row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 As I have stated since she lost in 2016, Hillary will get the nod from the Dems in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 23 hours ago, Hedge said: The Koch brothers will not back Trump in 2020...but if I recall correctly they didn't in 2016 either. They definitely won't publicly to help maintain his "anti establishment" persona, but after passing the tax reform bill they'll fund him through back channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hillary will not get the nod! That's the right's wet dream. Kamala Harris gave a powerful speech(would not be well received here and that's ok). I think she makes Warren obsolete. You have to win the black vote in the D primary and Beto and Harris are the only candidates who speak to that audience. The twist is that Harris's white husband could be a political liability. Unfortunate, but true. Not sure Obama would have won with a white wife. It's going to come down to Beto and Harris. Didn't think Harris had that kind of oratory skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: Hillary will not get the nod! That's the right's wet dream. Kamala Harris gave a powerful speech(would not be well received here and that's ok). I think she makes Warren obsolete. You have to win the black vote in the D primary and Beto and Harris are the only candidates who speak to that audience. The twist is that Harris's white husband could be a political liability. Unfortunate, but true. Not sure Obama would have won with a white wife. It's going to come down to Beto and Harris. Didn't think Harris had that kind of oratory skill. You just watch Hillary Death is the only thing that will stop her 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, row_33 said: You just watch Hillary I'm a democratic primary voter who knows many democratic primary voters. Not a single one would even think of voting for Hillary. Just a hunch, but I think I have a better grasp on the left's base than most here. Not meant as an insult, but this is a pretty conservative board and birds of a feather flock together. Don't get me wrong. She's already hinting at running so she hasn't given up the dream. Don't see it as a possibility myself. The left is determined to beat Trump at all costs and I don't think they're gonna take a chance on someone he already beat. JMO. 22 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Trump's best chance of winning is to convince Comey to run as an independent on a lefty platform. Or Bloomberg/Schultz. Nightmare scenario. We would need Kasich to throw his hat in the ring to balance things out. Now THAT would be awesome to watch. Edited January 28, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hillary will get the nod and you will get in line and smooch her behind and call her the queen of heaven all over again not a word of negativity will be said until she loses again, just like 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 A big sign will be on your lawn for Hillary 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm a democratic primary voter who knows many democratic primary voters. Not a single one would even think of voting for Hillary. Just a hunch, but I think I have a better grasp on the left's base than most here. Not meant as an insult, but this is a pretty conservative board and birds of a feather flock together. Don't get me wrong. She's already hinting at running so she hasn't given up the dream. Don't see it as a possibility myself. The left is determined to beat Trump at all costs and I don't think they're gonna take a chance on someone he already beat. JMO. Or Bloomberg/Schultz. Nightmare scenario. We would need Kasich to throw his hat in the ring to balance things out. Now THAT would be awesome to watch. I think her time has passed as well. With the change in the #metoo movement, she does not survive yet another assault on enabling bill, and 4 years down the road the young idealists that thought she was The One have been replaced with new, fresh idealists who have no idea who she is. Kamala Harris is an attractive candidate and likely will go full leftist. I won't watch the speech because I know the shtick, but she has some star power based on the fact that she's young, intelligent and female. Like everyone else though, skeletons tend to come out of the closet, and from all side when you run for prez. Oh, and now that we know there is zero fallout for using intelligence agencies to spy on candidates, Trump has some tools at his disposal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm a democratic primary voter who knows many democratic primary voters. Not a single one would even think of voting for Hillary. Just a hunch, but I think I have a better grasp on the left's base than most here. Not meant as an insult, but this is a pretty conservative board and birds of a feather flock together. Underestimated the buying power of the Clinton Foundation, are you? I wonder what a super delegate will cost this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Hillary will not get the nod! That's the right's wet dream. Kamala Harris gave a powerful speech(would not be well received here and that's ok). I think she makes Warren obsolete. You have to win the black vote in the D primary and Beto and Harris are the only candidates who speak to that audience. The twist is that Harris's white husband could be a political liability. Unfortunate, but true. Not sure Obama would have won with a white wife. It's going to come down to Beto and Harris. Didn't think Harris had that kind of oratory skill. i'm willing to bet Willie Brown thinks she does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: i'm willing to bet Willie Brown thinks she does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 hours ago, row_33 said: Hillary will get the nod and you will get in line and smooch her behind and call her the queen of heaven all over again not a word of negativity will be said until she loses again, just like 2016 That would be Tibs' dream come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: That would be Tibs' dream come true. She should just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 hours ago, row_33 said: You just watch Hillary Death is the only thing that will stop her Hillary has a hold of the notion of being