ColoradoBills Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, Warcodered said: That works both ways though if Barkley starts more games and shows himself to be a pretty good back-up then he gets more expensive for next year and might even be given an opportunity some where else. Exactly why IMO you want to see IF he is that guy and lock him up now for probably a little less than 2 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Don't they usually do roster moves like that on Tuesday? Just now, wppete said: Not sure thought it was Mondays for cuts ect. There is no particular day to make a roster move. NOVEMBER 11/10 Signed WR Robert Foster from the practice squad and released LB Ramon Humber. 11/07 Signed WR Cam Phillips and CB Xavier Coleman to the practice squad. Released WR Hunter Sharp from the practice squad. 11/06 Signed CB Levi Wallace from the practice squad and released CB Phillip Gaines. 11/05 Claimed WR Isaiah McKenzie off waivers from Denver and released WR Cam Phillips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbills Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 "Still confident in Nate" tells me he is likely going to stay and get molded into the backup, there's just no way you keep DA with him being as old as he is and it's a toss up as to whether or not they keep Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 This administration and HC are on a mission to bring a Championship to Buffalo as quickly as possible, no matter what some in the local media or lunkhead Monday morning QB's think. The politically smart thing for McDermott to do is start Barkley against Jacksonville. However, starting Barkley does not give Allen the reps he needs, and delays his development. Kudos to McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Well duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Comebackkid said: I think that Barkley makes Derek Anderson expendable. I get rid of DA and Peterman and keep Logan Thomas as an emergency backup 9 points or not it's not stupid because of the fact that Josh is the future. Better to get experience in this year when it doesn't matter as much as next year This for some reason is what I can see. We continue on with Allen and Barkley. Typically we only carry 2 QBs. I think it's a real chance they move Anderson to IR. He can still tutor Allen, not occupy a roster spot and not have to worry about being forced to play again. Peterman will be cut. No reason to add to PS. No team is giving him a spot on a 53 man roster. At WORST someone like Gruden signs him to a PS, which we can grab him from if needed due to another round of QB injury. More likely he will be on his couch waiting to,see,if we need him back for a game or 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, paulbills said: "Still confident in Nate" tells me he is likely going to stay and get molded into the backup, there's just no way you keep DA with him being as old as he is and it's a toss up as to whether or not they keep Barkley. Really.. they wont keep Barkley after yesterday's performance? McD has made statements like this previously only to have a change of heart a few days later.. Lets just wait and see how this plays out over the next week or so... Maybe Anderson has told them he has retired again.. Even then Nate probably doesn't see the end of the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Allen is not going to be declared "fully healthy" for Jax IMO. He may be healthy enough to back up Barkley. He will be healthy for sure by week 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I do not think Barkley is the future QB for the team. That is Josh Allen's job for the next 2 years minimum. However I can make an argument for starting Barkley for at least 1 more game. If the Bills want him as a backup for longer than this year extending his contract should be done sooner than later. Giving Josh another week to get to 100% is OK with me. Once JA starts again he plays out the season sans injury. Giving Barkley 1 more game for a decision on a 2 year backup contract is not ridiculous. Keep Anderson for the rest of the year as a old vet. He probably won't be re-signed for next year making the Barkley decision even greater. Cut Peterman this week! Use his roster spot to sign a PS WR player from another team and see is you can find a gem. Just to throw out some PS players could be: 1. Dylan Cantrell - LAC PS 2. Andre Patton - LAC PS 3. Gehrig Dieter - KC PS I really think Allen needs every game he can get. Now that the pieces around him are starting to look competent I want to see what he can do with six games. Barkley already showed me enough to be considered our backup for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: This for some reason is what I can see. We continue on with Allen and Barkley. Typically we only carry 2 QBs. I think it's a real chance they move Anderson to IR. He can still tutor Allen, not occupy a roster spot and not have to worry about being forced to play again. Peterman will be cut. No reason to add to PS. No team is giving him a spot on a 53 man roster. At WORST someone like Gruden signs him to a PS, which we can grab him from if needed