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2 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

When did Acosta work for Florida again? I can't seem to remember when he was a prosecutor for the State of Florida. Surely you can give me the dates he worked for the State of Florida at the time that the State of Florida gave Epstein that plea offer.

 

Again, this is seriously the hill you want to die on?

You can answer your own questions easily https://www.google.com/

 

I don't care if you play dumb, it won't help you. 

 

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Trump probably is in the top 10 of quantity of meaningless public photos or what we call "selfies" seeing as he was a major attender of parties in NYC from 1978 to 2017.

 

he may be top 3 worldwide

 

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2 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

When did Acosta work for Florida again? I can't seem to remember when he was a prosecutor for the State of Florida. Surely you can give me the dates he worked for the State of Florida at the time that the State of Florida gave Epstein that plea offer.

 

Again, this is seriously the hill you want to die on?

Does it matter which particular hill?

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Biden is running away with it so far. You think Biden can beat Epsteins sex buddy Trump? 

 

No.

 

I don't know if he did or didn 't, but last time he admitted sexually assaulting women and got elected.

 

nominating an inspiring candidAte would be a better strategy than depending on this stuff to win.

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27 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

No.

 

I don't know if he did or didn 't, but last time he admitted sexually assaulting women and got elected.

 

nominating an inspiring candidAte would be a better strategy than depending on this stuff to win.

This is even worse. 39 children accused a man of sexually exploiting them and Alex Acosta gave that man a super light way out. Epstein went on to molest more children, Acosta got a position in Trump's cabinet. 

 

 

Thats a big issue. I hope the Dems ram it down Trumps thoat 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

Thats a big issue. I hope the Dems ram it down Trumps thoat 

 

They can't. Because Epstein's deal was cut to help the incoming Secretary of State and newly elected POTUS in 2008.  In other words, what you're projecting onto Trump was actually done by the DNC to protect HRC and Obama. Thems the facts. 

 

And highlighting it will doom the DNC's chances, not improve them.

 

Which is why people are questioning your chosen strategy on this story. It's doing more damage to your partisan heroes than it does to Trump. By miles and miles. 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

This is even worse. 39 children accused a man of sexually exploiting them and Alex Acosta gave that man a super light way out. Epstein went on to molest more children, Acosta got a position in Trump's cabinet. 

 

 

Thats a big issue. I hope the Dems ram it down Trumps thoat 

 

Good luck with that.

 

If you could come up with a video of Trump and teen age girl peeing on a bed, you might have something. 

 

What ever happened to that Russian pee tape?

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

They can't. Because Epstein's deal was cut to help the incoming Secretary of State and newly elected POTUS in 2008.  In other words, what you're projecting onto Trump was actually done by the DNC to protect HRC and Obama. Thems the facts. 

So Trump appointed Acosta for protecting Clinton? Lol, seriously? 

 

Epstein was Trumps buddy, then Acosta got him a sweet deal, and Trump rewarded him. Hmmmm...

Just now, reddogblitz said:

 

Good luck with that.

 

If you could come up with a video of Trump and teen age girl peeing on a bed, you might have something. 

 

What ever happened to that Russian pee tape?

We know Trump appointed Acosta, and why did Acosta resign? 

 

You do agree that what Acosta did was horrible, right? Right? 

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2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

It's how our legal system works. Money talks and BS walks.  Did you miss the OJ trial?

It's not suppose to work that way. Girls got sexually assaulted after Acosta let this monster go. He should have resigned instead of putting his name to such a horrible deal. But he knew he'd be rewarded, and Trump rewarded him. #draintheswamp 

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1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I really wonder at what point posters like @Deranged Rhino are going to acknowledge they were wrong about Biden and that he is, in fact, the most likely Democratic candidate...

 

(and thus, our most likely next President :flirt:)

 

Probably never, because no one gives a ***** about you.

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19 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's not suppose to work that way. Girls got sexually assaulted after Acosta let this monster go. He should have resigned instead of putting his name to such a horrible deal. But he knew he'd be rewarded, and Trump rewarded him. #draintheswamp 

 

A lot of things don't work the way they are supposed to.  Sadly it's the way the world works.

 

Elect Elizabeth I guess.  She want to take the "dark money" out of politics.

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2 hours ago, row_33 said:

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is Obama going to endorse a candidate?

 

sure ain't Joe Biden  :D

 

 

 

Nope.  He wouldn't want his legacy tarnished by a defeat.  I figured he was out of this race because if he wanted to be involved in it, the DNC would have been far far more organized than it has been and not led by a middle manager from his administration.  

 

2020 Dems are on their own.  Nobody wants Clinton and Obama doesn't want any of them.  

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18 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I really wonder at what point posters like @Deranged Rhino are going to acknowledge they were wrong about Biden and that he is, in fact, the most likely Democratic candidate...