POTUS like a junkyard dog has a hold of a soup bone. For Hillary it is all about timing and it has to piss her off at present that somebody else is getting the media buzz. Also, I believe as do many others that she has dirt on many of her competitors courtesy of her time as First Lady with access to the FBI and is not afraid to leverage it. 11 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm a democratic primary voter who knows many democratic primary voters. Not a single one would even think of voting for Hillary. Just a hunch, but I think I have a better grasp on the left's base than most here. Not meant as an insult, but this is a pretty conservative board and birds of a feather flock together. Don't get me wrong. She's already hinting at running so she hasn't given up the dream. Don't see it as a possibility myself. The left is determined to beat Trump at all costs and I don't think they're gonna take a chance on someone he already beat. JMO. Or Bloomberg/Schultz. Nightmare scenario. We would need Kasich to throw his hat in the ring to balance things out. Now THAT would be awesome to watch. I would bet that Hillary polls very well with many Democrats especially those white females over age 45. Those who would be able to make the largest campaign contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Desperately seeking Hillary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Desperately seeking Hillary She will swamp the boats of all of them no sweat. her fundraising chain is still intact, a thing of wonder Edited January 28, 2019 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Quote POLITICO CaliforniaVerified account @politicoca FollowFollow @politicoca The California senator wrapped her 2020 campaign opener around two broad themes: truth and civility She recently questioned whether someone could be a judge because he's Catholic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: She recently questioned whether someone could be a judge because he's Catholic. . Kamala Harris. Civility. What are two words I'd never expect to see in the same sentence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, row_33 said: She will swamp the boats of all of them no sweat. her fundraising chain is still intact, a thing of wonder I don't think Tibs was joking. He knows Hillary has a newly filled bag of dirty tricks that will lay waste to her competitors. He knows it is there if Hillary wants it and we know that Hillary wants it. The Republicans will have no problem but for the Democrats Hillary will be like a pox released upon the land. Uncle Bernie had better practice his "still don't want to hear about those damn e-mails" spiel. Tibs is just getting ready for the inevitable emotionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 hours ago, row_33 said: Hillary will get the nod and you will get in line and smooch her behind No thank you. I don't care for cottage cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: No thank you. I don't care for cottage cheese. you'll do what she says, and you'll like it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I would bet that Hillary polls very well with many Democrats especially those white females over age 45. I thought those were the ones that did their husband/father/brother bidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, /dev/null said: I thought those were the ones that did their husband/father/brother bidding everything she says is 100% righteous and not available for scrutiny by the MSM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Democratic Presidential Clown Car Update for January 28, 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I think you guys give Hillary far too much credit. She lost to Donald Trump. I know he's popular around here, but he's not exactly a popular President.(I know, I know, polls lie.) She lost to Barack Obama in 2008. Whatever dirty tricks she has don't seem to work. I assume you think Obama was squeaky clean if you think she's gonna spread her dirt on the actual D primary competitors. O'Rourke is the frontrunner. Harris would have the second best odds. The Hillary thing seems like wishful thinking on the part of the right. She has a zero.zero percent chance of getting the nomination. Her time has come and gone. Actually her time had come and gone in 2008. The Dems pulled a McCain by running her in 2016. They won't make that mistake again. I'm not making any predictions on the outcome of the GE. I'm just telling you that Trump's opponent will not be Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, row_33 said: everything she says is 100% righteous and not available for scrutiny by the MSM I just don't agree with this Row. The MSM(CNN, MSNBC) rarely discuss Hillary. I turn on Fox News and it's all Hillary, all the time. She's old news. Time for everyone to move on from that woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Bernie 2020!!! This Land is Your Land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: I just don't agree with this Row. The MSM(CNN, MSNBC) rarely discuss Hillary. I turn on Fox News and it's all Hillary, all the time. She's old news. Time for everyone to move on from that woman. You say that like you have a choice. You don't have a choice. The DNC makes the choice for you. That's why your party has super delegates. To protect their chosen candidate. They have the microphone, and you don't... