Ja’Waan Taylor OT Florida

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

Is Ed Oliver gonna be better than Williams the OT?   

 

Yes. Next question. ?

[MrEpsYtown]

4 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:

Why? Guards and centers go in the draft in the first round all the time. Why can’t a good right tackle? An improvement to the offensive line is worth a 1st round pick no matter what the position is IMO. A solid starting right tackle in the first round would be a million times better than the revolving door that is Mills.

 

They need to be elite to be picked in the top ten imo. Trade down? Sure. Otherwise it's a wasted pick with little upside. If they aren't in the Quentin Nelson, class you don't do it. I believe you should't do it for left tackles either...unless they are elite. They elite talent in the class are defensive tackles, Allen and Bosa, Devin White.  

 

The exception to this is when the Titans took Jack Conklin. It was a sort of weak draft after the top five so they drafted for need. But the passed on Leonard Floyd, Tunsil, Taylor Decker to do so. If Williams or Taylor are teh BPA at 9, fine take them. I count 12 defensive prospects better than those guys. 

 

Seriously everyone, please understand that Jonah Williams and Taylor and Little are nowhere near the elite talent that Quentin Nelson is. Not even close. 

[The Now Moment]

46 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I struggle to imagine a Nelson level guy whose ceiling is as a RT and couldn't go on to play on the left but if that person did exist I'd consider drafting them in the 1st. I just doubt very much that they do.

Two very good tackles would keep the outside rush in check and we could use the tight end more as a receiving threat for Allen. Get a guy that’s a mismatch weapon and give Allen a nice option to throw to. We need to be able to throw over the middle of the field better and a good tight end can fill that need. 

 

I think Buffalo can realisticly add two starters on the line in FA. If they draft a tackle, they are probably starting him at RT next year with Dawkins at LT still. If Dawkins bounces back and has a great year with more talent on the line as a whole, would you switch the guy we draft over the next season? I doubt it. Then, he can become just a RT that you drafted in the first round. I think the point should just be to bring in another solid tackle. 

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

Two very good tackles would keep the outside rush in check and we could use the tight end more as a receiving threat for Allen. Get a guy that’s a mismatch weapon and give Allen a nice option to throw to. We need to be able to throw over the middle of the field better and a good tight end can fill that need. 

 

I think Buffalo can realisticly add two starters on the line in FA. If they draft a tackle, they are probably starting him at RT next year with Dawkins at LT still. If Dawkins bounces back and has a great year with more talent on the line as a whole, would you switch the guy we draft over the next season? I doubt it. Then, he can become just a RT that you drafted in the first round. I think the point should just be to bring in another solid tackle. 

 

If they draft a tackle in the first round they are expecting that guy to start at LT next year. I have very little doubt of that.

14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

They need to be elite to be picked in the top ten imo. Trade down? Sure. Otherwise it's a wasted pick with little upside. If they aren't in the Quentin Nelson, class you don't do it. I believe you should't do it for left tackles either...unless they are elite. They elite talent in the class are defensive tackles, Allen and Bosa, Devin White.  

 

The exception to this is when the Titans took Jack Conklin. It was a sort of weak draft after the top five so they drafted for need. But the passed on Leonard Floyd, Tunsil, Taylor Decker to do so. If Williams or Taylor are teh BPA at 9, fine take them. I count 12 defensive prospects better than those guys. 

 

Seriously everyone, please understand that Jonah Williams and Taylor and Little are nowhere near the elite talent that Quentin Nelson is. Not even close. 

 

Conklin is in the Lane Johnson category for me. He is a guy who has started at RT because his team already had a very good left tackle. But I am pretty sure he could play left tackle in the National Football League. The Titans picking Conklin I had no issue with them trading up from I think 16 to 8 or 9 to pick him when Tunsil and Decker were still on the board as well was a strange move in my book.

[billsfan89]

7 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

3 Tds recieving 2 rushing TDs a sack and at least 1 forced fumble.

I thing the best thing fo Dawkins is for Teller to develope or to get another LG that will play well.

 

You could move Teller to the right side and sign a veteran LG and C. That way Dawkins and Teller both have a veteran presence next to them. 

[MrEpsYtown]

On the center idea, they highest drafted center over the last 20 years or so was Mike Pouncey at #15. It just is not done. The highest paid center in the league is Ryan Jensen, who was a tackle drafted in the sixth round who converted to center. 