due to another round of QB injury. More likely he will be on his couch waiting to,see,if we need him back for a game or 2. Interesting idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Casey D said: Allen is not going to be declared "fully healthy" for Jax IMO. He may be healthy enough to back up Barkley. He will be healthy for sure by week 14. You think it's believable that Allen went from all but being the starter yesterday to needing more than two more weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The real question is whether Barkley tells them to go *&^^ themselves, and uses yesterday's performance as a springboard for a Contract somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, paulbills said: "Still confident in Nate" tells me he is likely going to stay and get molded into the backup, there's just no way you keep DA with him being as old as he is and it's a toss up as to whether or not they keep Barkley. He was just saying that because he is not going to bash a player publicly. He also wouldn’t commit to keeping 4 QBs. As soon as Allen or DA are cleared Peterman will be released imo. I think starting Barkley over him spoke volumes in his confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: The real question is whether Barkley tells them to go *&^^ themselves, and uses yesterday's performance as a springboard for a Contract somewhere else. I would play Barkley Week 17 and see if he can play well again... If he can sign him as the backup next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I would play Barkley Week 17 and see if he can play well again... If he can sign him as the backup next year... I guess I'd wonder why/if the Jets wouldn't call him up this afternoon. McCown looked horrible and the Jets have their own injured first round rookie...and Darnold went to USC, so he has that in common with Barkley. And if you're Barkley, would you rather play in New York City or Buffalo NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, SoCal Deek said: I guess I'd wonder why/if the Jets wouldn't call him up this afternoon. McCown looked horrible and the Jets have their own injured first round rookie...and Darnold went to USC, so he has that in common with Barkley. And if you're Barkley, would you rather play in New York City or Buffalo NY? Isnt he signed with the Bills the rest of the year? Dont think the Jets can approach him until he is off contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, billspro said: I really think Allen needs every game he can get. Now that the pieces around him are starting to look competent I want to see what he can do with six games. Barkley already showed me enough to be considered our backup for next year. I have no problem with starting JA the rest of the way. My only input was about the Bills finding a reasonable backup that can be a companion for JA for the next couple of years. This craziness with AJM, Peterman, Anderson and now Barkley cannot be good for JA's stability. OBD screwed this up and they should put in the effort to fix it for Josh Allen's sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, JoeF said: Does anyone who wants to continue to play Barkley if Josh is healthy, honestly believe that Barkley is the future of this team? I understand the need for immediate gratification and winning now, but that's not what this year is about. Disagree all you want with the strategy and the vision, but starting Matt Barkley if Josh is healthy would be crazy. By sitting Josh, the Bills would go into the offseason with a high draft pick and not knowing whether QB was a need or not. I would rather know a bit more. Six live games of reps is a lot of evaluation.... If Josh shows some critical flaws these last 6 weeks, it's not that terrible to draft competition with a high pick. Josh is on a Rookie deal -- if he plays for the Bills in 2019 his cap hit is about $6.8 million to cut him before 2020. Josh was the least polished, least experienced QB of the top 5 (including Lamar Jackson) in the draft. He needs reps. For the upteenth millionth time,.... this season is about assessing Josh Allen, not about winning games, particularly at 3-7. There are valid arguments for starting Barkley against the Jags. First, after his over the top performance against the Jets, I will be tough for Allen to come in and perform at the same level as Barkley after four weeks of inactivity. I may be better to let Barkley start, and if we build a comfortable lead, let Allen come into a non pressure situation and start to shake off the rust. another reason to start Barkley is it would give the team a chance to go back to their original desire to have Allen learn from the sidelines for a year. I am not saying I am in favor of this, but these are to valid arguments for starting Barkley in the next game. This conversation is a non issue since McDermott already announced Allen will be the starter if he is healthy. As for your first question, I do not believe many on this board view Barkley as our future franchise qb. I do hope that he fills the position as the veteran backup. He was a breath of fresh air on Sunday. That was fun to watch. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Good. Important for Allen to continue to get reps and develop so he can be in better position to make a jump next year. Barkley looks like he should be the veteran backup on this team instead of Anderson. 100%... wonder why he’s never caught on, you know beyond the ‘eyeball test’ & ‘he sux’ rhetoric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 100%... wonder why he’s never caught on, you know beyond the ‘eyeball test’ & ‘he sux’ rhetoric In doing cursory research to try to answer your question I stumbled upon this gem. Man I love Wikipedia sometimes! And Wikipedia has already corrected it... Edited November 12, 2018 by BuffaloHokie13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As he should; experience trumps everything else if healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Juice_32 said: My guess is they'll cut Peterman and then put him on the PS. Allen will be the starter and Barkley the backup. Anderson will be the 3 and inactive on game day. No sense in the practice squad. The Bills would have to let someone go to make room. Just time to cut the cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: You think it's believable that Allen went from all but being the starter yesterday to needing more than two more weeks? Not really. but that does not mean they will not say they want him at 105% before sending him back out there. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Wo-Bah said: "I'm still confident in Nate"???? WTF. Confident in what? What does McD see in him as a QB??? Jeesh. Confident that he will suck and throw more pick 6s so he can clap on the sidelines some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I don't think today's comments by McDermott were remotely unexpected, and I also don't think they mean Allen will start. Until they start practicing for the Jags game and Allen is taking all the 1st team reps and is no longer listed as "limited," McDermott's out remains Allen's injury. I would like to see Allen starting for the last 6 weeks. But what's great now is that I'm not utterly disgusted by the alternative option. The UCL is a tricky injury. It's not common for QBs. And when he got injured and got his 2nd opinion on it, the Doctor didn't definitively say Allen wouldn't need what ultimately amounts to Tommy John's surgery. I think if we see Allen against the Jags, it's because he's 100% healthy and doesn't risk making his UCL injury worse. I thought for sure Allen would start yesterday and was shocked when Barkley was named the starter instead and Allen was deactivated. That says Allen's obviously not 100%... and maybe not that close to 100% given the appearance of naming a guy who just signed with your team 10 days before as your starting QB. Luckily that worked out. I don't know why people put any credence in anything McDermott says. He's not a straight shooter about a lot of things. Actions speak louder than words, and the real answer comes when we start practicing for the Jags. Anyone know when that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) I don’t necessarily agree with this decision. I can understand getting Allen more reps, but I think Barkley deserves another shot against a slightly better at this point team than the Jets. Not to mention I’m quite sure the defense would advocate starting Barkley given his performance with very little time to prepare. As Beane said, they have no plans to tank and while Allen may be the future, it wouldn’t be fair to the defense to accept possibly losing more games for the sake of Allen getting more reps. I think giving Barkley at least the start against the Jags would be ok, and if he stinks up the joint, then give Allen the rest of the season Edited November 12, 2018 by buffalo2218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: In doing cursory research to try to answer your question I stumbled upon this gem. Man I love Wikipedia sometimes! And Wikipedia has already corrected it... Thata a great find tho. Tips non existent hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Of course it's the right thing to do in the long term interest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As long as Allen is healthy, he is the starter. Love that McD did not equivocate on this. Allen is the team's future franchise QB and he should play as much as possible this season - when the Bills are obviously not competing for a playoff spot. No pressure. Yesterday's game showed the staff is trying out a bunch of youngsters: Foster, Teller, Wallace. They might be the future, so might as well see what they can do. Let them make mistakes. Same with Allen. Let him loose. Who cares if he throws some picks? He'll learn. The nucleus of this team going forward is: Milano H. Phillips Tre White T. Johnson Edmunds Dawkins Teller Foster Jones And Allen. Only Dawkins is more than a 2nd year player. Add in a few veterans like Hughes, McCoy, Star, Alexander, and a few wildcards like McKenzie and Wallace...and this team will be vastly improved next year - especially with a couple of keep FA signings and a new draft class. This year, start and play the youngsters. Give Allen reps. The Process is