Alphadawg7 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 hours ago, purple haze said: They didn't want to pay their young, ascending, stud WR, but they would pay an older stud WR in A.B.? I don't know... Cooper had been hardcore descending for in Oakland in 2017 and 2018. So he wasn't ascending, and everyone, including most this board, laughed at the Cowboys for giving a first round pick for him. But he had a major resurrection in Dallas from that point on validating the trade for Cowboys. He was a drop machine in Oak and a shell of himself in 2017 and 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Cooper had been hardcore descending for in Oakland in 2017 and 2018. So he wasn't ascending, and everyone, including most this board, laughed at the Cowboys for giving a first round pick for him. But he had a major resurrection in Dallas from that point on validating the trade for Cowboys. He was a drop machine in Oak and a shell of himself in 2017 and 2018. That entire team had issues. Cooper clearly had talent and was homegrown. I laughed at the Cowboys too for giving up a first, but Cooper, as we saw, still had the same talent. What makes you believe Gruden has any type of plan? I don't see him going after A.B. But then again who knows what that joker will do? We shall see. Edited March 2, 2019 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PetermansRedemption Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, One Buffalo said: Probably wouldn’t be wise for Washington to go after Brown and have Colt McCoy throwing to him ? Edited March 2, 2019 by Bills2ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) AB is being interviewed on sportscenter right now. He is laying into Ben. Said he never works out with him in the offseason Edited March 2, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: AB is being interviewed on sportscenter right now. He is laying into Ben. Said he never works out with him in the offseason From a QB perspective I don't think AB could find a better signal caller then J A because of the similarities in skill set between Allen and Big Ben. Many of AB's plays as a play maker occur on broken/extended plays in which the WR becomes next to impossible to cover for a long duration. The AB and JA combination would work well both from a performance standpoint and off the field personal relationship because its really hard to find much not to like where JA's concerned in my humble opinion. AB loves catching the football, and why not, he's arguably one of the best in the league. JA needs a go to guy. Odds are against it, but I'm holding out hope... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Figster said: From a QB perspective I don't think AB could find a better signal caller then J A because of the similarities in skill set between Allen and Big Ben. Many of AB's plays as a play maker occur on broken/extended plays in which the WR becomes next to impossible to cover for a long duration. The AB and JA combination would work well both from a performance standpoint and off the field personal relationship because its really hard to find much not to like where JA's concerned in my humble opinion. AB loves catching the football, and why not, he's arguably one of the best in the league. JA needs a go to guy. Odds are against it, but I'm holding out hope... As far as an on the field addition, it’s hard to argue there could be a better proven offensive playmaker for JA than AB Edited March 2, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Isn't it basically financially impossible for Pitt to trade him? Like a $20M cap hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, HansLanda said: Isn't it basically financially impossible for Pitt to trade him? Like a $20M cap hit? No, they can trade him and are trying to trade him. It’s not ideal from a cap situation though by any means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stony Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 17 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Cooper had been hardcore descending for in Oakland in 2017 and 2018. So he wasn't ascending, and everyone, including most this board, laughed at the Cowboys for giving a first round pick for him. But he had a major resurrection in Dallas from that point on validating the trade for Cowboys. He was a drop machine in Oak and a shell of himself in 2017 and 2018. I'd applaud Oakland for getting a 1st for Cooper and flipping that into Brown who could be had for less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 hours ago, One Buffalo said: The interview does Brown as much bad as it does good IMO. Perhaps Oakland is a good fit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Figster said: The interview does Brown as much bad as it does good IMO. Perhaps Oakland is a good fit... He's a little wacky. I watched Lebron's show "The Shop" on HBO this morning where he was a guest on. He's a character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Figster said: The interview does Brown as much bad as it does good IMO. Perhaps Oakland is a good fit... Yeah I am glad that we don't appear to be targeting him. It will sure be interesting to see where he lands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 hours ago, stony said: He's a little wacky. I watched Lebron's show "The Shop" on HBO this morning where he was a guest on. He's a character. He’s addicted to attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s addicted to attention. On and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020572/article/antonio-brown-i-dont-even-have-to-play-football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Whatever teams are interested in trading for this guy really have to be wondering if he has lost his mind to the point that he won’t be a productive football player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 AB is at fault, but I am so glad Ben isn't on our team. Hope he's had fun with his radio show 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020572/article/antonio-brown-i-dont-even-have-to-play-football I've done a 180 on this guy because of his mouth, Of all the things TO has done to gain attention throughout his illustrious and sometimes tumultous career, his love for the game of football to this day has never been questioned. It is a privilege to play in the NFL in my humble opinion. AB is not Gods gift to the game of football or planet earth. Get real. AB needs to retire... Edited March 3, 2019 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 14 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020572/article/antonio-brown-i-dont-even-have-to-play-football AB doing everything he can to kill his draft stock and stick it to the Steelers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 6 hours ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: AB is at fault, but I am so glad Ben isn't on our team. Hope he's had fun with his radio