Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Just like that crap coach in New England. Lousy coach...if only he was all about that O. There you go! Just make the exception the rule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, BillsVet said: Beane is either the GM, playing the role John Schneider plays in Seattle, or McCoach's errand boy. And it's not the last two options. It doesn't have to be GM telling HC what to do. I get the impression the two are on the same page, which is what you need in a GM-HC relationship. They don't always agree, but it's most certainly not HC giving the GM orders. McDermott basically got Beane hired. Do you see any scenario in which Beane is going to win a disagreement with SM? 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: The thing I think is funny about McVay is he looks like a boy band singer. Got a hot girlfriend too. Looks ?? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Well, that coach was hired 20 years ago. That’s like saying Josh Allen will be good in the nfl because he had a completion % like Farve had in college. But im sure having the greatest qb of all time didn’t help B.B. so if the Bills had one of the greatest qbs ever, I’d be fine with a defensive coach. That still doesn't support the argument the D-minded head coaches won't succeed. What has McVay done exactly? The Rams are LOADED with talent...which is to your point about BB having the goat at QB. My point is that where the coach cut his teeth is not the be all end all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: McDermott is fine. He’s a dime a dozen head coach. The problem is he’s running the team and it’s clearly showing why a defensive coach shouldn’t make offensive personnel moves. You sound like someone who is losing their mind under the stress, each post gets more ludicrous. I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: There you go! Just make the exception the rule! Is it though? Is it automatic that offensive-minded head coaches are more successful? Talent has nothing to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: That still doesn't support the argument the D-minded head coaches won't succeed. What has McVay done exactly? The Rams are LOADED with talent...which is to your point about BB having the goat at QB. My point is that where the coach cut his teeth is not the be all end all. The Rams were 4-12, Gurley was a disaster, and Goff has worse stats than EJ when McVay took over. They became the highest scoring team in the league with him. He’s a very, very good coach. 2 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: You sound like someone who is losing their mind under the stress, each post gets more ludicrous. I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with you. Because if you were in a foxhole with me, I’d kill you first because my foxhole doesn’t allow weakness. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Beane is either the GM, playing the role John Schneider plays in Seattle, or McCoach's errand boy. And it's not the last two options. It doesn't have to be GM telling HC what to do. I get the impression the two are on the same page, which is what you need in a GM-HC relationship. They don't always agree, but it's most certainly not HC giving the GM orders. "The blank pages before any printed content have become a convention of book design because traditional book printing is done on large sheets of paper, about 30 x 40 inches. Each sheet holds 12, 16, or 24 actual pages, which means the book has to contain a multiple of 12, 16, or 24 pages. Usually the book design does not work out to perfectly fill the number of pages needed, so extra blanks are placed just after the front cover and just before the back cover." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The Rams were 4-12, Gurley was a disaster, and Goff has worse stats than EJ when McVay took over. They became the highest scoring team in the league with him. He’s a very, very good coach. Because if you were in a foxhole with me, I’d kill you first because my foxhole doesn’t allow weakness. ? Yes...for one !@#$ing year he was a very, very good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This is why hiring defensive minded coaches as your head coach is so outdated. Lol yep. And leave it to the Bills to hire 3 straight defensive coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The Rams were 4-12, Gurley was a disaster, and Goff has worse stats than EJ when McVay took over. They became the highest scoring team in the league with him. He’s a very, very good coach. Because if you were in a foxhole with me, I’d kill you first because my foxhole doesn’t allow weakness. ? Dude, you are the guy who keeps screaming, "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!," then gagged and tied up by those who have kept their wits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, billsfan11 said: Lol yep. And leave it to the Bills to hire 3 straight defensive coaches It is much harder to find a good DC than a good offensive coach. Your QB is the most important member of your team. You want a guy who has a track record of developing him. If the Bills had Andy Reid or McVay, I feel a million times better about the Allen pick. But sorry, I don’t trust Brian Daboll to develop Allen into his full potential. The only time Daboll has been considered a good coach is when he worked with Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: It is much harder to find a good DC than a good offensive coach. Your QB is the most important member of your team. You want a guy who has a track record of developing him. If the Bills had Andy Reid or McVay, I feel a million times better about the Allen pick. But sorry, I don’t trust Brian Daboll to develop Allen into his full potential. The only time Daboll has been considered a good coach is when he worked with Tom Brady. 100 percent agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Dude, you are the guy who keeps screaming, "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!," then gagged and tied up by those who have kept their wits. Sorry dude. You were already killed as an example for the rest of the troops not to be weak. Good news is your body is providing us food and fire. Thank you for your service. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: That still doesn't support the argument the D-minded head coaches won't succeed. What has McVay done exactly? The Rams are LOADED with talent...which is to your point about BB having the goat at QB. My point is that where the coach cut his teeth is not the be all end all. What was the record of the Rams before McVay showed up? When he shows up were they just magically "loaded with talent"? 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Is it though? Is it automatic that offensive-minded head coaches are more successful? Talent has nothing to do with it? It is not automatic. But picking the one glaring example to the contrary doesn't really support your argument. Also, how have the last 3 NE OC's done as HC's? Maybe BB is n't just a "defensive minded HC"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This is why hiring defensive minded coaches as your head coach is so outdated. in The last SB it was 1 offensive HC andv1 defensive HC. the year before that it was a battle between 2 defensive HCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Yes...for one !@#$ing year he was a very, very good coach. So you're saying he's 1 for 1, batting 1.000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It is much harder to find a good DC than a good offensive coach. Your QB is the most important member of your team. You want a guy who has a track record of developing him. If the Bills had Andy Reid or McVay, I feel a million times better about the Allen pick. But sorry, I don’t trust Brian Daboll to develop Allen into his full potential. The only time Daboll has been considered a good coach is when he worked with Tom Brady. You forgot about Jalen Hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: So you're saying he's 1 for 1, batting 1.000. Yep...just like McDermot. 1 season. 1 playoff appearance. See how easy that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: in The last SB it was 1 offensive HC andv1 defensive HC. the year before that it was a battle between 2 defensive HCs. Let me rephrase that. If you have the greatest qb ever or a very good established qb, a defensive coach is fine. If you are trying to find a qb or develop one, you should go with an offensive coach. This league is all about offense now. 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: You forgot about Jalen Hurts. I’m not sure what you are saying here Red. Hurts regressed under Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 It's an offensive league and those who have the intelligence to introduce radical innovation on the offensive side of the ball have an advantage. The last time we had a team that did that we went to 4 straight Superbowls. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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