syhuang Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I told you so isn't the issue. All players are assessed weekly at every position. All players are assessed weekly and arguing which rookie is better right now after few games into their career are different. The latter is pointless and is merely for the purpose of "I told you so". Like you said, both are not finished products and both have different development curve. Even player A is better than player B now doesn't mean it'll still be the case once they are developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, syhuang said: All players are assessed weekly and arguing which rookie is better right now after few games into their career are different. The latter is pointless and is merely for the purpose of "I told you so". Like you said, both are not finished products and both have different development curve. Even player A is better than player B now doesn't mean it'll still be the case once they are developed. Well that's your opinion, I guess it's time to shut the board down and never talk about how these guys are doing until maybe 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Well that's your opinion, I guess it's time to shut the board down and never talk about how these guys are doing until maybe 2020. Sure, it's my opinion. Just like you have your opinion, I can also have my opinion. And no, no one can prevent you from going after "I told you so" only few games into their career. But I can also have my opinion that it's pointless and remind you that you agree both are not finished products and both have different development curve, thus, even player A is better than player B now doesn't mean it'll still be the case once they are developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, syhuang said: Sure, it's my opinion. Just like you have your opinion, I can also have my opinion. And no, no one can prevent you from going after "I told you so" only few games into their career. But I can also have my opinion that it's pointless and remind you that you agree both are not finished products and both have different development curve, thus, even player A is better than player B now doesn't mean it'll still be the case once they are developed. I guess you told me so again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I guess you told me so again. Right, I told you it's pointless to argue who is better now again. Do you want me to remind you again that agree both are not finished products and both have different development curve, thus, even player A is better than player B now doesn't mean it'll still be the case once they are developed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Gresham has 3 catches for 46 yards this season. He's not their main receiving TE. How is that a fact? Arizona's OL is far worse and their Receiving corps is just as bad while the Bills' D is vastly superior. Who cares about the defense when talking QB production? What a ridiculous comment. 49 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It is, but there are still attributes that you look for. I personally like the "I don't throw a bunch of pick sixes" attribute. Some people think that attribute is meaningless, and that Peterman and Rosen are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Who cares about the defense when talking QB production? What a ridiculous comment. I personally like the "I don't throw a bunch of pick sixes" attribute. Some people think that attribute is meaningless, and that Peterman and Rosen are awesome. What's ridiculous is your lack of understanding that all units on a team complement each other. You have advocated for bums like Cutler, Manziel, and Trevor Siemian as good QBs. Now sit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What's ridiculous is your lack of understanding that all units on a team complement each other. You have advocated for bums like Cutler, Manziel, and Trevor Siemian as good QBs. Now sit down. Josh Rosen has thrown as many pick sixes as Aaron Rodgers has in his career. LOL. Preach how he is the second-coming more, Twitterbot! Edited October 20, 2018 by BringBackOrton 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Right? Greatest american movie of the past 30 years. Glad I'm not the only one that sees this. Ooooohhhhh he's not. That certain someone is twisted all up. It's just so freakin' obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Josh Rosen has thrown as many pick sixes as Aaron Rodgers has in his career. LOL. Preach how he is the second-coming more, Twitterbot! Ooooooooh! You gonna take that, @26CornerBlitz?? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, WRONG JOSH said: I like Allen. He's big and he jumps over people. Haha... I bet these conversations really bother you. It’s ok, you backed the wrong guy. I did it too. Its ok to admit you’re no qb evaluator. Not many people are. At at least it’s not your job. Not sure why you take it personally but we all have our things. I bet you’re fun when people aren’t talking about how wrong you are. Edited October 20, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Ooooooooh! You gonna take that, @26CornerBlitz?? ?? I really don't care what he has to say. When someone starts threads about Cutler, Manziel about them being good QBs and argues vociferously about them their opinion is nil. The same guy once posted that Trevor Siemian could be the next Joe Montana. His opinion means 0.0 so he can call all of the names he likes because that's all he's got. Edited October 20, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Does 2 pick 6’s in a single game break Petermans record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I think last night's game shows why Arizona tried so hard to trade up for Josh Allen, but we're disappointed when Beane outbid them. Then they had to settle for Rosen. Settling never works out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Does 2 pick 6’s in a single game break Petermans record? Did u copy and paste that question? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Ooooooooh! You gonna take that, @26CornerBlitz?? ?? 