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, LABillzFan said: You say that like you have a choice. You don't have a choice. The DNC makes the choice for you. That's why your party has super delegates. To protect their chosen candidate. They have the microphone, and you don't... Yeah. The superdelegate system is asinine. Just noting that the Clinton machine appears to be impotent. Couldn't beat a junior Senator in 2008 or a political neophyte in 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Yeah. The superdelegate system is asinine. Just noting that the Clinton machine appears to be impotent. Couldn't beat a junior Senator in 2008 or a political neophyte in 2016. In terms of winning the general election your observation about the Clinton's is apt. But in terms of securing the Democratic Party nomination the Clinton Machine is very potent and that is a large part of the battle. I think that Hillary wields more power behind the curtains than Ted Kennedy ever did being a legacy of JFK. Hillary does not care one iota about her chances. It is all about massaging her ego which is a 24/7 job for those around her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Yeah. The superdelegate system is asinine. Just noting that the Clinton machine appears to be impotent. Couldn't beat a junior Senator in 2008 or a political neophyte in 2016. She wasn't gonna beat a racist black man, and her campaign was too lazy to beat Trump. But none of that matters. The only thing that matters is what the DNC wants. And they want Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: She wasn't gonna beat a racist black man, and her campaign was too lazy to beat Trump. But none of that matters. The only thing that matters is what the DNC wants. And they want Hillary. And they are willing to risk that random chance will land in their favor in terms of the general election. That the 6 months leading up to Nov 2020 will be full of bad economic news and perhaps a foreign policy blunder which will dampen enthusiasm for Trump to the point of derailing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: She wasn't gonna beat a racist black man, and her campaign was too lazy to beat Trump. But none of that matters. The only thing that matters is what the DNC wants. And they want Hillary. The DNC certainly screwed Sanders in 2016 and ensured Hillary's victory/loss. What kinda rigged operation slips questions to a candidate? She deserved to lose. This time around, I think it's the RNC that wants Hillary. Time will tell. If you're correct, Donald Trump has a 100 percent chance of re-election. I don't believe you're correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: The DNC certainly screwed Sanders in 2016 and ensured Hillary's victory/loss. What kinda rigged operation slips questions to a candidate? She deserved to lose. This time around, I think it's the RNC that wants Hillary. Time will tell. If you're correct, Donald Trump has a 100 percent chance of re-election. I don't believe you're correct. what are the odds that Comey temporarily reopens the email investigation ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: what are the odds that Comey temporarily reopens the email investigation ? I don't see a win in that for Hillary so the odds are pretty remote. 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: The DNC certainly screwed Sanders in 2016 and ensured Hillary's victory/loss. What kinda rigged operation slips questions to a candidate? She deserved to lose. This time around, I think it's the RNC that wants Hillary. Time will tell. If you're correct, Donald Trump has a 100 percent chance of re-election. I don't believe you're correct. If Hillary went back to her historical positions on issues such as gay rights then the Republicans would be a better fit but I don't think that changes anything for the RNC in terms of feeling that she is desirable to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I don't see a win in that for Hillary so the odds are pretty remote. If Hillary went back to her historical positions on issues such as gay rights then the Republicans would be a better fit but I don't think that changes anything for the RNC in terms of feeling that she is desirable to them. What I meant was that the RNC would love a Trump/Clinton re-match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: I think you guys give Hillary far too much credit. She lost to Donald Trump. I know he's popular around here, but he's not exactly a popular President.(I know, I know, polls lie.) She lost to Barack Obama in 2008. Whatever dirty tricks she has don't seem to work. I assume you think Obama was squeaky clean if you think she's gonna spread her dirt on the actual D primary competitors. O'Rourke is the frontrunner. Harris would have the second best odds. The Hillary thing seems like wishful thinking on the part of the right. She has a zero.zero percent chance of getting the nomination. Her time has come and gone. Actually her time had come and gone in 2008. The Dems pulled a McCain by running her in 2016. They won't make that mistake again. I'm not making any predictions on the outcome of the GE. I'm just telling you that Trump's opponent will not be Hillary. I wouldn't be so quick to anoint the Hispanic Irishman just yet. He's too 'exhausted' to run right now, and he's just waiting for the people smarter than him to tell him the best time to enter the race. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/25/orourke-2020-decision-months-away-1126571 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I wouldn't be so quick to anoint the Hispanic Irishman just yet. He's too 'exhausted' to run right now, and he's just waiting for the people smarter than him to tell him the best time to enter the race. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/25/orourke-2020-decision-months-away-1126571 "O’Rourke said he is “very happy” in El Paso. If he joins the race, he added, it would be in response to a sense of obligation." Suuure Beto. In other words, "beg me and I'll run." This guy has a massive ego. The kind of ego required to reach the highest office in the land. He's running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: "O’Rourke said he is “very happy” in El Paso. If he joins the race, he added, it would be in response to a sense of obligation." Suuure Beto. In other words, "beg me and I'll run." This guy has a massive ego. The kind of ego required to reach the highest office in the land. He's running. I guess his sense of obligation would come from the knowledge that only he can properly lead us and solve our problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: "O’Rourke said he is “very happy” in El Paso. If he joins the race, he added, it would be in response to a sense of obligation." Suuure Beto. In other words, "beg me and I'll run." This guy has a massive ego. The kind of ego required to reach the highest office in the land. He's running. When you have nutbag women creating batschiitt crazy music videos for you, it's not surprising your ego makes you think you can be president. He should remain a furry until AOC burns out. There's only room for one chucklehead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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