billsfan_34 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Very Good point. Something is wrong with the guy. He has many of these. Edelman too! Just a plain dirty player trying to injure someone! Karma will strike- both of them will get theirs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I bet Kelso could still put up a pretty good fight against Kiko! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I was a little disappointed in Phillips yesterday saying Kiko is a great guy. Your guys are in this his locker room now. If you don’t have anything mean to say about a dirty opponent then don’t say anything at all! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Notice Kelso's immediate reaction, calling for the benches to clear, and compare that with other recent Bills reactions to this exact same thing, which was mostly nothing. The difference between a guy who played on a team that went to 4 straight Superbowls and dominated the AFC for an era vs. .500 Bills teams I guess? Remember Gronk trying to kill White for example? Don't remember any benches being cleared...even though they should have been. Good to hear this from Kelso! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I LOVE Mark Kelso on the Bill's radio broadcast. So knowledgeable and passionate about the game. We don't have cable, so when we don't go somewhere to watch the game.. I end up listening to the radio broadcast. This call just makes me like him even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, MDH said: I was a little disappointed in Phillips yesterday saying Kiko is a great guy. Your guys are in this his locker room now. If you don’t have anything mean to say about a dirty opponent then don’t say anything at all! ? It was almost required, standing by another NFLPA partner, but I agree it wasn’t accurate. Kiko is dirty as evidenced by his play over a few years. Kid needs to rethink everything. Kyle is evidence you can play with a high motor and wreck less abandon and not be dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I bet Kelso could still put up a pretty good fight against Kiko! Not me. Say what you will about Kiko but he is jacked. Even in his best shape, and with the super big helmet, I don’t think Kelso could take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, zow2 said: At this point is Kiko even much different than Vontaze Burfict ? I mean c'mon, even when Kiko doesn't land a direct hit he seems to give that little extra side business that the fans rarely see. Vontaze is more talented probably. I doubt he misses that torpedo attempt lol. 5 minutes ago, TroutDog said: It was almost required, standing by another NFLPA partner, but I agree it wasn’t accurate. Kiko is dirty as evidenced by his play over a few years. Kid needs to rethink everything. Kyle is evidence you can play with a high motor and wreck less abandon and not be dirty. Players routinely call out dirty players, so I'm not sure what you mean by NFLPA. He is entitled to the same representation, but not a weak response like Philips gave. I really question the team make up when they respond like that. Good teams don't get the mild response like the Bills do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Steroids do that to ya. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: He's a step behind on every play. I can't remember the last time I saw a Bills QB expose and embarrass a player as much as Allen has to Kiko this season. You can actually see his frustration every time Josh gives him the "what's my name" treatment. I am huge and I was always a half step behind quicker players in hoops and totally accidentally trucked a few in my time. That's not to say Kiko wasn't doing any of those three most hi-lited hits on purpose..... Edited December 31, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Did Kiko do something to Kelso’s daughter when he was here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trogdor said: Vontaze is more talented probably. I doubt he misses that torpedo attempt lol. Players routinely call out dirty players, so I'm not sure what you mean by NFLPA. He is entitled to the same representation, but not a weak response like Philips gave. I really question the team make up when they respond like that. Good teams don't get the mild response like the Bills do. People react differently to being part of a union. Some follow blindly and, add in the fact that he played with Kiko, and it’s not too hard to see what transpired. Edited December 31, 2018 by TroutDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 but we will always have this perfect cheap shot to admire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, TroutDog said: It was almost required, standing by another NFLPA partner, but I agree it wasn’t accurate. Kiko is dirty as evidenced by his play over a few years. Kid needs to rethink everything. Kyle is evidence you can play with a high motor and wreck less abandon and not be dirty. I don't understand that point about "standing by another NFLPA partner". 18 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I know it won't be popular here, but ... looking at the slow motion, I'm not seeing any thing egregious about Kiko's hit. Yes, under current rules interpretations it will be flagged. While it's off screen, it appears that he started toward hitting Allen before Allen had clearly gone into a slide. Then he kind of alters his trajectory once it's clear Allen is sliding so that it's just a glancing blow. I'm not so sure what everyone is so agitated about. I imagine it has more to do with Kiko's history than with an objective look at this particular play. He does have a tendency to take cheap shots, but he ain't Burfict level, if only because Kiko himself tends to shy away from the direct high impact collisions that Burfict specialized in (and that will no doubt result in long term damage to Burfict himself) I hear you, but I disagree. I wouldn't agree if Kiko hadn't whipped his leg up and back into Allen's neck and helmet. I don't think that's incidental. These guys are top athletes. They have the body awareness and body control of top gymnasts or they wouldn't make it uninjured into the pros. Also, there's the saying once is an occurence, twice may be a coincidence, three times is a pattern. Luck, Flacco, now Josh. YMMV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 12:34 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't understand that point about "standing by another NFLPA partner". I hear you, but I disagree. I wouldn't agree if Kiko hadn't whipped his leg up and back into Allen's neck and helmet. I don't think that's incidental. These guys are top athletes. They have the body awareness and body control of top gymnasts or they wouldn't make it uninjured into the pros. Also, there's the saying once is an occurence, twice may be a coincidence, three times is a pattern. Luck, Flacco, now Josh. YMMV Absolutely agree with you and further Kiko has both feet planted as Allen has already started sliding and then launches himself low at Allen. None of it is an out of control continuation, it's purposeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Was Allen asked about what he thought of this play? If so, I missed his response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 12:34 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't understand that point about "standing by another NFLPA partner". I hear you, but I disagree. I wouldn't agree if Kiko hadn't whipped his leg up and back into Allen's neck and helmet. I don't think that's incidental. These guys are top athletes. They have the body awareness and body control of top gymnasts or they wouldn't make it uninjured into the pros. Also, there's the saying once is an occurence, twice may be a coincidence, three times is a pattern. Luck, Flacco, now Josh. YMMV He got the Brown's QB when he played for us too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 12:28 PM, krf139 said: Did Kiko do something to Kelso’s daughter when he was here? I never heard him blow up like that before,It was kind of funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said: He got the Brown's QB when he played for us too So he did, which the Browns responded to by taking out EJ's knee on the sideline 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Was Allen asked about what he thought of this play? If so, I missed his response. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/josh-allen-a-lot-of-progress-this-year about 4 minutes in He mostly gave props to Shady (for getting him out of there) and to the OL for "step(ing) up and hav(ing) my back" Said he wants to play with guys like that. About Kiko, said it was "sad to see him leave" (said seriously, but ???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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