Game of Thrones - And Now Our Watch Has Ended!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

More dragons coming to the rescue? Where DID Drogon go for all those months when he/she disappeared?

 

Have the hatchlings grown up enough to do some damage? 

 

Should be fun to see either way. 

 

That would be Awesome...  like I said  Euron was surprised.  

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

https://nypost.com/2019/05/06/games-of-thrones-accidentally-leaves-coffee-cup-in-episode/

Jamie was also caught holding a coffee cup during on of the scenes in the Keep.  Maybe Tyrions wedding? 

 

Brown eyes and blue eyes and green eyes.

 

 



  

I had to delete the last (dup post) as I mucked up the spoiler 

Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

STOP....KILLING...MY....DRAGONS

 

here's a spoiler just for you 

 

 

 

Look close 

 

[Rico]

My main picks:

 

Whole lot of deaths next week for those who are complaining about plot armor.

 

Arya and the Hound are on the way to take care of unfinished business. She will kill Cersei and he will kill the Mountain.

 

Jon Snow ends up on the throne at first, but not as a Stark.... with major help from Tyrion who flips from psycho Dany who is a goner.

 

One final confrontation between Jon and Sansa, no guess yet how that turns out.

 

 

This week’s show was most excellent, can’t wait to watch it again!

Edited May 6, 2019 by Rico

[section122]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

I really hope Sansa doesn't end up as the "last man standing" and hold all the power at the end.  She is probably my least favorite "main" character throughout the books and the show.  Her whole transition from "I like songs" to some sort of ruler was hastily done, was forced and doesn't make a lot of sense.  When Arya says that Sansa is the smartest person she knows or something, I was like "wut?".  Like what smart thing has she done or concocted in the entire series?  She is crafted as one of the "dumbest" characters who has trained only to be a "Lady" as intently as Arya has trained to fight/kill.  
I know she has 'been through a lot", and got a few lessons on being a sneak from Littlefinger, but I think its lazy to suggest she is suddenly a stone-cold ruler at this point.

 

Funny how we can both watch a show and reach completely different conclusions.  To me Sansa is the only one thinking clearly.  Dany is drunk on power, Jon is stuck on his honor code, Cersei has lost her marbles, Euron is clearly not right.  Sansa knew Cersei was fos when she said she would send her army, told Jon that Rickon was dead and not to take the bait, told Dany to wait and gather strength before pushing forward, caught on to Littlefinger (real late on the uptake I'll admit).  She is smarter than any of the Starks for sure.  She understands the game better than most.  She is also my pick to end up on the throne or ruling an independent north.

2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

here's a spoiler just for you 

 

 

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Look close 

 

 

I have gone from fast forwarding the opening credits to watching intently.  I knew someone was getting beheaded last night because of it!

 

Another thing I noticed last night was Dany's green eyes.  It almost looked like she was wearing contacts to make it noticeable.  Made me think that Arya will kill her instead of Cersei.  The whole last scene when they kept cutting to her closeup it was in your face.  As an aside, why wouldn't Cersei just waste all of those idiots who were within range of the dragon killing machines.  Even the Dragon was there and could have been shot at.  

[jkeerie]

3 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Funny how we can both watch a show and reach completely different conclusions.  To me Sansa is the only one thinking clearly.  Dany is drunk on power, Jon is stuck on his honor code, Cersei has lost her marbles, Euron is clearly not right.  Sansa knew Cersei was fos when she said she would send her army, told Jon that Rickon was dead and not to take the bait, told Dany to wait and gather strength before pushing forward, caught on to Littlefinger (real late on the uptake I'll admit).  She is smarter than any of the Starks for sure.  She understands the game better than most.  She is also my pick to end up on the throne or ruling an independent north.

Totally agree.  She learned from the best...Cersei, LittleFinger, and probably Tyrion.  Like she told the hound...she's not that little bird any longer.  I think she will likely remain in Winterfell.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

14 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Funny how we can both watch a show and reach completely different conclusions.  To me Sansa is the only one thinking clearly.  Dany is drunk on power, Jon is stuck on his honor code, Cersei has lost her marbles, Euron is clearly not right.  Sansa knew Cersei was fos when she said she would send her army, told Jon that Rickon was dead and not to take the bait, told Dany to wait and gather strength before pushing forward, caught on to Littlefinger (real late on the uptake I'll admit).  She is smarter than any of the Starks for sure.  She understands the game better than most.  She is also my pick to end up on the throne or ruling an independent north.