 

(and thus, our most likely next President :flirt:)

How did you get by our doorman? Due to an excess of reeetards (and Tiberius's recent battery change) here he was told to not allow any more through the door.

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41 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's not suppose to work that way. Girls got sexually assaulted after Acosta let this monster go. He should have resigned instead of putting his name to such a horrible deal. But he knew he'd be rewarded, and Trump rewarded him. #draintheswamp 

So it’s your theory that Acosta cut a sweetheart deal on Epstein on the hunch that years later some guy named Donald Trump would become President and then Acosta would get a stupid job promotion?  ?

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I really wonder at what point posters like @Deranged Rhino are going to acknowledge they were wrong about Biden and that he is, in fact, the most likely Democratic candidate...

 

(and thus, our most likely next President :flirt:)

 

He's still got zero shot to win. 

 

Zilch. 

 

Even his wife thinks so, otherwise she wouldn't have said what she said today ;) 

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

LOL
 

 

"Every bit as sharp as he was 31 years ago" is not reassuring when it comes to Joe Biden. It's like Tiberius hasn't lost a step or The Dude still respects women as much as he ever has.

 

Maybe an MD here can confirm, but it is my understanding that that a person put under for an operation loses some acuity in direct proportion to the time that they were under. This usually shows up decades down the line.

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2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

How did you get by our doorman? Due to an excess of reeetards (and Tiberius's recent battery change) here he was told to not allow any more through the door.

 

Awww, too cute.

 

Ad hominem is just so precious

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

Added today

    DATES POLLSTER SAMPLE RESULT NET RESULT
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Buttigieg
55%
45%
Trump Buttigieg +9
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Warren
54%
47%
Trump Warren +7
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Harris
52%
49%
Trump Harris +3
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Sanders
55%
45%
Trump Sanders +10
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Biden
55%
45%
Trump Biden +10
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Harris
45%
45%
Trump   EVEN
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Buttigieg
42%
46%
Trump Trump +4
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Warren
46%
47%
Trump Trump +1
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Biden
49%
43%
Trump Biden +6
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Sanders
47%
44%
Trump Sanders +3
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Booker
44%
46%
Trump Trump +2
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Williamson
40%
48%
Trump Trump +8

KEY

A = ADULTS

RV = REGISTERED VOTERS

V = VOTERS

LV = LIKELY VOTERS

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50 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Awww, too cute.

 

Ad hominem is just so precious

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

Added today

    DATES POLLSTER SAMPLE RESULT NET RESULT
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Buttigieg
55%
45%
Trump Buttigieg +9
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Warren
54%
47%
Trump Warren +7
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Harris
52%
49%
Trump Harris +3
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Sanders
55%
45%
Trump Sanders +10
President: general election Colo.
AUG 16-19, 2019
1,000 RV Biden
55%
45%
Trump Biden +10
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Harris
45%
45%
Trump   EVEN
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Buttigieg
42%
46%
Trump Trump +4
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Warren
46%
47%
Trump Trump +1
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Biden
49%
43%
Trump Biden +6
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Sanders
47%
44%
Trump Sanders +3
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Booker
44%
46%
Trump Trump +2
President: general election Nev.
AUG 14-16, 2019
926 RV Williamson
40%
48%
Trump Trump +8

KEY

A = ADULTS

RV = REGISTERED VOTERS

V = VOTERS

LV = LIKELY VOTERS

 

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooos Trump is gonna loooooooose! We should rend our clothing and tear at our hair based on polls! Polls! And polls 14 months out to boot.... not the day before polls when they report pretty close to real numbers so they can say "called it" at the last second after bull#### propaganda push-pull polls they run for 18 months prior.

:rolleyes: <_<

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooos Trump is gonna loooooooose! We should rend our clothing and tear at our hair based on polls! Polls! And polls 14 months out to boot.... not the day before polls when they report pretty close to real numbers so they can say "called it" at the last second after bull#### propaganda push-pull polls they run for 18 months prior.

:rolleyes: <_<

 

 

good answer BG.

 

But I will defer my answer to TP Billsfan about the latest polling to President Hillary Clinton.

 

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooos Trump is gonna loooooooose! We should rend our clothing and tear at our hair based on polls! Polls! And polls 14 months out to boot.... not the day before polls when they report pretty close to real numbers so they can say "called it" at the last second after bull#### propaganda push-pull polls they run for 18 months prior.

:rolleyes: <_<

 

no path to 270, amirite?

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36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooos Trump is gonna loooooooose! We should rend our clothing and tear at our hair based on polls! Polls! And polls 14 months out to boot.... not the day before polls when they report pretty close to real numbers so they can say "called it" at the last second after bull#### propaganda push-pull polls they run for 18 months prior.

