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18 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Even if we accept this to be true, I think you'll agree there is no chance McBeane select a QB talent with that Top 5 pick.

 

Which defeats the entire point of acquiring said pick.

 

You think a run stuffing stud D lineman translates to wins and losses in the NFL in 2018?


It doesn't.  How about a speedy edge rusher? Nope. 

 

How about our bold move to trade up for Sammy Watkins?  Game changing WR talent!  What did that do for us?

 

We need a QB.  Instead, we are burning a year and relying on Josh Allen.

 

It's gonna be a while before we are good, and when we are, McBeane won't be associated with this team.

 

 

 

 

 

We are not taking a dt with that pick

 

my gut tells me we are going to trade that pick to get more picks on the 1st two rounds

 

and josh Allen was 2 and 2 when he went down with the injury but we do need a solid back up on this roster

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This offense is disgusting. It's much easier to cope with that reality by convincing yourself they are doing it on purpose. 

If it was true, then I have zero faith they will ever build a championship contender. 

Of course, they aren't doing this on purpose. They are just that bad. 

 

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9 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I disagree.

 

They traded for Benjamin and traded up to draft Zay Jones. I think they thought those guys would actually be good receivers considering this regime hand picked them. 

 

They signed Kerley, traded for Coleman, and brought in a bunch of young guys to camp hoping they'd fill out the depth chart. Unfortunately not a single one of those guys was good enough to cut it. Kerley was cut, Coleman was waived, and none of the young guys have done anything. 

 

The offense is bad because the players they've brought in are not as good as the players they insisted they had to replace. 

 

They got rid of the guys they didn't want, and replaced them with worse players. I don't think that was intentional.

 

Unfortunately I do worry about this going into a big offseason and would love bringing in offensive minded staff if dedicating a top 5 pickand bulk offree agency to OL and WR and maybe a young back and probably a TE to support our project at QB. 

 

If great offensive front office talent that is willing to keep roughly the defensive scheme in place is available- would be a possible huge opportunity ala the rams 

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3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Oh man, now stumbled into thoughts of WRs being better than posters were giving credit for. 

 

It’s all good. We all flub takes but maybe chill on the “anyone paying attention knew we wouldn’t be good” angle here?

The take on the wr was just sheer optimism they are in fact terrible

 

i follow things like not being aggressive improving the team and the oc not getting fired those to me are more tell tale of what is happening here

2 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

How many quality free agents are going to want to come to this sh*tshow?

That is the whole point

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45 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

The bills are doing exactly what they are trying to do get a top 5 pick in this next draft

 

i don’t like how bad they look on offense either but the fact is they are trying to avoid overpaying for free agents in the offseason to fix this mess

 

you do that by drafting high because less of a chance to screw it up

 

This season is LOST it was always going to be LOST if you can get your mind wrapped around that it will help with your sanity

 

It does not matter if you lose by 1 or 100 a loss is a loss

 

This team is tanking so it can acquire blue chip talent and not have to pay for it they are going to target specific free agents and draft at the big money positions

 

be patient

 

 

 

 

 

No matter what happens we can count on your excuses and defense of this team's leadership.  You're an unabashed Bills apologist. 

 

The plan was always to field a historically bad offense?  The plan was to get blown out before the half?  The plan all along was to pick top 5 and fill all our holes in free agency WITHOUT overspending?   These plans, if true (hint: they were never the plan), are terrible.

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OP. Just follow the process. Right. Lol. 

 

Keep pulling this excuse out. Fact is, they were anticipating improving in all areas this year, including our record. 

 

This year is a huge disappointment in all aspects and they have jumped the shark on any plan they had this year.

 

Your theory is flat out wrong and here is proof. 

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25156141/buffalo-bills-gm-says-rb-lesean-mccoy-definitely-team-2019-plans

 

 

Some highlight quotes:

 

“...teams that are not doing as well as they hoped”

 

”we’re trying to win here, not only now but in the future”

 

 

Yes, This is the truth. This is not code talk or a smokescreen. 

 

 

 

 

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John you said 10-6. Now you’re saying they are losing on purpose. Remember sticking your finger in everyone’s eye when they questioned the Star signing and WR group?Enlighten us all, how do we find the “they were tanking all along light” this is painful. Save us.

