Doc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Jauron was an incompetent game day coach, and McDermott is infinitely better. However, Jauron was not nearly as ruthless as McDermott has been in getting rid of players to bring in "his guys". It wasn't until 2009 that Jauron succeeded in gutting the team. It's barely been a year and a half since McDermott was hired, and the team is as talentless, perhaps even more so, than Jauron's 2009 roster. I'd say that makes McDermott worse than Jauron. Please. The Bills made the playoffs under McD and didn't under 4 years of Jauron. He never even got to .500. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 It's impressive but not really surprising. This is all they study for basically 20 hours a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I wish John Defilippo was our HC and I like McDermott a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 He seems like a solid Coach. I don't think having a memory of every play in existence helps you call a game, coach a team, or make your defense better. It might help you remember certain tendencies, or help with game planning. At the end of the day the players play though, and you can't really control the outcome that much. McDermotts philosophy is to try to be a leader of men. To get the most out of every player. I hope that daboll can help with some of the game planning on offense, and putting the offense into situations where they can be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: It's impressive but not really surprising. This is all they study for basically 20 hours a day. Seriously? Every play. He's every called. I bet no other coach can do that. He has a very high end eidetic memory. It is only present in between 2%-15% of children, and almost never in adults. He is most likely in the autism spectrum somewhere, which is where it is most common. Stop acting like this is not impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Seriously? Every play. He's every called. I bet no other coach can do that. He has a very high end eidetic memory. It is only present in between 2%-15% of children, and almost never in adults. He is most likely in the autism spectrum somewhere, which is where it is most common. Stop acting like this is not impressive. Good thing he doesn't play then? Footballs a match up game - you can know exactly what they are doing but the players can still win their individual matchups.... go against a tendency... etc. Edited September 13, 2018 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The Bills hired the wrong McCoach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, westside said: The Bills hired the wrong McCoach Did we even interview him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Seriously? Every play. He's every called. I bet no other coach can do that. He has a very high end eidetic memory. It is only present in between 2%-15% of children, and almost never in adults. He is most likely in the autism spectrum somewhere, which is where it is most common. Stop acting like this is not impressive. it can be done, the top chess players know every position and move of their games it's not healthy unless it is honestly a part of your life pursuit and a football coach isn"t even 2 points of value on the 100 point scale of the top minds on the planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: Did we even interview him? To be honest, I don't remember. Knowingthe bills, they probably didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, westside said: To be honest, I don't remember. Knowingthe bills, they probably didn't must have, don't they have to demonstrate diversity with a handful of coaches interviewed? or was that just to hammer the Detroit Lions with? Edited September 13, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, westside said: To be honest, I don't remember. Knowingthe bills, they probably didn't Well... Why would you blame the bills? I'm sure we requested one.. it's unlikely he accepted one though. San Fran/LA were calling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: The people that consistently try to run every single coach out of town within one or two seasons... what's your alternative? Firing and hiring new regimes every season is 100% a surefire way to ensure your team will never be a contender. And I'd bet that if your dream coach was hired and he went out and lost a game you'd be screaming for his dismissal as well. It's constant no-win situations with some of you. don't let them get to you probably 6 of them taking up 95% of the FIRE HIM NOW!! posts just laugh, this regime has a few years unless something dire happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Well... Why would you blame the bills? I'm sure we requested one.. it's unlikely he accepted one though. San Fran/LA were calling That's pretty much what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: don't let them get to you probably 6 of them taking up 95% of the FIRE HIM NOW!! posts just laugh, this regime has a few years unless something dire happens Trying to build from the ground up is going to take some time. They got the QB, they got the MLB, the RCB, even a pair of solid safeties for the next few years. They need to fix the trenches next i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, dneveu said: Trying to build from the ground up is going to take some time. They got the QB, they got the MLB, the RCB, even a pair of solid safeties for the next few years. They need to fix the trenches next i think. This guy seems fine to me, I'm jaded and cynical but he's fine with me, he gets 3-5 unless he acts in a way that requires immediate dismissal Rex I had no time for at all and that was proven right, but we all knew it anyway to begin with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: This guy seems fine to me, I'm jaded and cynical but he's fine with me, he gets 3-5 unless he acts in a way that requires immediate dismissal Rex I had no time for at all and that was proven right, but we all knew it anyway to begin with... Rex was a defense guy who made his defense worse. He seemed to over-coach and over-complicate things. Like he wanted to be McVay and just be the smartest guy out there (hint-he wasnt). Mcdermott may be too "matchup driven" but its not necessarily a wrong philosophy. Battle on every snap, every snaps a new battle, you win by winning your 1x1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, dneveu said: Rex was a defense guy who made his defense worse. He seemed to over-coach and over-complicate things. Like he wanted to be McVay and just be the smartest guy out there (hint-he wasnt). Mcdermott may be too "matchup driven" but its not necessarily a wrong philosophy. Battle on every snap, every snaps a new battle, you win by winning your 1x1s. I had had enough of Rex's gimmick while he was with the Jets, and I didn't think inking a contract with the Bills made him any better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 55 minutes ago, dneveu said: Rex was a defense guy who made his defense worse. Why do you say that? Don't you think that players like Marcel Dareus and Mario Williams should be in pass coverage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 14 hours ago, aristocrat said: I distinctly remember watching him call call a drive Monday night with a ton of Gurley off tackle, and the next series used play action with very similar motion that resulted in a TD. He used an entire drive to set up his passing game. Dude is a genius. Definitely helps having Gurley and that defense to rely on, and Goff continuing to improve on the intermediate routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngjebrey Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 He’s rainman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, mannc said: I can’t agree with this at all. Did you mean to say the opposite? Whoops!!! Yeah, I meant it’s easier to find a good DC. Wade Phillips was on twitter begging for a job. Now, they have a great offensive coach and great DC. 2 hours ago, Doc said: Please. The Bills made the playoffs under McD and didn't under 4 years of Jauron. He never even got to .500. Honestly, if you look back at those rosters, it took amazing coaching to even get to 7 wins. I remember one year our qbs threw more ints than tds and we still won 7 games. