RyanC883 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 We will need new players on the O-line. Here is the CBSSports ranking of top college OT's and Guards and Centers. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/offensive-tackles (OT) https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/offensive-guards (OG) https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/centers (C). one guy!! http://walterfootball.com/draft2019C.php (Walter football center) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Wisconsin got a couple of big hoss's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 yeah 1 minute ago, Soda Popinski said: Wisconsin got a couple of big hoss's yeah i have no idea who to watch in college, guess I'll be trying to see if any line-play sticks out, which is incredibly hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 By their rankings, and I know a lot will change, it seems like the “sweet spot” for OT’s will be in the 2nd & 3rd round. Top OT is currently ranked 16th overall with the rest 30’s though 60’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 And when you're done with all of your 'scouting' please turn in your notebook at OBD. I'm sure they'll put it on the top of their stack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: And when you're done with all of your 'scouting' please turn in your notebook at OBD. I'm sure they'll put it on the top of their stack! haha. not if they want to win. ! Just posted this for people wondering who the top ranked OL are, because FA looks very thin. 8 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: By their rankings, and I know a lot will change, it seems like the “sweet spot” for OT’s will be in the 2nd & 3rd round. Top OT is currently ranked 16th overall with the rest 30’s though 60’s. that could be good, because some amazing DL help available in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 13 hours ago, RyanC883 said: We will need new players on the O-line. Here is the CBSSports ranking of top college OT's and Guards and Centers. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/offensive-tackles (OT) https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/offensive-guards (OG) https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/centers (C). one guy!! http://walterfootball.com/draft2019C.php (Walter football center) better add TE and WR as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Get me Ali Marpet and Daryl WillIams in FA and draft Jesse Burkett in the 4th. That's three starters in the offseason to go along with Dion Dawkins and Wyatt Teller who hopefully beats out John Miller this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Just posted this for people wondering who the top ranked OL are, because FA looks very thin. You’d like to think so. But if you read the all the posts and responses on here you’ll see that the average is all over the place in evaluating film from a single Bills game last Sunday. I doubt anyone on here has the eye to pick out a good interior O Lineman from watching a College game. Of course, they’re free to try! Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Unfortunately this team will probably never put a premium on building a o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I get the impression that McD/Beane are happy with the status quo on the line or they would have made some moves by now. It really makes no sense that they haven't made a move considering what that starting O line looked like against the Browns, the Bengals, the Ravens. There really is no excuse why they haven't even attempted to bring someone with better talent in than Vlad the horrible. How many drive killing penalties will it take, how many sacks and will they wait until it's too late and both QB's are in concussion protocol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I get the impression that McD/Beane are happy with the status quo on the line or they would have made some moves by now. It really makes no sense that they haven't made a move considering what that starting O line looked like against the Browns, the Bengals, the Ravens. There really is no excuse why they haven't even attempted to bring someone with better talent in than Vlad the horrible. How many drive killing penalties will it take, how many sacks and will they wait until it's too late and both QB's are in concussion protocol? Really, really well said. Here! Here! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I think at a MINIMUM they have to activate Teller this week. Newhouse got his chance, and he was horrible. Nothing new there. Give Teller a shot to step in and do something, we know he cannot be worse than Vlad. Hell a traffic cone is about as good as Vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 McBeane was so quick to get rid of our talented players that were holdovers from the Ryan regime but they're fine with John Miller and Vlad Ducasse lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: McBeane was so quick to get rid of our talented players that were holdovers from the Ryan regime but they're fine with John Miller and Vlad Ducasse lol When you think about it McD drafted Dion Dawkins to replace Mills at RT and once Glenn went out Dawkins replaced him at LT admirably. Now going into 2018 they knew that Mills was bad so why not make another move to replace him again? There was the draft and free agency. Okay, so money is tight this year. Be freaking creative and sign some talent to protect that QB you gave up so much to get! I honestly don't get the thinking here...it's like Doug Whaley with no veteran QB on the roster to help these young QBs and allowing them to play behind one of the very worst offensive lines I've seen in Buffalo. 