially equally rated, we go with the position where we have the least depth. Another rationalization is that certain positions are prioritized before the draft begins...for example, QB is not seen as a round 1-3 need this year...but if Tyree Jackson is sitting there at the 29th pick of the 4th round -- you have to take him...its called accumulating assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, Logic said: I was thinking about this the other day. There are many fans on this board who say they're totally fine with the BPA strategy, i.e. drafting the best player available no matter what.. Many will go to great lengths to defend it or remind everyone daily that it's the way to go. I get it. I really do. I'm not here to argue against taking the best player available in each round. It's fine with me. I think every team does a little bit of lip service to it every year while also making draft picks that make it clear that "need" is at least a LITTLE BIT of a factor, but I digress. The point of this post is this: You say you're all for taking the best player available in each round, but if that idea is put to the test, how will you react? Here's the scenario -- The Bills have selected, let's say, Ed Oliver with pick 9. Now, after anxiously waiting for the Bills to be on the clock in the second round, it's finally time. Still available on the board are N'Keal Harry, Hakeem Butler, Irv Smith Jr, Chris Lindstrom, and Dalton Risner. The Bills turn in their card. We all wait with great anticipation as it is announced...."With the 40th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills select....Rock Ya-Sin, cornerback, Temple". Or "The Buffalo Bills select Jonathan Abram, safety, Mississippi State". Well? What's your reaction? Are you thrilled that the Bills got the highest rated player on their board? Are you not at all bothered that they didn't fill their offensive "needs"? What say you? When the tires hit the pavement, are you truly on board with drafting the BPA? Absolutely if he is truly BPA. Part of the BPA equation is if he is Best player available including whats on your Roster. Also what glaring need do we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’m on board for BPA. If if they think there is a great corner vs an ok wr- go get that corner. As a corollary, if the corner and wr are rated about the same, then you can pick for need, but to pass on a great player at one position to take a decent one because you have a hole at a particular position, is a plan for mediocrity at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I see BPA as a philosophy, not a hard and fast rule. Players are usually grouped in tiers. Within the tiers you try to select for need. There is not a BPA list from 1 to 200 and a team just picks the next name. Now in your scenario the player on the board was in tier 1 at a position of strength and all others were lower tiers, taken the BPA. The exception to that might be QB. So this discussion is all about definition of BPA. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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