 

I have gone from fast forwarding the opening credits to watching intently.  I knew someone was getting beheaded last night because of it!

 

Another thing I noticed last night was Dany's green eyes.  It almost looked like she was wearing contacts to make it noticeable.  Made me think that Arya will kill her instead of Cersei.  The whole last scene when they kept cutting to her closeup it was in your face.  As an aside, why wouldn't Cersei just waste all of those idiots who were within range of the dragon killing machines.  Even the Dragon was there and could have been shot at.  

 

 

The lighting there is crappy  ...  They are a mix of steel blue with brown in near the iris.  

Almost green, but the others are 100% green

 

 

When Cersei  pulls a Bolton and fires on her won troops .....  Where do you think the Golden Company will turn?  

 

Lastly ... the Books and the Golden Company have their own backstory 

Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[GoBills808]

At this point I kind of hope Cersei wins.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

they have worked themselves into a corner of 90 possible plot twists, not intentionally, so they'll do whatever no matter how it bends any sense of science or fantasy

 

 

 

I mean, not to pick on you because its not just you, but all the people acting so incredulous regarding a couple of plot holes being unbelievable or illogical, in a show with winter zombies and dragons and magic... is a little  much.

 

If youre going to suspend disbelief, lets go all in and enjoy the ride. IMO.

[row_33]

17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

At this point I kind of hope Cersei wins.

 

i could dig it

 

11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I mean, not to pick on you because its not just you, but all the people acting so incredulous regarding a couple of plot holes being unbelievable or illogical, in a show with winter zombies and dragons and magic... is a little  much.

 

If youre going to suspend disbelief, lets go all in and enjoy the ride. IMO.

 

 

well... nobody expects a show to even get a greenlighting, let alone gain cult status, and after two seasons it starts to get to be a chore

 

they've done a good job with it, they have the fantasy curtain to pull back when things don't remotely make sense by time or geography or how long it takes to grow long hair.

 

Tyrion's speech voice at normal volume carried very well to the top of that fortress and behind him all that distance

[SDS]

3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

that's one scenario they are lining up.  Its what Varys and Tyrion were speaking about.

 

You saw she was "weirding" out when Jon was getting the attention and being called King . 

 

Apparently Episode 5 is titles “B itches Be Crazy”

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Apparently Episode 5 is titles “B itches Be Crazy”

 

stuff happens when a Sansa isn't getting the recognition she feels she deserves

 

 

[SDS]

5 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

stuff happens when a Sansa isn't getting the recognition she feels she deserves

 

 

 

I was more referring to the blondes, but it is a universal truth. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

there isn't much Sansa can do 1000 miles away by carrier crow 

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

there isn't much Sansa can do 1000 miles away by carrier crow 

 

no such thing as an angry woman too far away....

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

no such thing as an angry woman too far away....

 

 

    

[John from Riverside]

8 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

stuff happens when a Sansa isn't getting the recognition she feels she deserves

 

 

I feel like the Dragon Queen is getting a really bad rap and Sansa should be MORE GRATEFUL

 

Were it not for her this would already have gone very differently....

 

The night king would still be alive....marching towards Kings Landing....Winterfell haven fallen and Sansa and the whole of Winterfell would all be trodding along as the undead and NONE of this makes any difference at this point.....the Golden army and Cercei then stand no chance....and it is only a matter of time before the Night King would have won all....

 

SO BECAUSE OF THAT.....the Dragon queen is now down to Drogon (as of right this moment) and her huge army obliterated.......she didnt have to do ANY of this...

 

Bunch of ungrateful *$$*754

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

    

 

some thing was on tv or in a book or magazine a few weeks ago about a "mere woman threatening us"

 

no such thing as "mere" ever....

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

If Sansa wants Jon to succeed because she doesn't trust Dany ....