:rolleyes: <_<

 

Yes.  Let's instead cry from the mountaintops over here that Biden doesn't stand a chance and Trump is obviously going to be reelected despite the fact that he's NEVER had the majority of the country behind him and largely has a weaker than expected democratic turnout combined with the element of the unknown to thank for his 2016 victory.

 

Let's ignore the sideshow circus that the majority of the country sees his Administration as.

 

 

Yeah, let's ignore everything.  Polls don't matter.  Approval ratings don't matter.  Nothing matters. 

 

The only thing that matters is that "they" are wrong and "we" are right.

 

That last thing is the one thing that Trump has amplified in this country, and unbeknownst to him--and the vast majority of you in this forum, apparently--that's what's likely going to be his downfall.

 

Jesus, I wonder what this place will look like the day after the 2020 election with Biden winning.

 

You guys gonna be here making excuses?  You gonna be consoling yourselves?  Or will it just be crickets over here?

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6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes.  Let's instead cry from the mountaintops over here that Biden doesn't stand a chance and Trump is obviously going to be reelected despite the fact that he's NEVER had the majority of the country behind him and largely has a weaker than expected democratic turnout combined with the element of the unknown to thank for his 2016 victory.

 

Let's ignore the sideshow circus that the majority of the country sees his Administration as.

 

 

Yeah, let's ignore everything.  Polls don't matter.  Approval ratings don't matter.  Nothing matters. 

 

The only thing that matters is that "they" are wrong and "we" are right.

 

That last thing is the one thing that Trump has amplified in this country, and unbeknownst to him--and the vast majority of you in this forum, apparently--that's what's likely going to be his downfall.

 

Jesus, I wonder what this place will look like the day after the 2020 election with Biden winning.

 

You guys gonna be here making excuses?  You gonna be consoling yourselves?  Or will it just be crickets over here?

 

Bill Clinton never had the majority of the country behind him (I thought Bill Clinton was a fantastic president).

Also, since the "not majority" comes from polls, the US will never know just how many people support President Donald J. Trump. ?


 

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5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

What the hell are you even talking about?

 

Clinton was consistently well over 50% in his job approval ratings.

 

Pretty sure she's talking about Clinton getting ~43% of the popular vote in '92 and ~48% in '96.  (Putting a majority of the country against him by the popular vote metric.)

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31 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Except he still won the popular vote.  

 

:rolleyes:

 

He LED the popular vote.

 

But when nearly 3 out of 5 voters chose someone NOT named Clinton, it's a bit of a stretch to brag that he "won" it.

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes.  Let's instead cry from the mountaintops over here that Biden doesn't stand a chance and Trump is obviously going to be reelected despite the fact that he's NEVER had the majority of the country behind him and largely has a weaker than expected democratic turnout combined with the element of the unknown to thank for his 2016 victory.

 

He doesn't need the majority of the country behind him. He just needs the country behind him. And when you win via the electoral college, you win with the country  behind you.

 

Thank God. Can you imagine what a schitthole this country would be if all presidents were chosen based on popular votes from NY and CA? Imagine a WHOLE COUNTRY with homeless people and sky-high taxes and needles on the ground and people wiping their schitt-stained asses on cop cars.

 

Oh, and TYPHUS. Across the country! Hallelujah! :lol:

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes.  Let's instead cry from the mountaintops over here that Biden doesn't stand a chance and Trump is obviously going to be reelected despite the fact that he's NEVER had the majority of the country behind him and largely has a weaker than expected democratic turnout combined with the element of the unknown to thank for his 2016 victory.

 

Let's ignore the sideshow circus that the majority of the country sees his Administration as.

 

 

Yeah, let's ignore everything.  Polls don't matter.  Approval ratings don't matter.  Nothing matters. 

 

The only thing that matters is that "they" are wrong and "we" are right.

 

That last thing is the one thing that Trump has amplified in this country, and unbeknownst to him--and the vast majority of you in this forum, apparently--that's what's likely going to be his downfall.

 

Jesus, I wonder what this place will look like the day after the 2020 election with Biden winning.

 

You guys gonna be here making excuses?  You gonna be consoling yourselves?  Or will it just be crickets over here?

This will really fly well with the electorate.

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes.  Let's instead cry from the mountaintops over here that Biden doesn't stand a chance

 

 

Jesus, I wonder what this place will look like the day after the 2020 election with Biden winning.

 

You guys gonna be here making excuses?  You gonna be consoling yourselves?  Or will it just be crickets over here?

 

 

 

I'll be here..............?

 

Will you be here a few months earlier when someone else becomes the democrat candidate at their convention ?

 

 

 

 

Reminder:

FACT CHECK: Joe Biden is so old he’s not even a baby boomer

 

And to put it in perspective:

 

 

Donald Trump, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton were all born during the same summer. Joe Biden was born four years earlier.

 

He will not be the candidate

 

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