CountDorkula Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He broke a 17 year playoff drought. Thanks Andy Dalton!!!! And has a worse record than awful coach Rex Ryan. And coaches a team who consistently gets blow out by 20 or more points. (roughly 33% of the time) And thinks that running the ball in Buffalo because it is cold is the solution to fix everything. And thought that Nathan Peterman was a viable option for starting QB. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I"m no fan of the media, but they aren't creating the narrative of McBeane being on the hot seat - McBeane is. A historically bad offense and multiple blow out losses is the reason and McBeane owns it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, PIZ said: They don't realize that Bean and McDermott and the Pegulas all expected this to happen. They expected 2017 and 2018 to be bad seasons. Being a playoff team in 2017 was great, but it gave EVERYONE unrealistic expectations for 2018. 2017 and 2018 were always about tearing it down, while adding some key pieces or young players growing (Hyde, Poyer, Allen, Edmunds, Dawkins, Jones) and 2019 was about building it back up. That has always been the plan. McDermott hasn't been preaching about the "PROCESS" for nothing. 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: In your opinion....which doesnt mean much And the fact that they are not making changes to it should tell you something about their overall strategy These posts ignore the point of this thread. This isn't about a how the GM and the HC are building (or not building) the Bills over 2 or 3 or 10 years. It's about whether the HC is an adequate HC. People who claim that this FO and the Pegulas "expected" this level of futility can't be serious. It's impossible to believe this was factored into any plan. As a HC (motivator, game planner, game manager) McD absolutely should be on the hot seat. It's certainly possible that he's just not a good HC. That's really what is being discussed here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I’m glad I don’t get Buffalo media. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I will give them the offseason. With the exception of Allen, the FO pretty much ignored the offense in the offseason. I am curious to see what their plan is this offseason with all the cap room and draft picks we have Remember when the Eagles built through UFA and were called the Dream team. Remember the Redskins building through UFA and constantly failing. Building though UFA does one thing. Bloat contracts for B level players and put you in cap hell. (Which everyone hated the last regime for doing) The Raiders have drat capital, They have 3 first round picks. The Bills have 4 additional 4-7 round picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 McBeane have this coming off-season to right the ship and then the 2019 season to show significant progress. I think it would be hard to regress from this season, but if they do stay the same or regress they are history. Also, if they missed on Josh Allen and don't have a satisfactory backup they are gone (but if that's the case Next season will be awful any way you slice it). Bottom line- by breaking the playoff drought they earned the right to have one sucky season. One mulligan. But we're even after this season and they'd better show significant improvement. starting in Feb 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I think they are doing a great job getting fired themselves. The media is just pointing out that we have the worse offense since 1945 and tied themselves to the biggest bust candidate in the draft in a while. Making the playoffs was the happiest day of my life, but we all know it was a fluke and these guys don’t have a clue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: And has a worse record than awful coach Rex Ryan. Actually he does not. With Rex we were 15-16 .484 Coach McDermott presently is sitting on 11-11 .500 If you count playoffs, then yeah, he's 11-12. .478 Getting the coach fired worked for them with Rex. Why not crank it up again? They need clicks evidently. I think what they're doing this year stinks to high heaven. But I would give them the rest of this year and next. If the win total does not go up by at least 3, they'd probably be out. Edited October 24, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The pressure is on and I can understand that. It's just that now that the drought has ended, there are a lot of people with unrealistic expectations. Yes, the offense sucks, and none of us saw it being this bad. We have to see what the team does during this next off season, that is the key for Beane & McDermott's future. Until then, talks of McDermott being fired is just hot air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He broke a 17 year playoff drought. 18 minutes ago, eanyills said: Yes, in a historically unreplical season where they backed in off another team collapsing. How impressive. Ummmm....got us out of salary cap hell. Have had 2 very successful drafts....hitting on a couple late-round gems. Accumulated 10 draft picks and counting for 2019. Yeah, Beane and McDermott haven’t done anything. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, eanyills said: Yes, in a historically unreplical season where they backed in off another team collapsing. How impressive. That is how that works. For us to get in, other teams have to lose. Works the same for every team in the playoffs, every year. This terrible fan base has run every good thing we have had in the last several out of town because they didn't produce immediate results: Marrone, Woods, Goodwin, Watkins, etc. Maybe a little patience wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. They guy has proven he can win under horrid circumstances. He deserves to build HIS way, regardless of how you feel about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInWilmingtonNC Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Its quite annoying honestly... They are not going anywhere, they have had this plan since the beginning and the Pegula's signed off on it. How anyone could expect them to be good this year with the dead cap is crazy. And yes, they are having more mistakes happen this year, that tends to happen when you get a younger team and have rookies handling the ball more... So we will have to deal with some rookie mistakes, but hopefully in another year or even two years, we will really have a team to be proud of. They are actually doing EXACTLY what many of TBD have said for yearssssss.... Clean house, Get rid of the dead weight, draft a QB in the 1st round, and build through the draft with a splash of FA signings here and there. This is what that "process" looks like people.... Put up with it for now and hopefully it leads us to something great!!! Go BILLS!!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Those two guys really have nothing else to do. McDarnitt, Beane, and the Pegula's have made all the decisions together that have got them to where they are now. To say they are on the hot seat doesn't make any sense. Everyone that knows football predicted that this is how the Bills would be be this year. Can we please just get this season over with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: These posts ignore the point of this thread. This isn't about a how the GM and the HC are building (or not building) the Bills over 2 or 3 or 10 years. It's about whether the HC is an adequate HC. People who claim that this FO and the Pegulas "expected" this level of futility can't be serious. It's impossible to believe this was factored into any plan. As a HC (motivator, game planner, game manager) McD absolutely should be on the hot seat. It's certainly possible that he's just not a good HC. That's really what is being discussed here. You can only do so much with a team that lacks talent on the offensive side of the ball...... Whether it is intentional (because they didnt expect to win this year) or simply mis evaluating talent (which I really dont think they did....sure there are some flops) you cannot deny the fact that there is an offseason coming with a chance to improve big time....and this HC needs to be evaluated on THAT....not in a year where there was no talent on the offensive side of the ball.... They concentrated on defense this year....and for the most part they are playing lights out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Joining the Buffalo Bills: You have 1 year to make 10 years worth of progress. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Actually he does not. With Rex we were 15-16 .484 Coach McDermott presently is sitting on 11-11 .500 If you count playoffs, then yeah, he's 11-12. .478 Getting the coach fired worked for them with Rex. Why not crank it up again? They need clicks evidently. I think what they're doing this year stinks to high heaven. But I would give them the rest of this year and next. If the win total does not go up by at least 3, they'd probably be out. Rex.... inherited very talented team that should have done much better then it did McD....coaching a team with very little offensive talent......and in his first year made the playoffs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Joining the Buffalo Bills: You have 1 year to make 10 years worth of progress. This x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: In your opinion....which doesnt mean much And the fact that they are not making changes to it should tell you something about their overall strategy McDermott's whole philosophy on offense is backwards to every trend in the NFL right now. Have fun trying to keep up with the offenses in the NFL for the next few years.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, BillsInWilmingtonNC said: Clean house, Get rid of the dead weight Lot of "dead weight" starting for quality NFL teams including penciled in SB teams LA and KC. Also last yaer's SB winner and AFC Championship game participant Jax. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 43 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I was watching channel 2 news this morning and Adam Benini and Vic Carrucci were saying that with the way this team is playing that McDermott JUST HAS TO BE on the hot seat. Then they bemoan how bad they played against the Colts and it's just unacceptable for the defense to give up all those points to the 1-5 colts. Maybe they forgot how critical turnovers are (from the offense) to getting blown out. Guess they forgot how we demolished the Vikings at home and that a superior team can get their butts handed to them by a lesser team. What I find sad is these clowns can't see the long game that is going on here and that this offseason is going to be used to finish most of the rebuild that is taking place. McDermott is going nowhere. He is doing a good job on his own. Or have you not watched the product on the field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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