20 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: Unfortunately this team will probably never put a premium on building a o-line. This! It's so very difficult for me to comprehend not building a top offensive line to protect that shiny new toy at QB, or to build it to have a strong run game to help out the defense. I just don't get it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, Nihilarian said: When you think about it McD drafted Dion Dawkins to replace Mills at RT and once Glenn went out Dawkins replaced him at LT admirably. Now going into 2018 they knew that Mills was bad so why not make another move to replace him again? There was the draft and free agency. Okay, so money is tight this year. Be freaking creative and sign some talent to protect that QB you gave up so much to get! I honestly don't get the thinking here...it's like Doug Whaley with no veteran QB on the roster to help these young QBs and allowing them to play behind one of the very worst offensive lines I've seen in Buffalo. This! It's so very difficult for me to comprehend not building a top offensive line to protect that shiny new toy at QB, or to build it to have a strong run game to help out the defense. I just don't get it! Mills is probably our best olineman right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Nick Bosa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: Mills is probably our best olineman right now. Dawkins at LT is by far. Mills still stinks and we would be able to see that more clearly if the middle of the line wasn't so weak. Ducasse, Groy, Miller all suck just as bad. The thing is the quickest path is a straight line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Dawkins at LT is by far. Mills still stinks and we would be able to see that more clearly if the middle of the line wasn't so weak. Ducasse, Groy, Miller all suck just as bad. The thing is the quickest path is a straight line. Dawkins I think may be the best lineman, but his showing was no better than the others Sunday. And he cost us a stupid penalty later in the game. This line needs a complete rebuild in 2019 Dawkins is the only guy I would bring back. But right now, Mills may be the most consistent lineman we have. Dawkins is/will be better. Just not at the moment. Just pray Bosa doesn't play this weekend. If he plays, we might as well just run wildcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: Dawkins I think may be the best lineman, but his showing was no better than the others Sunday. And he cost us a stupid penalty later in the game. This line needs a complete rebuild in 2019 Dawkins is the only guy I would bring back. But right now, Mills may be the most consistent lineman we have. Dawkins is/will be better. Just not at the moment. Just pray Bosa doesn't play this weekend. If he plays, we might as well just run wildcat. Believe it or not, some believe Ducasse had the best game of all the linemen despite the two penalties. Both tackles played decently and the real liabilities were at OC and RG as both Miller and Groy struggled badly. Wait until Mills has to face a really good DE like Bosa or Mack as he will show how bad he really is. You're right though, as I would also replace every player on that line save Dawkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 they should hire coach Joe Rudolph from Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Believe it or not, some believe Ducasse had the best game of all the linemen despite the two penalties. Both tackles played decently and the real liabilities were at OC and RG as both Miller and Groy struggled badly. Wait until Mills has to face a really good DE like Bosa or Mack as he will show how bad he really is. You're right though, as I would also replace every player on that line save Dawkins. Mills is terrible. I never meant to say I thought otherwise, I just meant to say of all the terrible olinemen we have he was the least terrible. He was the worst olineman on the team last year with Vlad right behind him. That's how bad our line is at this point, we're debating who is worse, Vlad or Mills. This line is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: better add TE and WR as well. Keep an eye on N'Keal Harry, WR, ASU. 6'4" 220. Explosive. Tough. Can catch. Like a taller Anquan Boldin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 17 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Keep an eye on N'Keal Harry, WR, ASU. 6'4" 220. Explosive. Tough. Can catch. Like a taller Anquan Boldin. I also like J.J. Arcega-Whiteside 6'2" 222 Stanford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Nihilarian said: When you think about it McD drafted Dion Dawkins to replace Mills at RT and once Glenn went out Dawkins replaced him at LT admirably. Now going into 2018 they knew that Mills was bad so why not make another move to replace him again? There was the draft and free agency. Okay, so money is tight this year. Be freaking creative and sign some talent to protect that QB you gave up so much to get! I honestly don't get the thinking here...it's like Doug Whaley with no veteran QB on the roster to help these young QBs and allowing them to play behind one of the very worst offensive lines I've seen in Buffalo. This! It's so very difficult for me to comprehend not building a top offensive line to protect that shiny new toy at QB, or to build it to have a strong run game to help out the defense. I just