 

Free agents we all want

Paradis - 6th round

Morse - 2nd round

Easton - UDFA

 

Darryl Williams - 4th round

 

According to PFF, who I don't love but a lot of people do...Jason Kelce is their highest rated center. Drafted in the 6th round.  Their highest rated RT is Mitchell Schwartz, who was drafted in round 2. 

 

Take a look at their top 25 offensive lineman of 2018. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-25-offensive-linemen-of-the-2018-nfl-season

 

Just 4 of them are top ten picks, Lane Johnson being the only RT on the list drafted in the top ten. The value just isn't there. 

 

If a guy is deemed a right tackle it means that there is some flaw in his game that keeps him from being a left tackle. That means he's going to be a flawed player right off the bat.  

[formerlyofCtown]

1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

 

You could move Teller to the right side and sign a veteran LG and C. That way Dawkins and Teller both have a veteran presence next to them. 

If Teller has the ability to play on that side then ok. I know Dawkins steuggles miightily on the right side.

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, formerlyofCtown said:

If Teller has the ability to play on that side then ok. I know Dawkins steuggles miightily on the right side.

 

I can't imagine Teller not being able to play on the right side. Guards are much more interchangeable from left to right and right to left in general than tackles. 

[MrEpsYtown]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If they draft a tackle in the first round they are expecting that guy to start at LT next year. I have very little doubt of that.

 

Conklin is in the Lane Johnson category for me. He is a guy who has started at RT because his team already had a very good left tackle. But I am pretty sure he could play left tackle in the National Football League. The Titans picking Conklin I had no issue with them trading up from I think 16 to 8 or 9 to pick him when Tunsil and Decker were still on the board as well was a strange move in my book.

 

I think Conklin is a bit overrated and I think the trade up did not make sense. However, it really was not a very good draft. I probably would have waited and took he or Decker..whoever was left. Conklin is a very good player, but I think rushers with some speed like Jerry Hughes would give him a lot of problems if he were playing left tackle. He'd probably be okay because of his excessively long arms. (I feel like we debated Conklin a little while back Gunner.) I do think Conklin can work his way up to the Lane Johnson category. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

As of right now the only offensive player that I have going in the first 9 picks is QB Dwayne Haskins Ohio State. This is a top heavy defensive draft, this might be the best DL draft to come out in quite some time.

[MrEpsYtown]

23 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I can't imagine Teller not being able to play on the right side. Guards are much more interchangeable from left to right and right to left in general than tackles. 

 

Ok some offensive line stuff I have learned over the years, coaching for 12 years in high school and going to many clinics. 

 

For some, right guard is considered more difficult to play because offensive lines usually slide their protection to the left. Meaning the center, guard and left tackle work in tandem to pick up blitzes. It makes sense to slide your protection to the side of the team's best pass rushers, which is usually the right end or rolb to attack the blind side of the quarterback. The running back usually goes opposite the slide, or tight end usually lines up on the other side, giving the right tackle some help. That often leaves the right guard in a one on one situation. Marshall Yanda/Zach Martin are the prototypes. With all of the crazy exotic blitzes these days, not all of this is important, but it is in line with the simple concept that teams need to protect the blind side of the quarterback. 

 

Also, because teams mostly use their tight ends on the right, (obviously this changes but many teams are very right handed) your defensive three technique winds up on that side a lot, giving him a one on one. It's how guys like Geno Atkins are so dominate. 

[Socal-805]

14 hours ago, billvernsays said:

Oh my bad. 

 

He’s someone who’s gotten better each year.  He’s different to a Greg Little who’s always seems to leave you wanting him to do a bit more. 

 

He’s got really nimble feel with is why I think he could be a LT in the NFL, but I think he could realistically play either Tackle or Guard position in the Pros which I think may make him very interesting to McBean. 

 

 

Armlegnth?

 

[billvernsays]

1 hour ago, Socal-805 said:

 

 

Armlegnth?

 

Not Ideal for a Left Tackle.

 

It’ll be interesting to see how he measures up against some of the other top OLINE prospects. 

 

I belive Little is the only top prospect with that ideal length (no-pun-intended)

Edited January 4, 2019 by billvernsays

[BADOLBILZ]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

A solid starting right tackle is a bad use of a first round pick. Solid starting right tackles don't impact Ws and Ls enough to make them worth a 1st round pick. That doesn't mean they can't improve your team - but there are 6 other rounds to improve your team and there are routes to get vets through FA and trade that improve your team. Your first round pick (especially if you are picking in the first 2/3rds of the 1st round as the Bills invariably have been) should be real key impact players at critical positions. If you want to take a tackle in the 1st and start him at right tackle I am fine with that, but it must be someone who you feel ultimately could be a starting blindside protector in the National Football League - because they more than any other linemen impact Ws and Ls and they are the people that are much harder to acquire through trade, FA and in later rounds.

