LFC24 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 years ago we had a chance to pick the young offensive minded coach or the conservative defensive minded coach. We had a chance to erase almost 2 decades of mediocrity and not make the same mistake of hiring the same old defensive minded coach who has no idea how to develop a QB or run a offense. Rams took the risk, Pegula played it safe. One coach is running the best team in the NFL and the other is on a downward spiral being blown out every other week with no real plan for the future. Offensive minds like McVay really do not come around that often in this league. He was special and we made a massive mistake not hiring him. Sean McVay would have been the perfect coach to develop Allen into the QB he has the potential to become. Missing out on players in the draft hurts, but making wrong decisions like this cripples a franchise and 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Are you really surprised? When do they ever get it right? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Did McVay want to go to the Rams, with their shiny #1 QB or to the Bills, with Tyrod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, LFC24 said: 2 years ago we had a chance to pick the young offensive minded coach or the conservative defensive minded coach. We had a chance to erase almost 2 decades of mediocrity and not make the same mistake of hiring the same old defensive minded coach who has no idea how to develop a QB or run a offense. Rams took the risk, Pegula played it safe. One coach is running the best team in the NFL and the other is on a downward spiral being blown out every other week with no real plan for the future. Offensive minds like McVay really do not come around that often in this league. He was special and we made a massive mistake not hiring him. Sean McVay would have been the perfect coach to develop Allen into the QB he has the potential to become. Missing out on players in the draft hurts, but making wrong decisions like this cripples a franchise and When did McVay interview with the Bills? 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I am so glad we got another Build the Defense and Run the Ball guy in the Modern Day NFL. 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 For every Sean McVay there are guys like Chip Kelly and Josh McDaniels. I have no idea if McVay would have worked out here but given today’s NFL, I’d rather roll the dice on an offensive minded guy especially if you have a young QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Rico said: When did McVay interview with the Bills? You point ruins the reason for the post! THANKS!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Rico said: When did McVay interview with the Bills? To my knowledge he did not. He may have even put it out through closed channels that there were certain teams that he would not consider which included the Bills. In my mind this happens every time we go through a HC vetting. Sometimes word gets back to the fanbase but more than often it stays behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am so glad we got another Build the Defense and Run the Ball guy in the Modern Day NFL. MaJ - that is still a winning formula in the NFL. It may not be yours but you can still win that way. Seattle and Denver - enough said. I would say the defense needs to be Top 3 and the offense can't turn the ball over. Jax is trying to do it but Bortles is having an awful year. Please don't get me wrong. I wanted Allen. And I think he still looks like any rookie would at this point. In fact better than Goff did in his first season. I too want a modern NFL offense that dinks and dunk and kills the defense with passes before the rush has any chance to get there. Get me a modern NFL OC not a castoff whose last job in college was with one of about only two schools left that still runs a pro-style offense. Bellichick brings in Chip Kelly to steal what works best in college. Chip falls flat because he thinks he can treat NFL players like college kids. It's all about the coach. And Rex and now McD are clueless. Don't let McBeane have another year. They don't deserve it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF4LOU Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I hate to break this to you, but I hear the Bills didn't even know who was mcvay. He wasn't even on their short list for interviews. This is true because local people know wade Phillips son, who worked with and was close with mcvay. That's why Phillips is working for a 30 urd old. His son was friends with him. It's very sad. That said, we also let Linn go to the chargers despite many saying he was an up and Comer. Depressing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: MaJ - that is still a winning formula in the NFL. It may not be yours but you can still win that way. Seattle and Denver - enough said. I would say the defense needs to be Top 3 and the offense can't turn the ball over. Jax is trying to do it but Bortles is having an awful year. Please don't get me wrong. I wanted Allen. And I think he still looks like any rookie would at this point. In fact better than Goff did in his first season. I too want a modern NFL offense that dinks and dunk and kills the defense with passes before the rush has any chance to get there. Get me a modern NFL OC not a castoff whose last job in college was with one of about only two schools left that still runs a pro-style offense. Bellichick brings in Chip Kelly to steal what works best in college. Chip falls flat because he thinks he can treat NFL players like college kids. It's all about the coach. And Rex and now McD are clueless. Don't let McBeane have another year. They don't deserve it. Yes lets build the anomaly that has a razor thin margin of error and even a smaller window of long term success. That is the Run First and play defense model. Edited October 22, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 We should have drafted Brady, too... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) We went the wrong McWay. Also if we had hired McVay we wouldn't have Allen, we would have drafted Mahomes or Watson and I'd be fine with that. Edited October 22, 2018 by BillsRdue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Success said: We should have drafted Brady, too... Nah just Mahomes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFC24 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Did McVay want to go to the Rams, with their shiny #1 QB or to the Bills, with Tyrod? 