Teddy KGB Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 “Right Josh” throws for 105 yards in a 35 point loss “Wrong Josh” runs for 100 yards and throws for 160 in a 3 point win “Right Josh” has 10 td’s 11 int’s and a 2-6 record (two wins vs 49ers) RIP to the Rosen > Allen crowd RIP to the Taylor > Allen crowd 8 2
BillsFan130 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 While right now I would rather Allen over Rosen, it’s still wayyyy to early to judge these young QBs. Everyone was saying Wentz over Goff for 2 years. Not so much anymore. This is not to bash Allen at all. I like him and Im happy he’s the Bills QB. Just saying it’s way too early to be comparing one another. 6 3
Doc Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Actually Good Josh finished with 99 yards rushing because his 2 kneel-downs cost him 2 yards. They should have put Barkley in to kneel-down instead. 4
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 It is very early. I think every quarterback taken in the first round in 2018 will be better than Tyrod though. 4 1
Flip Johnson Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Very early. Rosen, Darnold, and Allen all have fairly weak supporting casts. But Allen is demonstrating much more ability with his feet and much better ball security than the other two. 2
Dadonkadonk Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 2:10 AM, atlbillsfan1975 said: It is very early. I think every quarterback taken in the first round in 2018 will be better than Tyrod though. Expand 53:20 TD:INT ratio will be tough to beat. In 8 games Rosen has 9 TD and 10 INT already. Darnold already has 14 INT in 9 games. They both have a long way to go to be better than TT. Mayfield and Allen so far have protected the football reasonably well. And all of them have worse YPA than TT's career average. But who knows it is early...
Roundybout Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Pump the brakes, my friend. Every rookie QB deserves way more than half a season. I am encouraged by Allen (today was a blast), but I can't anoint him or any of these guys (even Baker!) as franchise QBs until I see more. That's just how I see it. I refuse to declare anyone a bust or "the guy" right away. 2
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 1:58 AM, Teddy KGB said: “Right Josh” throws for 105 yards in a 35 point loss “Wrong Josh” runs for 100 yards and throws for 160 in a 3 point win “Right Josh” has 10 td’s 11 int’s and a 2-6 record (two wins vs 49ers) RIP to the Rosen > Allen crowd RIP to the Taylor > Allen crowd Expand Josh Rosen was supposed to be the most pro ready of this group....I dont see it (I notice Corner is not posting much on Rosen today) Rosen has the better offensive weapons.....and about the same OL 2
The Red King Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 3:50 AM, PittsforDave said: Let’s compare numbers!!! Expand I like numbers. Let's see...how many points did Tyrod put up against JAX in the playoff game? And how many did Allen put up on them today? 2 1 1
Rico Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Stats are for losers, the only thing that matters are wins. Josh got the win today, advantage Josh. 1
PittsforDave Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 3:54 AM, The Red King said: I like numbers. Let's see...how many points did Tyrod put up against JAX in the playoff game? And how many did Allen put up on them today? Expand ? Tyrod ?
Success Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 All of these QBs have been pretty maligned in this era of relentless hot takes. When all is said and done, I think this will be looked back on as the best QB draft in decades. 2
downunderbill Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 3:38 AM, BillsEnthusiast said: Pump the brakes, my friend. Every rookie QB deserves way more than half a season. I am encouraged by Allen (today was a blast), but I can't anoint him or any of these guys (even Baker!) as franchise QBs until I see more. That's just how I see it. I refuse to declare anyone a bust or "the guy" right away. Expand Love Allen but agreed, way to early for any of them.
gobills1212 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Kept the right ones out... Let the wrong ones in.... This thread makes no sense, i dont even know where to begin
Bangarang Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 So when Allen has a bad game, people bang the table saying it’s too soon to judge him. When he has a decent game it’s perfectly okay to come to conclusions?
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 3:13 AM, Dadonkadonk said: 53:20 TD:INT ratio will be tough to beat. In 8 games Rosen has 9 TD and 10 INT already. Darnold already has 14 INT in 9 games. They both have a long way to go to be better than TT. Mayfield and Allen so far have protected the football reasonably well. And all of them have worse YPA than TT's career average. But who knows it is early... Expand Over 4 years, I like our QBs chances to manage 53 TD’s. On 11/26/2018 at 10:27 AM, Bangarang said: So when Allen has a bad game, people bang the table saying it’s too soon to judge him. When he has a decent game it’s perfectly okay to come to conclusions? Expand On 11/26/2018 at 4:09 AM, downunderbill said: Love Allen but agreed, way to early for any of them. Expand On 11/26/2018 at 3:38 AM, BillsEnthusiast said: Pump the brakes, my friend. Every rookie QB deserves way more than half a season. I am encouraged by Allen (today was a blast), but I can't anoint him or any of these guys (even Baker!) as franchise QBs until I see more. That's just how I see it. I refuse to declare anyone a bust or "the guy" right away. Expand On 11/26/2018 at 3:10 AM, Flip Johnson said: Very early. Rosen, Darnold, and Allen all have fairly weak supporting casts. But Allen is demonstrating much more ability with his feet and much better ball security than the other two. Expand On 11/26/2018 at 2:10 AM, atlbillsfan1975 said: It is very early. I think every quarterback taken in the first round in 2018 will be better than Tyrod though. Expand On 11/26/2018 at 2:05 AM, billsfan11 said: While right now I would rather Allen over Rosen, it’s still wayyyy to early to judge these young QBs. Everyone was saying Wentz over Goff for 2 years. Not so much anymore. This is not to bash Allen at all. I like him and Im happy he’s the Bills QB. Just saying it’s way too early to be comparing one another. Expand There you go, I think you missed these quotes from “people.” 1
GunnerBill Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 10:27 AM, Bangarang said: So when Allen has a bad game, people bang the table saying it’s too soon to judge him. When he has a decent game it’s perfectly okay to come to conclusions? Expand Exactly. It's bonkers. Josh played well yesterday. It was probably all things considered his best game for the Bills. But the too early to judge argument still applies. When we can start to get excited is if he begins to stack good performances one on top of the other.
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