 

Let's take Ja'Wuan James as our case study: 

- Drafted by the Dolphins in the 1st round of the 2014 NFL Draft (19th overall);

- Started as a rookie at RT opposite a proven vet in Brandon Albert on the left side;

- He started the season okay but when Albert got injured down the stretch he moved over to left tackle where he struggled badly with foot speed and movement skills in pass protection;

- Since then, returned to RT, he has given the Dolphins 4 really solid years of top 3rd of the league right tackle play;

- But going into 2016 (which would be James's third year the Dolphins) the Dolphins decided that they needed a long term answer to take over from Brandon Albert at LT in 2017;

- They judged James did not have the necessary skills to play left tackle and as a result spent a second 1st round pick in 3 years on an OT taking Laremy Tunsil;

- By the end of 2018 the Dolphins are in a position where James is a FA and it looks unlikely they bring him back, meaning that for their investment of a 1st round pick they have got 4 good years of production at a non-premier position.

 

That isn't a bust by any means... and he did improve their offensive line. But it is a poor return on investment. And I would argue James has been more than "a solid starting right tackle". He still hasn't been worth it. Now if when Albert moved on they had felt good enough about James to slide him over to the left side and he had become the starter there then I have no issue with him playing his first 3 years on the right side. But what the Dolphins did was spend a 1st round pick on a guy whose NFL ceiling was good right tackle.

 

 

Excellent take.

 

And one of the key points you are making is about that money.

 

Draft your own studs at the big $ positions and then you will have plenty of money to poach other teams guards or right tackles in free agency.

 

We've been a farm system for other teams this century when doing things like this...........Donte Whitner,  Willis McGahee etc.. Before them there was a period when corners were less valued and we seemed to take one every year and then just lose them in FA.

 

Now.......with 1st round contracts only 4 guaranteed years instead of the 6 in Donte's day......you REALLY can't afford to not be thinking about the value of the position in round 1.

[JimKellyTryouts]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

A solid starting right tackle is a bad use of a first round pick. Solid starting right tackles don't impact Ws and Ls enough to make them worth a 1st round pick. That doesn't mean they can't improve your team - but there are 6 other rounds to improve your team and there are routes to get vets through FA and trade that improve your team. Your first round pick (especially if you are picking in the first 2/3rds of the 1st round as the Bills invariably have been) should be real key impact players at critical positions. If you want to take a tackle in the 1st and start him at right tackle I am fine with that, but it must be someone who you feel ultimately could be a starting blindside protector in the National Football League - because they more than any other linemen impact Ws and Ls and they are the people that are much harder to acquire through trade, FA and in later rounds.

 

Let's take Ja'Wuan James as our case study: 

- Drafted by the Dolphins in the 1st round of the 2014 NFL Draft (19th overall);

- Started as a rookie at RT opposite a proven vet in Brandon Albert on the left side;

- He started the season okay but when Albert got injured down the stretch he moved over to left tackle where he struggled badly with foot speed and movement skills in pass protection;

- Since then, returned to RT, he has given the Dolphins 4 really solid years of top 3rd of the league right tackle play;

- But going into 2016 (which would be James's third year the Dolphins) the Dolphins decided that they needed a long term answer to take over from Brandon Albert at LT in 2017;

- They judged James did not have the necessary skills to play left tackle and as a result spent a second 1st round pick in 3 years on an OT taking Laremy Tunsil;

- By the end of 2018 the Dolphins are in a position where James is a FA and it looks unlikely they bring him back, meaning that for their investment of a 1st round pick they have got 4 good years of production at a non-premier position.

 

That isn't a bust by any means... and he did improve their offensive line. But it is a poor return on investment. And I would argue James has been more than "a solid starting right tackle". He still hasn't been worth it. Now if when Albert moved on they had felt good enough about James to slide him over to the left side and he had become the starter there then I have no issue with him playing his first 3 years on the right side. But what the Dolphins did was spend a 1st round pick on a guy whose NFL ceiling was good right tackle.

 

You bring up some good points, but there are always other cases that can be brought up - like Lane Johnson to Jason Peters and Jack Conklin to Taylor Lewan.