show Agreed about Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: AB doing everything he can to kill his draft stock and stick it to the Steelers Sure seems like it. The self inflicted attack on his character and trade value almost seems deliberate. Edited March 3, 2019 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I still think Bill's should make a move. He will come cheep now. A 3rd for AB. I agree he is bat ***** crazy, but he is a top 3 WR in the league. Josh would benefit from a player like this around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 His agent should take Brown’s phones and computers away until he gets traded and the new deal signed. This guy is talking himself out of millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Lol. Mr Big Chest ain’t helping no one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 what a nut job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsBlue Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Draft Hollywood brown if you want a brown for wr haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, BillsBlue said: Draft Hollywood brown if you want a brown for wr haha Or AJ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I have really gone back and forth on Brown. Early on I was all for trading for him. Then he really just started making things worse in social media and I started just souring on the idea of him given the strength in the WR draft class too. Shortly there after, he seemed to make peace with the Steelers and Owner to agree to part ways and thought this could be a good idea again. Now again he is hurting his case more making non stop media click bait clips and that is going to turn some teams off. I honestly do not worry about him being an issue if he did end up a Buffalo Bill, the problem though is that the media now has turned him into another LaVarr Ball. He keeps making click bait headlines, so the media is going to constantly put a mic in his face and try and bait him into saying something controversial just like they have with guys like TO and OBJ. Dont get me wrong, all those dudes brought it on themselves, but once the media is on you like this over dumb quotes, they never stop trying to force them. Rex Ryan is another good example. I certainly will be excited if he was a Bill, how can you not be thinking about Allen to Brown, but I neither expect it to happen nor is it my first choice. There are a lot of WRs I love in this draft class and I would love to take two. Grab one early in rounds 1 or 2 like Metcalf, Harry, Butler, Campbell, etc. then grab an additional one later...someone like Isabella, McLaurin, or Anthony Johnson in rounds 3 to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 3:51 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: That 2014 team would have murdered the 2017 team. Again, they destroyed something they didn’t need to destroy. We may pay a guy like Tyrell Williams $11 million/ year when we had Woods and Watkins. They traded for Kelvin Benjamin. I do respect you as a poster but you definitely wear the rose colored glasses (and I do wish I still do in a way). But it’s such a genius move by them. Tear down a middle class foundation and then cry poverty. Either way, this is their make or break season. And I truly hope you’re right. "That 2014 team would have murdered the 2017 team." So what! Those of you who still buy in to the notion that a "tear down" was not needed are the reason this team sucked at everything from 2001 - 2017 - you accepted an almost .500 team and would convince yourself that "next year" was the year. Sixteen years of poor scouting, drafting, FA signings, poor coaching, and no QB (stop with the TT BS, he is finished in the NFL). Bottom line this franchise was an utter failure with a mediocre culture that played on fans for a long time, keep tearing down and rebuilding - I know you want it and you want it now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Or AJ! I'd take either of them but id rather have a big bodied move the chains guy simce we already have our burner in foster..... My fab receivers for what we don't have on the team yet in order - Hakeem butler Nkeal Harry Dk Metcalf Aj brown And the kid from Notre dame last haha I'd place Hollywood right behind aj brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 10:42 AM, HansLanda said: Isn't it basically financially impossible for Pitt to trade him? Like a $20M cap hit? I believe the Steelers take the cap hit of $21.12 million regardless of whether they trade or cut him. Also, the team who trades for him gets him on a non guaranteed contract at $15.1M in 2019, $11.3M in 2020 and $12.5M in 2021. So, whoever is trading for him gets somewhat of a steal considering his talent level (unless he demands a new contract with more guarantees) and the Steelers are still screwed with the $21.12M cap hit next year. He couldn't of turned sour on the Steelers at a worse time for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 9:34 AM, N.Y. Orangeman said: AB is at fault, but I am so glad Ben isn't on our team. Hope he's had fun with his radio show The thing I like about Allen that we saw this year, is that no matter what, he’ll just tell the media things like “he was trying to make a play, I need to be better”. yes it’s cliche, and it doesn’t give the fans real insight into the situations sometimes. But he would rather take the heat than throw any of his receivers under the proverbial bus, or cause them to have to answer questions like, “Josh said you were supposed to do ‘A’ and you did ‘B’, what happened?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 If the Broncos make a move for AB, does that put Emmanuel Sanders on the block/cut candidate? I know he's pretty long in the tooth, but it might be worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: If the Broncos make a move for AB, does that put Emmanuel Sanders on the block/cut candidate? I know he's pretty long in the tooth, but it might be worth a look. They picked up Sanders option for this year, but that’s all I know What in the actual F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They picked up Sanders option for this year, but that’s all I know What in the actual F Showing how he can make that bank without having to play football.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Dkollidas said: The thing I like about Allen that we saw this year, is that no matter what, he’ll just tell the media things like “he was trying to make a play, I need to be better”. yes it’s cliche, and it doesn’t give the fans real insight into the situations sometimes. But he would rather take the heat than throw any of his receivers under the proverbial bus, or cause them to have to answer questions like, “Josh said you were supposed to do ‘A’ and you did ‘B’, what happened?” Well said, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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