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17 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

How many quality free agents are going to want to come to this sh*tshow?

I think this is valid. McD is becoming a joke by putting NP out there. Why would any players want to play for him?

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25 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

After Khalil Mack was traded, it was reported that one team said they wanted Mack but couldn't let go two first-round picks considering this year's would be a Top 10 pick.

 

Is there any question at all that that team/GM was Buffalo/Beane?

Just great!  Hold the other team to 10 points and do not score any.  That is the mentality of a this regime.

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Just now, Ray Finkel said:

Just great!  Hold the other team to 10 points and do not score any.  That is the mentality of a this regime.

 

Bingo

 

enjoy the ride 

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4 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Just great!  Hold the other team to 10 points and do not score any.  That is the mentality of a this regime.

 

It's a bold strategy, let's see if it works out for them. 

 

LMAO!

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I thought at the beginning of the season the plan was to let Josh sit this season and develop, have Peterman lead a mediocre season and then next year bring in offensive talent and start with Allen.  It turns out Peterman is a disaster and as a result of the offensive negligence our team is a joke.  Wait and see, wait and see...

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I expect the Bills to acquire picks by trading down in next years draft. I also expect them to handle next offseason similar to the way the bears handled this past offseason. Except we won't be acquiring a new HC or Coordinators. Except for McCoy, Jones, Allen and Dawkins expect a HUGE and well deserved turnover on offense. Peterman will probably go to the practice squad once either Allen or Anderson return this season. I also would not be surprised if Anderson was placed on IR if he doesn't clear protocol soon. I hope that Allen returns to the field soon, clearly he is missed on gameday.

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11 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

John you said 10-6. Now you’re saying they are losing on purpose. Remember sticking your finger in everyone’s eye when they questioned the Star signing and WR group?Enlighten us all, how do we find the “they were tanking all along light” this is painful. Save us.

 

Embarrassing incorrect super homer takes are kinda his thing 

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Just now, Ray Finkel said:

Just great!  Hold the other team to 10 points and do not score any.  That is the mentality of a this regime.

 

I don't think that's their intention.

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Couple questions: 

 

1) Has tanking ever worked in the NFL ?

2) Has a team ever tanked the year AFTER drafting their "franchise QB" ?

3) If we're tanking, why did we keep our aging veterans (Mccoy + Hughes) instead of trading them for picks ? 

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2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Embarrassing incorrect super homer takes are kinda his thing 

Bleh. We all make mistakes, homers and the more negative crew. Most folks are accountable for what they say. It is a little bit silly to go from 10-6 to oh ***** never mind they aren’t even trying to win right now. 

 

At one point today the camera took a close up of the Bills oline right after the face mask on a Chicago. It gave the Bills a first down, the lineman looked like he was disappointed with the call because he wanted to be off the field. I’m all about culture and having guys that want to win and not just collect a check but this culture up at OBD is in danger. 

 

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

I disagree but that is ok

not every position needs to be replaced to turn the offense around

Yea, not every position. Just the OL and WR group. 

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You know to constantly defend the moves this team makes year in and year out really takes an amazing lack of football knowledge.    Any plan that involves your team becoming the laughing stock of the league is a pretty messed up plan.     I always found the kool-aid drinkers don't have a clue on what makes a team good, if there is anybody not to listen to, it's them.

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McBeane could declare Bills prima nocta during tomorrow's presser and half of you would say "look its a shame that Beane kicked my dog and drank all my beer after he f@#$ed my wife, but they're following plan."  I'm seriously thinking about starting a cult after seeing how easy it is to get people to buy into plans and Processes. 

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3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

McBeane could declare Bills prima nocta during tomorrow's presser and half of you would say "look its a shame that Beane kicked my dog and drank all my beer after he f@#$ed my wife, but they're following plan."  I'm seriously thinking about starting a cult after seeing how easy it is to get people to buy into plans and Processes. 

Lmao.

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57 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

How many quality free agents are going to want to come to this sh*tshow?

 

Zero point zero

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26 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

I don't think that's their intention.

That is what happens when you neglect the offense.

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