TwistofFate Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 These things are all too familiar for those of us around these boards who have critiqued Allen thus far, and have drawn comparisons from his collegiate days. The Bills made a huge mistake trading up to draft a HUGE project player. They could have drafted Rosen, who is much more of a pure passer and more polished or they could have gotten more aggressive and went after Darnold or Mayfield. PS... We could have taken Mahomes last year as well. If there is one thing I have ZERO trust in from this regime, it's their ability to select Qb talent or develop it. It's been debacle after debacle from the word go. I'll state my opinion again, and happily eat crow if proven wrong, Allen is a mistake and will bust. 2
Jerome007 Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 While I agree with some of his issues and weaknesses mentioned in the article, it's so hard to really evaluate a player based on stats alone. Seriously, his WRs have dropped long passes, TD passes, and this last INT wasn't on him. Now, all QBs have dropped passes but he's had more, and at critical times. His stats would obviously look better. And then you just add a few long passes and 80-120 yards become 200+ yards and it's the same damn QB! Exactly the same guy. Just that a better supporting cast would allow some of those long passes that we all know he can throw. He has made very little dumb mistakes for all his shortcomings. So add experience, quicker reads, good wideouts to throw to and suddenly he's a top tier QB! Maybe not top 5 but way good enough to lead a NFL team.
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 6:03 PM, TwistofFate said: These things are all too familiar for those of us around these boards who have critiqued Allen thus far, and have drawn comparisons from his collegiate days. The Bills made a huge mistake trading up to draft a HUGE project player. They could have drafted Rosen, who is much more of a pure passer and more polished or they could have gotten more aggressive and went after Darnold or Mayfield. PS... We could have taken Mahomes last year as well. If there is one thing I have ZERO trust in from this regime, it's their ability to select Qb talent or develop it. It's been debacle after debacle from the word go. I'll state my opinion again, and happily eat crow if proven wrong, Allen is a mistake and will bust. Expand This regime is 2 fricken years in Jesus where do you ppl come from 3
peterpan Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 6:03 PM, TwistofFate said: These things are all too familiar for those of us around these boards who have critiqued Allen thus far, and have drawn comparisons from his collegiate days. The Bills made a huge mistake trading up to draft a HUGE project player. They could have drafted Rosen, who is much more of a pure passer and more polished or they could have gotten more aggressive and went after Darnold or Mayfield. PS... We could have taken Mahomes last year as well. If there is one thing I have ZERO trust in from this regime, it's their ability to select Qb talent or develop it. It's been debacle after debacle from the word go. I'll state my opinion again, and happily eat crow if proven wrong, Allen is a mistake and will bust. Expand Said I agree. On 10/10/2018 at 6:06 PM, John from Riverside said: This regime is 2 fricken years in Jesus where do you ppl come from Expand Seriously?? Allen alone should be enough. Add in Peterman and McCaron and they are 0 for 3
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 6:20 PM, peterpan said: Said I agree. Seriously?? Allen alone should be enough. Add in Peterman and McCaron and they are 0 for 3 Expand So one season one with a qb that is 5 games in this is a joke right? 1
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 6:23 PM, John from Riverside said: So one season one with a qb that is 5 games in this is a joke right? Expand Pretty ridiculous stuff around here lately. Well...always, really. But it seems extra heavy these days. 1
BananaB Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 This is no surprise, having the supporting cast he has just makes it harder for him.
Mat68 Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 2:08 PM, Chris66 said: Both teams dumped the previous hc to get the most out of them. Expand If the offense doesnt improve he could meet a similar fate.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 4:15 PM, Gugny said: Expand Someone bootlegged a thread??? tsk tsk
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 9:07 PM, Mat68 said: If the offense doesnt improve he could meet a similar fate. Expand How many sticks of dynamite does it take? MCD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE In his first year.....as a first year head coach he took a rebiulding team to the playoffs in his second year....in the middle of a rebiuld.....the team is 2-3 with wins over a supposid Super Bowl contender and the leader of a NFL Division He defense is playing lights out MCD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE 2 1
wppete Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) The Draft Network???? Cmon man! Edited October 10, 2018 by wppete 1
Mat68 Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 9:28 PM, John from Riverside said: How many sticks of dynamite does it take? MCD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE In his first year.....as a first year head coach he took a rebiulding team to the playoffs in his second year....in the middle of a rebiuld.....the team is 2-3 with wins over a supposid Super Bowl contender and the leader of a NFL Division He defense is playing lights out MCD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE Expand In an Offensive league if Allen doesn't show progress and Buffalo flounders down the stretch it would be a possibility. Likely? Probably not but who saw John Fox, Lovie Smith, or Jeff Fisher being blown out for similar performances and outcomes?
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 9:33 PM, Mat68 said: In an Offensive league if Allen doesn't show progress and Buffalo flounders down the stretch it would be a possibility. Likely? Probably not but who saw John Fox, Lovie Smith, or Jeff Fisher being blown out for similar performances and outcomes? Expand McD is literally safe for the next two years......I would bet my house on it
Reed83HOF Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 9:45 PM, John from Riverside said: McD is literally safe for the next two years......I would bet my house on it Expand This team cannot afford to dump another HC or GM this quickly. Marrone, Rex, Whaley, the Polian stuff; in addition to the atrocious Sabres moves, the Pegulas are stuck with these guys for at least next season unless next season is an utter disaster.
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 10:00 PM, Reed83HOF said: This team cannot afford to dump another HC or GM this quickly. Marrone, Rex, Whaley, the Polian stuff; in addition to the atrocious Sabres moves, the Pegulas are stuck with these guys for at least next season unless next season is an utter disaster. Expand Right....and what would anyone (except the punchbowl pissers around here) gives you reason to believe that it would be.... Subpar Offensive line Worst wide receiver group in the league Rookie raw QB Yet through all that 2-3 through the first quarter turn of the season 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 9:33 PM, Mat68 said: In an Offensive league if Allen doesn't show progress and Buffalo flounders down the stretch it would be a possibility. Likely? Probably not but who saw John Fox, Lovie Smith, or Jeff Fisher being blown out for similar performances and outcomes? Expand I get your point and we do need to see improvements as the season progresses. Many greats started 1-13 look at Goff. Not great season 1 and now he’s 5-0 1
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 I think the Illuminati are Patriots fans. They are holding the Bills back
78thealltimegreat Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 1:59 PM, HappyDays said: Don't shoot the messenger. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/10/09/josh-allens-struggles-go-beyond-lackluster-supporting-cast/ Expand Think this guy ate paint chips as a kid
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 10:02 PM, John from Riverside said: Right....and what would anyone (except the punchbowl pissers around here) gives you reason to believe that it would be.... Subpar Offensive line Worst wide receiver group in the league Rookie raw QB Yet through all that 2-3 through the first quarter turn of the season Expand Do you consider the bolded parts feathers in Beane's cap?
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