don't get it! Dawkins took LT reps all summer during his rookie year McDermott never tried to put him on the right side with the first team it seems like Glenn being shipped was always part of the plan and the injury was the opportunity to do it Edited September 13, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 18 hours ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: Unfortunately this team will probably never put a premium on building a o-line. might as well forget about being good then. a great line covers a multitude of sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Dawkins took LT reps all summer during his rookie year McDermott never tried to put him on the right side with the first team it seems like Glenn being shipped was always part of the plan and the injury was the opportunity to do it Dawkins was listed as the second best interior lineman (guard) in the 2017 draft. Mike Mayock and ESPN also had him listed as a guard. Funny thing is from the start of training camp notes the team had Dawkins rolling with the two's at RT and Mills stayed with the ones at RT. Seantrel Henderson was backing up Glenn at LT. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/7/27/16053704/2017-buffalo-bills-training-camp-recap-day-1-tyrod-taylor-sammy-watkins-andre-holmes Then later on in camp after Glenn injured his foot, "At this point, Glenn's foot has been an issue for months. Without him, the Bills would be down to rookie Dion Dawkins at left tackle. He has spent most of camp working at right tackle after spending the spring working at left tackle. While the Bills are hopeful that Glenn can return for Week 1, that's not a guarantee." https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/08/cordy_glenn_injury_buffalo_bills_ot_suffers_another_setback_with_foot_gets_injec.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Nihilarian said: Dawkins was listed as the second best interior lineman (guard) in the 2017 draft. Mike Mayock and ESPN also had him listed as a guard. Funny thing is from the start of training camp notes the team had Dawkins rolling with the two's at RT and Mills stayed with the ones at RT. Seantrel Henderson was backing up Glenn at LT. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/7/27/16053704/2017-buffalo-bills-training-camp-recap-day-1-tyrod-taylor-sammy-watkins-andre-holmes Then later on in camp after Glenn injured his foot, "At this point, Glenn's foot has been an issue for months. Without him, the Bills would be down to rookie Dion Dawkins at left tackle. He has spent most of camp working at right tackle after spending the spring working at left tackle. While the Bills are hopeful that Glenn can return for Week 1, that's not a guarantee." https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/08/cordy_glenn_injury_buffalo_bills_ot_suffers_another_setback_with_foot_gets_injec.html What I meant to say was Dawkins never got 1st team reps all camp at RT. And he was at LT during the spring the whole time you think if they wanted him as a starting RT they would have never put him in the left at all and let him learn the right from day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I would personally love to see some big, naturally strong farm boys with mobility. Guys with German last names who play in the Big Ten or places like Nebraska and Oklahoma. They seem to make the best OL men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Appreciate the effort. But man you have to be a diehard to scout o linemen. So boring. But respect to those that do! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/12/2018 at 9:28 AM, LeGOATski said: Keep an eye on N'Keal Harry, WR, ASU. 6'4" 220. Explosive. Tough. Can catch. Like a taller Anquan Boldin. Thanks for bringing him to our/my attension, sounds exactly like what we need. I'll keep an eye out for him. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 2:38 PM, Soda Popinski said: Wisconsin got a couple of big hoss's Wisconsin,Iowa, Notre Dame linemen are good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/12/2018 at 8:54 AM, MrEpsYtown said: Nick Bosa aha. he could likely play both ways!!! I'm def taking Bosa if he is there. O-line likely in 2nd and 3rd. As another poster mentioned, why get a QB then not protect him. It's like buying a new shiny car and not maintaining it. Eventually you'll ruin your investment/spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Until I don't have a reason to watch the QB's, I'll start with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 10:46 AM, The_Dude said: Until I don't have a reason to watch the QB's, I'll start with them. On 9/14/2018 at 10:46 AM, The_Dude said: Until I don't have a reason to watch the QB's, I'll start with them. def watch the QB's also. But this list allows you to go, "oh, good QB and good OL in the same game." See if any O-line play gets called-out by the announcers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Start from the middle out: It's way early, but Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin, Darryl Williams C/G Mississippi State, and later round Sean Krepsz, C/G, Nevada. I want a Hull, E. Wood, Nick Mangold type who is here for ten years to provide stability and continuity for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 With the depth expected on both lines this draft, I really hope we’d trade back. I’d gladly take 3 solid starters over a Bosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 OL, WR, DL, and CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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