working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 From McDermott's WGR Interview: McDermott on Allen being ruled out vs. NYJ - I would say he was close. The signs started to present themselves that he wouldn't be able to go. McDermott on Allen's injury - No setbacks. Just a natural progression of a player coming back from injury and we knew we had the bye coming up. McDermott - I was around a situation in Philly years ago where AJ Feely came in and won some games for us, but when the starter was back, the starter played. McDermott - Josh is our starter. He'll remain our starter, when healthy. Although I thought Matt did a great job, Josh is the starter. McDermott - When you look at young QBs, you have to take it with a grain of salt. There will be bumps in the road. It's all about Josh's development and experience. McDermott on Allen's last performance vs. Houston - Thought he was playing his best game of the year, made his best throw of the season on the play he was injured. McDermott on having 4 QBs - There's not a whole lot of teams that carry four. Have to try and re-balance the board here as things settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Mike Rodak McDermott: Allen Will Start After Bye If Healthy It appears as if journeyman quarterback Matt Barkley's successful debut as the Buffalo Bills starter will be limited to one outing. "Josh is our starter when healthy, and his development is important for him and for us as we move forward, getting experience," McDermott said. "You've seen a lot of quarterbacks this season play, and it's important that he gets as many reps as he can get in live game action." Allen is 2/3 as a starter, and has missed four games since spraining his right throwing elbow. The first-round draft pick began testing his arm on Nov. 2, and spent all of last week practicing on a limited basis. He wasn't ruled out from playing against the Jets until Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I'm glad McDermott made it clear that Allen was starting if healthy - we don't need to be playing head games with our young QB . I know some folks think this gives McDermoot an out if he wants to go with Barkley but I don't buy that. There is a possibility that Allen regresses on his injury and if he does he shouldn't play. But if he's healthy he will play and McDermott confirmed that today. Letting Peterman go was also the right move and indicates that they're confident Allen will be able to go. As far as Barkley goes, it's important that we may have found a competent back-up. We have to many other needs on offense to be wasting time on securing a back-up QB. But let's be honest here, Barkley's maximum upside is Kyle Orton and that translates to a whole bunch of 7-9 & 8-8 seasons. We've had 20 of these with ONLY ONE playoff appearance to show for it. Allen was an attempt by the organization to break this cycle. It was a risky pick but they did it for Allen's upside. Whether that upside is anywhere near what we think it is can ONLY be determined on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I can't say I'm surprised. This does support what I've been saying which is that wins are secondary this year. They think Allen can be a franchise QB and Barkley can't so regardless of who gives the team a better chance to win they will start the potential franchise QB. I hope the receivers and line can keep it up the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Let the conjecture continue. Next Monday when they practice is when we get the first legitimate clue as to whether Allen or Barkley starts against the Jags. I don't know why everyone doesn't take every single thing McDermott says with a grain of salt. Remember last year after the Saints game when McDermott said "Tyrod's our starter," only to stupidly bench him for the same guy that McDermott today said he was "still confident in" hours before cutting him? Yeah, I like McDermott. But I believe very little of what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Josh Allen (Elbow) Will Start After Bills' Bye Week Buffalo Bills coach Sean McDermott said rookie quarterback Josh Allen will resume the starting role if he is healthy following the bye week. Allen missed the past four games with an elbow injury You forgot the "if healthy" part, which is pretty critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: You forgot the "if healthy" part, which is pretty critical. I didn't forget anything. It's an NFL.com story and it says "if healthy" in the text. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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26CornerBlitz Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Biggest Injury Questions for All 32 teams in Week 11 Buffalo Bills Josh Allen (elbow) healthy and back in the starting lineup when they return from their bye week to host the Jaguars in Week 12. One question will be whether top tight end Charles Clay(hamstring) is able to play after missing last Sunday's win over the Jets. He was listed as week-to-week and did not practice before that game. -- Mike Rodak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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