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

 

You bring up some good points, but there are always other cases that can be brought up - like Lane Johnson to Jason Peters and Jack Conklin to Taylor Lewan.

 

Both of those are guys I think can play LT though. Lane likely will next year. Conklin in fairness might need to leave Tennessee to do it. 

[formerlyofCtown]

3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I can't imagine Teller not being able to play on the right side. Guards are much more interchangeable from left to right and right to left in general than tackles. 

To tell the truth im actually pretty excited about Teller.  I was stoked when the Bill drafted him.  Felt the same about Harrison as well.

[billsfan89]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

As of right now the only offensive player that I have going in the first 9 picks is QB Dwayne Haskins Ohio State. This is a top heavy defensive draft, this might be the best DL draft to come out in quite some time.

 

The more I evaluate the draft the more I think pick 9 will be a D-line player, which while not a drastic need would be a need (I think the pass rush needs a shot in the arm and the D-line needs more younger players, besides Shaq and Phillips all the other D-line players are older players.) I wouldn't mind at all a RT as I think this philsophy that if you draft a RT at 9 its such a reach if they can't be swung back over to the left side is foolish. RT is a premium position in the modern NFL. A lot of the top pass rushers in the NFL rush against the right side. You need 5 top O-line players and they are all becoming harder to find. So while being able to shift over to the left side is a positive trait it isn't a make or break in my opinion. 

[The Now Moment]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If they draft a tackle in the first round they are expecting that guy to start at LT next year. I have very little doubt of that.

 

 

I don’t know about that. Dawkins has more experience and it’s probably smarter to wait and make sure the rookie can manage himself at the pro level by playing him in the right side. They will make him earn it. We will see how things shake out. 

[The Now Moment]

4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

They need to be elite to be picked in the top ten imo. Trade down? Sure. Otherwise it's a wasted pick with little upside. If they aren't in the Quentin Nelson, class you don't do it. I believe you should't do it for left tackles either...unless they are elite. They elite talent in the class are defensive tackles, Allen and Bosa, Devin White.  

 

The exception to this is when the Titans took Jack Conklin. It was a sort of weak draft after the top five so they drafted for need. But the passed on Leonard Floyd, Tunsil, Taylor Decker to do so. If Williams or Taylor are teh BPA at 9, fine take them. I count 12 defensive prospects better than those guys. 

 

Seriously everyone, please understand that Jonah Williams and Taylor and Little are nowhere near the elite talent that Quentin Nelson is. Not even close. 

I never said they were near Nelson and I stated in an earlier post that they’d need to be elite like Nelson was to be picked in the top 10-20.

 

i wasn’t dating any of these guys stray that level. I was simply saying that RT is worth taking in the top ten when the talent is there. 

 

I fully expect Buffalo to draft defense based on the talent at the top of the class ATM: 

[MrEpsYtown]

49 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The more I evaluate the draft the more I think pick 9 will be a D-line player, which while not a drastic need would be a need (I think the pass rush needs a shot in the arm and the D-line needs more younger players, besides Shaq and Phillips all the other D-line players are older players.) I wouldn't mind at all a RT as I think this philsophy that if you draft a RT at 9 its such a reach if they can't be swung back over to the left side is foolish. RT is a premium position in the modern NFL. A lot of the top pass rushers in the NFL rush against the right side. You need 5 top O-line players and they are all becoming harder to find. So while being able to shift over to the left side is a positive trait it isn't a make or break in my opinion. 

 

I agree that it's  going to be a defensive lineman. 

 

Have you looked at right tackles on rosters around the NFL? It's not pretty. And of all 32 teams there are 2 right tackles who where top ten picks, Johnson and Conklin. And Johnson is really a left tackle playing right. Neither are all pros this year. And there a whole mess of linemen who where reached on and suck. Luke Joeckel, Jonathan Cooper, Warmack etc etc etc. it's just bad drafting. Quentin Nelson elite player. Lane Johnson elite athlete in a crap draft. You simply can't draft these guys if they aren't elite. There's no draft value and you will be passing on elite talents at more important positions. 

 

Left tackles are simply more important becuase they protect the blindside. It's a simple concept, but that's really it. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by MrEpsYtown

[billvernsays]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Both of those are guys I think can play LT though. Lane likely will next year. Conklin in fairness might need to leave Tennessee to do it. 

This is the exact reason why I think we like him over the others. I’m suggesting that he CAN play LT if we need him to, which is why I think McBean will be interested. His versitility. 