 

Will she bend the knee if he's crowned King?  

 

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

If Sansa wants Jon to succeed because she doesn't trust Dany ....

 

Will she bend the knee if he's crowned King?  

 

 

2.5 or so hours to wrap all of this up?

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

2.5 or so hours to wrap all of this up?

 

 

about that ....   

 

2.66666666666666666666666666

 

Edit - 

double checking  final 2 episodes 

80 minutes, and 80 minutes apiece

 

2.66666666666666666666666666 hours worth 

Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I feel like the Dragon Queen is getting a really bad rap and Sansa should be MORE GRATEFUL

 

Were it not for her this would already have gone very differently....

 

The night king would still be alive....marching towards Kings Landing....Winterfell haven fallen and Sansa and the whole of Winterfell would all be trodding along as the undead and NONE of this makes any difference at this point.....the Golden army and Cercei then stand no chance....and it is only a matter of time before the Night King would have won all....

 

SO BECAUSE OF THAT.....the Dragon queen is now down to Drogon (as of right this moment) and her huge army obliterated.......she didnt have to do ANY of this...

 

Bunch of ungrateful *$$*754

 

Well, had she not gotten involved, the NK would never had gotten his own dragon, and therefore never made it through the wall... So there's that aspect.

 

But I agree, Sansa should be more appreciative.

[row_33]

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Well, had she not gotten involved, the NK would never had gotten his own dragon, and therefore never made it through the wall... So there's that aspect.

 

But I agree, Sansa should be more appreciative.

 

oh please, all favours granted are long forgotten, Littlefinger was dispatched fast despite him saving them all from getting flayed

 

 

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Well, had she not gotten involved, the NK would never had gotten his own dragon, and therefore never made it through the wall... So there's that aspect.

 

But I agree, Sansa should be more appreciative.

I dont know man.....ice dragon or no ice dragon I feel like the Night King makes it through somehow......he had giants too

[GoBills808]

19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I mean, not to pick on you because its not just you, but all the people acting so incredulous regarding a couple of plot holes being unbelievable or illogical, in a show with winter zombies and dragons and magic... is a little  much.

 

If youre going to suspend disbelief, lets go all in and enjoy the ride. IMO.

 

I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. 

 

Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly?

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, row_33 said:

 

oh please, all favours granted are long forgotten, Littlefinger was dispatched fast despite him saving them all from getting flayed

 

 

She's probably not wrong to be wary, especially given all that she's been through.

[row_33]

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

She's probably not wrong to be wary, especially given all that she's been through.

 

for sure, i can't stop her, hard enough in real life... 

 

 

12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. 

 

Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly?

 

the time and distance travel of the Imp and Little Bird Dude was amazing to behold a few seasons back

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I dont know man.....ice dragon or no ice dragon I feel like the Night King makes it through somehow......he had giants too

HAD giants 

 

He had 3 or 4.   Watching the ep the 5th time through

You see a giant when the Dothraki meet them in battle. Then when the dragons are strafing the field with fire you see a giant get engulfed, that's possibly 2,  plus the one Lyanna Mormont killed.  

Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[SDS]

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. 

 

Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly?

 

Because this isn't an episode of 24 Hours.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

HAD giants 

 

He had 4.   Watching the ep the 5th time through

You see a giant when the Dothraki meet them in battle. Then when the dragons are strafing the field with fire you see a giant get engulfed, that's possibly 2,  plus the one Lyanna Mormont killed.  

Right...my whole point is in an alternate reality where the Ice King doesnt get a ice dragon I think they still make it through the wall....just sheer numbers somehow.....

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. 

 

Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly?

 

It takes a fortnight to travel by land half by sea

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

for sure, i can't stop her, hard enough in real life... 

 

 

 

the time and distance travel of the Imp and Little Bird Dude was amazing to behold a few seasons back

 

 

 

And how do they get from Dstone to KL after their whole fleet gets scorpioned? 

4 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Because this isn't an episode of 24 Hours.