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I really don't care what he has to say. When someone starts threads about Cutler, Manziel about them being good QBs and argues vociferously about them their opinion is nil. The same guy once posted that Trevor Siemian could be the next Joe Montana. His opinion means 0.0 so he can call all of the names he likes because that's all he's got. The bot cannot respond to the argument because it cannot find a Mike Florio article that sums up its next "opinion." It cannot find a Twitter "personality and analyst" to steal their ideas. The bot's script is reading "error, error, error, error." The bot's only recourse is to reference TBD topics from 2013 because it's the only thing left in its memory banks. The bot is living proof that we have not yet perfected AI. A machine can still be outwitted. Edited October 20, 2018 by BringBackOrton 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Despite totally crapping his pants last night, Rosen clearly is ahead of Allen (IMO) in terms of the cerebral aspects of the game. Reads the defense better, goes through his progressions better, sees the field better. But we all knew that...didn’t we? What will be Rosen’s downfall, and we saw it on full display last night, is his mental/emotional shortcomings. The guy turns into a toddler in full tantrum mode when things aren’t going his way. But we all also knew this. This is Allen’s strength. He’s mature and emotionally tough. Given both of their circumstances, this is why I feel that the prognosis for success is better for Josh Allen. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) They should have went with Riley Ferguson instead of Rosen Edited October 20, 2018 by mead107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, mead107 said: They should have went with Riley Ferguson in stead of Rosen It's not too late. I heard he's coming to your 518 lunch since he's not busy playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: It's not too late. I heard he's coming to your 518 lunch since he's not busy playing football. He is selling meadcoins for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, mead107 said: He is selling meadcoins for me. Nice of you to get a job for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's not too late. I heard he's coming to your 518 lunch since he's not busy playing football. Don’t invite Josh Rosen. He’d probably scream at the waitress and throw his plate across the room if his pasta was not cooked properly. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Rosen vs Beathard next Sunday get cha popcorn ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Don’t invite Josh Rosen. He’d probably scream at the waitress and throw his plate across the room if his pasta was not cooked properly. Yes of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nice of you to get a job for him. He will make a lot more money and won’t have TBD people criticizing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, mead107 said: He will make a lot more money and won’t have TBD people criticizing him? His mom and dad thank you no doubt. You are a kind and generous soul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Did u copy and paste that question? Ummm. I don’t remember. Did I? shoutbox maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yes of course. Common!! The guy’s an emotional cripple. He makes Ryan Leaf look like Ryan Fitzpatrick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Common!! The guy’s an emotional cripple. He makes Ryan Leaf look like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes of course. Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Yes of course. Thanks for the information. You’re welcome pal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Rosen vs Beathard next Sunday get cha popcorn ready Ooooh which favorite will win? Or will it be a split decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Does 2 pick 6’s in a single game break Petermans record? no, but he set his own. Josh Rosen is the first rookie QB to throw two pick-sixes in the first quarter of a game in NFL history. ROSEN'S FIRST QUARTER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 IN, before the vaccination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Drafting Rosen is the equivalent of going to a restaurant, ordering a garbage plate and literally having the server drop garbage on your table. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Casey D Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 17 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If you have been watching Rosen's games you would have seen him demonstrate more advanced NFL QB skills. They are linked in this thread, but many here haven't bothered to watch because they only posted here since the game yesterday. Typical bad game neative reaction that's prevalent for Bills' games after losses. So your no fact claim is false. Allen has been afforded decent protection in the last few games. Funny point though with good comedy value and zero football relevance. But that's meaningless. He may show"more advanced NFL QB skills" at this early juncture, but his 44 QB rating on Thursday shows that even with those "advance skills" he is not much good at this point. His third grade reading skills compared to Allen's second grade skills tells me nothing about who might win a Pulitzer in 2025. No predictive value at all. If you are saying his floor is a little higher than Allen, it says nothing about the ceiling, which is all that matters in the long run. Look I understand you prefer Rosen to Allen, and I'm sorry you did not get your way. But the rest of this is just rationalizations, though maybe someday you will be able to see McBeane in an unemployment line somewhere and gleefully tell them "I told you so." It will be cathartic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 10 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good information for the Cardinals message boards 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Casey D said: Look I understand you prefer Rosen to Allen, and I'm sorry you did not get your way. But the rest of this is just rationalizations, though maybe someday you will be able to see McBeane in an unemployment line somewhere and gleefully tell them "I told you so." It will be cathartic. but that would be petty and juvenile...oh, I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Rosen vs Beathard next Sunday get cha popcorn ready The Battle for 4th place! FLINT MICHIGAN MEGA BOWL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Byron Leftwich? Good lluck with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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