[billsfan89]

30 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I agree that it's  going to be a defensive lineman. 

 

Have you looked at right tackles on rosters around the NFL? It's not pretty. And of all 32 teams there are 2 right tackles who where top ten picks, Johnson and Conklin. And Johnson is really a left tackle playing right. Neither are all pros this year. And there a whole mess of linemen who where reached on and suck. Luke Joeckel, Jonathan Cooper, Warmack etc etc etc. it's just bad drafting. Quentin Nelson elite player. Lane Johnson elite athlete in a crap draft. You simply can't draft these guys if they aren't elite. There's no draft value and you will be passing on elite talents at more important positions. 

 

Left tackles are simply more important becuase they protect the blindside. It's a simple concept, but that's really it. 

 

I think an RT is a premium position not that much less valuable than LT in the modern NFL. So if you have an elite RT prospect who might not be great on the left side I think its not a bad pick to secure the RT spot. But I think that the value at RT is not there at pick 9 and unless there is a trade down its probably a D-line player at pick 9. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

2 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The more I evaluate the draft the more I think pick 9 will be a D-line player, which while not a drastic need would be a need (I think the pass rush needs a shot in the arm and the D-line needs more younger players, besides Shaq and Phillips all the other D-line players are older players.) I wouldn't mind at all a RT as I think this philsophy that if you draft a RT at 9 its such a reach if they can't be swung back over to the left side is foolish. RT is a premium position in the modern NFL. A lot of the top pass rushers in the NFL rush against the right side. You need 5 top O-line players and they are all becoming harder to find. So while being able to shift over to the left side is a positive trait it isn't a make or break in my opinion. 

 

I would rate pass rush right up there with OL needs imo, our biggest sack contributor was Jerry Hughes with 7, I wouldn't be opposed to an OT on either side though if that's the route the Bills wanted to go. Interior DL could be beefed up also, I'm not sold on Harrison Phillips, he looked good early on but fell flat again imo as the season wore onI'd be good with one of the stud DT like Oliver, Brown or Williams, I'd even be stoked to land CB Greedy Williams, I think we'd have 2 shutdown corners.

[billsfan89]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

I would rate pass rush right up there with OL needs imo, our biggest sack contributor was Jerry Hughes with 7, I wouldn't be opposed to an OT on either side though if that's the route the Bills wanted to go. Interior DL could be beefed up also, I'm not sold on Harrison Phillips, he looked good early on but fell flat again imo as the season wore onI'd be good with one of the stud DT like Oliver, Brown or Williams, I'd even be stoked to land CB Greedy Williams, I think we'd have 2 shutdown corners.

 

I would really not like Greedy Williams (I think the coaching staff is good at finding good CB's later in the draft as shown by T.Johnson and Levi Wallace, even EJ Gaines was a bit of a find as a throw in player in a trade.) But a young pass rusher with some impact would both fill a need and further lay a foundation for the defense. I think you can find a RT in round 2 and address WR via trade or free agency. 

[GimmeSomeProcess]

7 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I would really not like Greedy Williams (I think the coaching staff is good at finding good CB's later in the draft as shown by T.Johnson and Levi Wallace, even EJ Gaines was a bit of a find as a throw in player in a trade.) But a young pass rusher with some impact would both fill a need and further lay a foundation for the defense. I think you can find a RT in round 2 and address WR via trade or free agency. 

I actually think finding a quality right tackle will be found in free agency and the receiver in the draft. The Bills will get more of an impact receiver in the draft than free agency much cheaper. And a linemen in free agency offers less of a bust rate 

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:

I actually think finding a quality right tackle will be found in free agency and the receiver in the draft. The Bills will get more of an impact receiver in the draft than free agency much cheaper. And a linemen in free agency offers less of a bust rate 

 

The issue for the Bills primarily is that there isn't a great market at RT, TE, and WR in free agency. There are good interior O-line players, corners, and pass rushers which is where I think the primary focus of free agency dollars should go towards. Don't overpay just to get the best of a subpar market. Although I think WR might be worth overpaying for to get at least a solid vet since a 2nd round WR might not have a high end impact. 