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honestly, if you look back at those rosters, it took amazing coaching to even get to 7 wins. I remember one year our qbs threw more ints than tds and we still won 7 games. It will take even more amazing coaching for McDermott to get this year's edition to 4 wins. I think the Bills current roster is as bad as the Bills 2009 roster, which was four years into Jauron's run. As I said, I think McDermott is a good game day coach, but giving him personnel control was stupid when he had no previous HC experience and no experience coaching offense. I'm never in favor of HCs have control over players, even experienced ones, because they tend to have a short-term view whereas good GMs take a longer term view. For example, Belichick has been very successful while having control of the roster but almost all of the success rests on Brady and the revolving door of FA role players that the Pats bring in with regularity. They haven't been very successful at drafting since Scott Pioli left, although somebody in the organization does know how to spot OL talent because they do seem to find good OLers in the draft pretty regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Maybe he has a brother if Dabol doesn't pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Maybe he has a brother if Dabol doesn't pan out too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, row_33 said: too soon I like Dabol just saying it would be cool to have a coach with those abilities Edited September 13, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: Seriously? Every play. He's every called. I bet no other coach can do that. He has a very high end eidetic memory. It is only present in between 2%-15% of children, and almost never in adults. He is most likely in the autism spectrum somewhere, which is where it is most common. Stop acting like this is not impressive. You would be surprised. Obviously if he could recall an entire game that would be unbelievable, but these were key plays in games he coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 And we got a faith based McClappity. Way to go Pegula... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Whoops!!! Yeah, I meant it’s easier to find a good DC. Wade Phillips was on twitter begging for a job. Now, they have a great offensive coach and great DC. that's why I think your premise is half right. It isn't so much with the HC is offense or defensive minded, its finding the guy to run the other side of the ball that can be the key. As you said, McVay did it in LA. Pederson did the same thing in Philly with Schwartz. "Surrounding yourself with good people" doesn't mean getting yes men or people who think like you do. More often than not, its getting people who are more skilled in other areas than your forte. It applies at the GM level too. I really think this org. needs one of the best offensive minds in the area of talent evaluation. Someone with a vision of how an offense is supposed to work and finding the right people for it. Because based on the people they've let go and the people they've brought in...they aren't showing much in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: You would be surprised. Obviously if he could recall an entire game that would be unbelievable, but these were key plays in games he coached. Let me know when they're all doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 16 hours ago, aristocrat said: These are the type of questions Pegula needed to ask HC candidates during interviews. I guarantee they never did. Otherwise McDerp would have answered with “I’ll have to check the tape.” But I’m sure Terry fell in love over “tRuSt tHe PrOcEsS.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Let me know when they're all doing it. Doing what? Have a reporter ask McDermott what happened week 4 @Atlanta. Atlanta had the ball, and 3rd and 9 with 11:04 left in the 3rd. If you watched film of that game you can easily remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Doing what? Have a reporter ask McDermott what happened week 4 @Atlanta. Atlanta had the ball, and 3rd and 9 with 11:04 left in the 3rd. If you watched film of that game you can easily remember. They are pulling random games from 2015 out on him. Stop being a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: They are pulling random games from 2015 out on him. Stop being a hater. I'm not hating. But let him tell what happened when they ran the ball for 1 yard on 2nd and 7. I mean if someone asked me about important bills plays last year I could easily do this if I watched the film for hours. I'm confident most coaches could recall major plays in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I'm not hating. But let him tell what happened when they ran the ball for 1 yard on 2nd and 7. I mean if someone asked me about important bills plays last year I could easily do this if I watched the film for hours. I'm confident most coaches could recall major plays in games. He's recalling plays from 2015. Did you even watch the video? One was just for a freaking first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: He's recalling plays from 2015. Did you even watch the video? One was just for a freaking first down. They were all major plays in games. You obviously don't respect the work that coaches put in if you think he's the only one that can remember details of plays years ago. He even says in HBO clip that this is all that he thinks about. A lot of coaches could do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: They were all major plays in games. You obviously don't respect the work that coaches put in if you think he's the only one that can remember details of plays years ago. He even says in HBO clip that this is all that he thinks about. A lot of coaches could do this. ? Edited September 13, 2018 by SouthNYfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 McD equates everything he likes in a QB to what they can do to a defense. McV equates everything he likes in a QB to what it they can do for his offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 *well acctualy* that’s called eidetic memory not being a savant. Now if you’ll excuse me I have a neck beard to trim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 17 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: McDermott is fine. He’s a dime a dozen head coach. The problem is he’s running the team and it’s clearly showing why a defensive coach shouldn’t make offensive personnel moves. What I like McD is that he understands the team culture is the most consistent thing you can control. Having players buying into a consistent philsophy is something that is very underrated in the NFL. But it is on Beane to put the pieces in place and if McD isn't capable of buying the groceries on offense then Beane has to step in and find the players himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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