31 years old he would have went to whatever team paid him the most. If the Bills interviewed him and offered him the job quickly he would have easily taken the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Did we even have a chance at McVay? He was never even an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 please name some great coaches who didn't have a great QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, Circlethewagon8404 said: Did we even have a chance at McVay? He was never even an option Never on their radar. I doubt we were on his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) Terry and Kim. Are you watching tonights game and seeing the QB that Your great coach passed over Edited October 22, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Did McVay want to go to the Rams, with their shiny #1 QB or to the Bills, with Tyrod? Except that Goff hardly looked all that great as a rookie so there was a real question about whether he was a massive bust. Wentz was the only one of the 2016 first round QBs who truly looked promising after his rookie campaign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, SoTier said: Except that Goff hardly looked all that great as a rookie so there was a real question about whether he was a massive bust. Wentz was the only one of the 2016 first round QBs who truly looked promising after his rookie campaign. He still had all the physical gifts and college tape to go #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, papazoid said: please name some great coaches who didn't have a great QB Bill Parcells. Don Shula (pre-Marino). I know, that was a while ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Half this board would have run McVay out of town by now for one reason or another. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Bill Parcells. Don Shula (pre-Marino). I know, that was a while ago... Bill Parcels had Phil Simms who is in the HOF. Edited October 22, 2018 by Watkins90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 You people are pathetic , boo boo we won last year but aren't now so let's just B word , piss and moan about this season and cry until we start all over again. and when that doesn't work you will do it all again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: MaJ - that is still a winning formula in the NFL. It may not be yours but you can still win that way. Seattle and Denver - enough said. I would say the defense needs to be Top 3 and the offense can't turn the ball over. Jax is trying to do it but Bortles is having an awful year. Please don't get me wrong. I wanted Allen. And I think he still looks like any rookie would at this point. In fact better than Goff did in his first season. I too want a modern NFL offense that dinks and dunk and kills the defense with passes before the rush has any chance to get there. Get me a modern NFL OC not a castoff whose last job in college was with one of about only two schools left that still runs a pro-style offense. Bellichick brings in Chip Kelly to steal what works best in college. Chip falls flat because he thinks he can treat NFL players like college kids. It's all about the coach. And Rex and now McD are clueless. Don't let McBeane have another year. They don't deserve it. It's not. You'll get a team that catches the right breaks and makes it work for a season or maybe two -- ie, Denver & Seattle. However, for true sustained success you have to build an offense that can light up the scoreboard. It is the only way to win consistently. I know, I know... it's an odd approach to put your resources into scoring for a game that determines the winner by who has the most points at the end of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Watkins90 said: Bill Parcels had Phil Simms who is in the HOF. I know. But he also won a Super Bowl without him. And a lot of people would not consider Simms “great”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 You can hire a bad offensive minded headcoach too but if you get a good one you have a much better chance of remaining competitive over the long haul. Offense is the harder side of the ball to coach but it also is the side of the ball where you can expect longevity if you can keep the system in place. The Falcons are a cautionary tale.........defensive minded HC........hired Kyle Shanahan.......and have fallen off considerably when Shanahan took his talents to SF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You people are pathetic , boo boo we won last year but aren't now so let's just B word , piss and moan about this season and cry until we start all over again. and when that doesn't work you will do it all again. No this Offense is Pathetic weekly. And well the defense wanted a piece of that patheticness today as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, mannc said: Bill Parcells. Don Shula (pre-Marino). I know, that was a while ago... Bill parcells had Phil Sims first team all pro and drew Bledsoe 4X pro bowler my point is the list is very short and they all had a pro bowl level QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: No this Offense is Pathetic weekly. And well the defense wanted a piece of that patheticness today as well Obviously you can't see they are setting up for next year and the future but keep on whining like spoiled children. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, mannc said: I know. But he also won a Super Bowl without him. And a lot of people would not consider Simms “great”. The dude is in the Hall of Fame. I think its safe to say he is great. Those who don't are idiots. Or, the NFL HOF are idiots. Also, Simms got hurt the year they beat the Bills. So, yeah he won with a back-up, but Simms was a part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: It's not. You'll get a team that catches the right breaks and makes it work for a season or maybe two -- ie, Denver & Seattle. However, for true sustained success you have to build an offense that can light up the scoreboard. It is the only way to win consistently. I know, I know... it's an odd approach to put your resources into scoring for a game that determines the winner by who has the most points at the end of the game. What do you consider winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Obviously you can't see they are setting up for next year and the future but keep on whining like spoiled children. What in their History makes you think that they will get it right. McD OC choices? his WR choices? Handling of the QB? the Ol they thought was good? what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 News to me McVay wanted to be the Bills coach but we rejected him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: The dude is in the Hall of Fame. I think its safe to say he is great. Those who don't are idiots. Or, the NFL HOF are idiots. Also, Simms got hurt the year they beat the Bills. So, yeah he won with a back-up, but Simms was a part of the team. In what universe is Phil Simms in the HOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2018 - $50 mil in Dead Money = Tanking 2019 - $100 mil in cap space = fixes a lot of problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF4LOU Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Terry and Kim. Are you watching tonights game and seeing the QB that Your great coach passed over Terry liked him. Wanted him. Wow, watching him tonight, he's like a seasoned pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, HOF4LOU said: Terry liked him. Wanted him. Wow, watching him tonight, he's like a seasoned pro Then Terry should hold McD accountable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Anthony Lynn wanted to be the Bills HC permanently. Instead, he went West to the Chargers. He coached the Chargers to 9-7 and missed the playoffs last season on tie-breakers, and has the Bolts at 5-2 this season. I guess he wasn't committed enough to "The Process" to suit the Pegulas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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