[Mat68]

1 hour ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:

I actually think finding a quality right tackle will be found in free agency and the receiver in the draft. The Bills will get more of an impact receiver in the draft than free agency much cheaper. And a linemen in free agency offers less of a bust rate 

I tend to agree.  Spend mostly on Oline in FA.  Elite deep threats rarely reach the open market.  Imo by 9 the elite defenders will be gone.  I understand it's a deep dline class but the 4th or 3rd DT or 4th or 3rd end will not be a tier above the top Wrs.  Who is the biggest impact player?  That's who the pick should be.  If its Cb, DT, DE, WR, OL if they are a significant upgrade is all that matters to me.  If Metcalf or Brown are 4.4 or under the move ahead of the line for me at 9.  A premier deep threat opposite Foster puts defenses in real trouble.  

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The issue for the Bills primarily is that there isn't a great market at RT, TE, and WR in free agency. There are good interior O-line players, corners, and pass rushers which is where I think the primary focus of free agency dollars should go towards. Don't overpay just to get the best of a subpar market. Although I think WR might be worth overpaying for to get at least a solid vet since a 2nd round WR might not have a high end impact. 

Go points.  With the state of the roster even mid tier FA will provide significant upgrades.  Finding the right mid tier FA will be key.  

[GimmeSomeProcess]

2 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The issue for the Bills primarily is that there isn't a great market at RT, TE, and WR in free agency. There are good interior O-line players, corners, and pass rushers which is where I think the primary focus of free agency dollars should go towards. Don't overpay just to get the best of a subpar market. Although I think WR might be worth overpaying for to get at least a solid vet since a 2nd round WR might not have a high end impact. 

I wouldn’t necessarily say that about RT. Trent Brown, Daryl Williams, Bobbie Massie, Juwan James and Donavan Smith are all huge upgrades. 

[njbuff]

I think the Bills RT in 2019 is Darryl Williams.

 

Just my opinion.

[Putin]

23 hours ago, billvernsays said:

Oh my bad. 

 

He’s someone who’s gotten better each year.  He’s different to a Greg Little who’s always seems to leave you wanting him to do a bit more. 

 

He’s got really nimble feel with is why I think he could be a LT in the NFL, but I think he could realistically play either Tackle or Guard position in the Pros which I think may make him very interesting to McBean. 

I’m sorry but with  a 9th overall pick he has to be a plug in and play LT , not maybe or he could and a G we can probably find one in the 2nd or maybe even 3rd round , 

Edited January 5, 2019 by Putin

[MrEpsYtown]

5 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:

I never said they were near Nelson and I stated in an earlier post that they’d need to be elite like Nelson was to be picked in the top 10-20.

 

i wasn’t dating any of these guys stray that level. I was simply saying that RT is worth taking in the top ten when the talent is there. 

 

I fully expect Buffalo to draft defense based on the talent at the top of the class ATM: 

 

Yeah my bad, that comment wasn't meant for you, it just was a general comment for th  board. I am vehemently against drafting guards and right tackles in the top ten and people on the board keep using Nelson as a reason why you should, but they are ignoring the fact that Nelson is an amazing elite can't miss prospect. So apologies if it felt like I was being snarky towards you. 

[GimmeSomeProcess]

9 hours ago, njbuff said:

I think the Bills RT in 2019 is Darryl Williams.

 

Just my opinion.

I do as well. The injury drove down his price a little but will still get paid around 10 million. Similar to Trent Murphy last year

[CaptnCoke11]

10 hours ago, njbuff said:

I think the Bills RT in 2019 is Darryl Williams.

 

Just my opinion.

Who’s the back up going to be cause that dude rarely plays? 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Who’s the back up going to be cause that dude rarely plays? 

 

Williams started 16 games in 2017 which was his first full year as the starter, and he was second team all pro. He hurt his knee and missed the whole season this year. Then you draft guys in the fifth round and such to add guys to the room. You do not use your top ten pick on a right tackle. You still Conor McDermott under contract as well. 

[billvernsays]

Bumping this thread because Taylor is now the trendy pick for us. I said this before it was ? 

[RocCityRoller]

one of my favorites, and if hes a RT at best look at putting him at LG next to Dawkins. Dawk sure looked better with Incognito next to him.

 

Allows Teller/Miller/Ducasse etc fight it out for RG

[Gunsgoodtime]

Seems to be the consensus pick for us as far as media/analyst

[Buffalo86]

I'd rather sign Ja'Wuan James, already knowing that he can play RT in the NFL.

[Pete]

32 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said:

I'd rather sign Ja'Wuan James, already knowing that he can play RT in the NFL.

same here.  Signing James would give us much more flexibility draft day.  I would like to trade down, and pick up a couple 2nd/3rd round picks.  Then draft oline, WR, TE, RB