 

I'm gonna be a little weirded out when Arya and the Hound show up for Cleganebowl  in KL on horseback at the same time as dragongirl's army.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

 

And how do they get from Dstone to KL after their whole fleet gets scorpioned? 

it wasn't the whole fleet .  it was maybe 5 of 25 ships 

[GoBills808]

Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

it wasn't the whole fleet .  it was maybe 5 of 25 ships 

 

So Euron just decided to spare 80% of his enemy's fleet because he's a decent guy?

[May Day 10]

14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. 

 

Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly?

 

In the interest of moving the story along (we dont need any more of the world-building from all the earlier travels), Im cool with transporting

 

However, attaching a tangible stopwatch, such as cersei's pregnancy throws the timeline out of being plausible.  She should have a toddler running around the battlements.

[GoBills808]

Just now, May Day 10 said:

 

In the interest of moving the story along (we dont need any more of the world-building from all the earlier travels), Im cool with transporting

 

However, attaching a tangible stopwatch, such as cersei's pregnancy throws the timeline out of being plausible.  She should have a toddler running around the battlements.

 

She should talk to BrannS, the dude is up on westerosi adaptive mobility devices...I think it was his only line iirc. He went from very important 3EyedRaven to wheelchair historian faster than you can ride a horse 1000 miles.

[May Day 10]

1 hour ago, section122 said:

 

Funny how we can both watch a show and reach completely different conclusions.  To me Sansa is the only one thinking clearly.  Dany is drunk on power, Jon is stuck on his honor code, Cersei has lost her marbles, Euron is clearly not right.  Sansa knew Cersei was fos when she said she would send her army, told Jon that Rickon was dead and not to take the bait, told Dany to wait and gather strength before pushing forward, caught on to Littlefinger (real late on the uptake I'll admit).  She is smarter than any of the Starks for sure.  She understands the game better than most.  She is also my pick to end up on the throne or ruling an independent north.

 

I realize that Sansa seems to be thinking clearly now (other than he seemingly unfounded distrust and dislike of Dany, as well as her clinging to the idea of the "North".  The undue tension Sansa has been creating with Dany is a primary driver of the upcoming conflict.  If Sansa was more supportive and backed Jon from the getgo, things would most likely have been easier.

 

But my issue is the sudden 'pivot' of Sansa being a naive "I like songs" girl who is abused and constantly getting manipulated, to this tough ruler who wears black suits with hoops and chains ornamenting them was kind of hasty and convenient.  I don't mind her if she ends up as lord of winterfell/warden of the north because she is the Stark with the best claim (considering Bran recognizes he isnt in fact Bran).

To see her end up at the very top of the heap as ruler of Westeros at the end would be lame (IMO)

[Heitz]

WTH was that?  There were too many dumb moments to mention about last night's episode - from the fact that the army that won "The Great War" suddenly became tactically stupid, to the fact that we didn't get to see the most important moments.  I LOVE this show, but last night was a big 'ol disappointment for me...

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

 

So Euron just decided to spare 80% of his enemy's fleet because he's a decent guy?

 

I don't know why or when he bailed.   

 

How can you not see a fleet from the sky riding a dragon? 

 

 

1 hour ago, Heitz said:

WTH was that?  There were too many dumb moments to mention about last night's episode - from the fact that the army that won "The Great War" suddenly became tactically stupid, to the fact that we didn't get to see the most important moments.  I LOVE this show, but last night was a big 'ol disappointment for me...

 

 

 

it would be better for the early on to be a horses head and the latter a horses *** 

 

People need to watch for entertainment purposes and not dissect every detail.  its more entertaining ... just saying 

 

 

 

1-4 had the books to follow.   5 - 8 they were winging it 

Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[Heitz]

Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

I don't know when he bailed.   

 

How can you not see a fleet from the sky riding a dragon? 

 

Which is one of my biggest beefs with last nights episode!  1) You're up above them, look around.  2) You've had a dragon killed in the past, be a little more cautious when flying into battle.  3) Maybe just don't fly HEAD ON into the boats, loop around and approach from the back so they have to shoot their own sails while you burn them up...

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I don't know when he bailed.   

 

How can you not see a fleet from the sky riding a dragon? 

 

 

 

He had enough time to scoop Missandei either from out the water or off her ship, so I'm guessing he didn't have to bail at all.