Mat68 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Look at Goff, look at Trubisky. Both played similar to what Allen has done and have both improved in year 2 with better weapons around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That's my take here. It seems like people are setting up this idea that we're gonna have to wait YEARS before we know what we have with Allen. If we start seeing progress, we're all gonna be happy. That doesn't mean he's gonna light the league on fire. A)He's a rookie. B) The supporting cast is not good. That does not mean we'll have zero clue about Allen if he doesn't show signs of progress. At some point, if it doesn't work, we'll have to look elsewhere. That may be a ways off, but it's not 2025. Its not going to take 3 years. The Bills will know after year 2 at the latest, especially if he’s starting. If there’s not enough improvement it puts McDermott and Beane on the hot seat. They’ll make a move to save their jobs. 35 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Good luck with that Barring some kind of meltdown hes going to be here for years to come. Goff was horrible year one and turned it around. Bradshaw was awful for years. He's a smart guy, the pre snap stuff and knowing where to go with the football is going to get better. Bradshaw is a horrible example. Coaches in the NFL could lose for years and still keep a job. You get 4 years in the NFL, maybe 3. QB’s get less time. Edited October 10, 2018 by GreatComeback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hey he’s 2-2 as the starter, not good but not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Hey he’s 2-2 as the starter, not good but not great. The Bills are 2-2 with him as the starting QB, but that's not what we're talking about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Hey he’s 2-2 as the starter, not good but not great. Wins are not a QB stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Trade.mccoy for foles and hope foles can start for 2-4 years. Allen needs the Rodgers treatment bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) for a reference as to Cast See page 13 the output is not much "worse" than 2016 and 2017 It’s confirmed: Zay Jones is the biggest bust in living memory 2017 Season 2018 5 games player total avg/g player total avg/g Clay 558 34.88 Zay 164 32.80 Shady 448 28.00 KB 103 20.60 Thompson 430 26.88 Ivory 100 20.00 O'Leary 322 20.13 Clay 99 19.80 Zay 316 19.75 Croom 73 14.60 Shady 64 12.80 Edited October 10, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 20 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Keep hanging your hat on he's a rookie and rookies make mistakes. That's true but he's doing simple things really poorly. A better run organization would've tried to put him in a better position. Don’t say that.. Put your rose colored glasses on and say something good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Don’t say that.. Put your rose colored glasses on and say something good I feel bad for the kid. He shouldn't be playing. His weapons aren't good enough to overcome his many deficiencies and we're trusting Brian Daboll and David Culley to turn him into a good QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris66 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 14 hours ago, Mat68 said: Look at Goff, look at Trubisky. Both played similar to what Allen has done and have both improved in year 2 with better weapons around them. Both teams dumped the previous hc to get the most out of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 This just in.... rookie qb josh Allen is struggling and it’s not just his supporting cast. Even Aaron Rodgers didn’t look so hot in his limited rookie action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: This just in.... rookie qb josh Allen is struggling and it’s not just his supporting cast. Even Aaron Rodgers didn’t look so hot in his limited rookie action. or Aichman, or Manning, or ............ And remind me ---- Why did SD let Brees go? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Decent podcast. Essentially they think accuracy is impossible to correct, which doesn’t bode well for Allen. They do mention that Allen may have a lot less reps than his contemporaries, so maybe there is hope, but they don’t seem optimistic. A good point made in the podcast, what QB has ever really improved their accuracy in the league? The only answer they could muster was Aaron Brooks, which again lends itself to Allen being SOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Mental masturbation. Get back to me at this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 56 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/10/09/josh-allens-struggles-go-beyond-lackluster-supporting-cast/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Calidiehard Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Watching that low throw to Benjamin on the crossing route has be thinking that it was Benjamin who was too deep. He runs a crossing route at 18 yards which I would think needs to be at 15 or 20. If its 15 then the ball would have hit him right in the chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The miss to Jones over the middle was vey Taylor like. Allen seemed to rooster and wanted to throw it but maybe thought if he stepped into it the defender would hit his legs?? as that defender was very fast jet speeding into him. Or did not want to throw across his body and have a TO at that point. Hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLBighits Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, Calidiehard said: Watching that low throw to Benjamin on the crossing route has be thinking that it was Benjamin who was too deep. He runs a crossing route at 18 yards which I would think needs to be at 15 or 20. If its 15 then the ball would have hit him right in the chest. Hits him in the chest then hits the ground as Josh was just trying to help him use his hands more.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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