Klaista2k Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) AJ Mccarron - Disappointment and then traded away for a 5th. Vontae Davis - Benched Trent Murphy - Looks like damaged goods Star Louteleli - 50 million really? Looks like a terrible signing. K. Benjamin - Has been a huge disappointment. Can see why Carolina got rid of him. Russell Bodine - Another bad signing. These all look like really bad signings. Is Beane just a bad talent evaluator or what? Edited September 10, 2018 by Klaista2k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Fire him now and bring back Whaley 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 There is more bad signings as well left out on list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 This year's free agent class looks horrendous. The Lotuleilei contract is terrible. Not everyone likes them, but PFF graded him as the 2nd worst DT in the NFL last year and we give a one dimensional run defender $10 mil per season. This is possibly the least talented Bills roster we've had over the past 20 years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Bangarang said: Fire him now and bring back Whaley I hope this leads to a glorious EJ homecoming. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Bangarang said: Fire him now and bring back Whaley Things stand right now no for Whaley but willing giving Beane one more off season and go from there for regular season. But doesn't look good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Can’t fire him until Tannenhill lights us up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 he spend a decent amount of money this offseason a solved zero problems. It is great that they will have 60 plus million to spend this off season but will there be any players worth buying? Can Beane identify the players to sign. Don't forget he gave up a ton of draft capable to move up twice. He made his bed let's see how it plays out, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 should not overlook the Coleman trade. He flushed around 3.5M in a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Fire him now and bring back Whaley Yeah, let's bring back 7 years of failure over 1 bad game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The way that I see it is like this... out of the names you mentioned the only FA signing you can pin on Beane are Star and maybe Trent Murphy. And the jury is still out on both of those guys. Guys like Bodine, Davis, and McCarron were all low-risk/high reward situations. They were not Day 1 or even Day 2 Free agents. They signed them as reasonable prices. It’s not like they broke the bank. The Bills probably never got the return on Benjamin. Last season it was a mix of injuries and a QB in Tyrod who doesn’t throw WR’s open and is reluctant to throw contested passes. Today’s effort was abysmal. Still on paper the 3rd round pick they gave up seemed reasonable. Oh and they did break that playoff streak, so you. So you can argue the trade was justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: AJ Mccarron - Disappointment and then traded away for a 5th. Vontae Davis - Benched Trent Murphy - Looks like damaged goods Star Louteleli - 50 million really? Looks like a terrible signing. K. Benjamin - Has been a huge disappointment. Can see why Carolina got rid of him. Russell Bodine - Another bad signing. These all look like really bad signings. Is Beane just a bad talent evaluator or what? I think they should have at least kept AJ until they knew for sure what Nate was going to look like . Can you say premature ejection ? Vontae - they say is still recovering from the injury . Murphy - well i'm not sure about him could be new scheme Star needs to get off his ass & play some ball !! Bodine is here as a depth player, Groy will be okay !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: should not overlook the Coleman trade. He flushed around 3.5M in a week. Ouch. I keep forgetting about that. Hey, but at least Newhouse was cheap and played like it .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Beane will be judged by what Josh Allen is, more specifically if he is a true franchise QB. Still extremely early, but Josh Allen's play hasn't raised any doubts yet. This other stuff is small potatoes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: The way that I see it is like this... out of the names you mentioned the only FA signing you can pin on Beane are Star and maybe Trent Murphy. And the jury is still out on both of those guys. Guys like Bodine, Davis, and McCarron were all low-risk/high reward situations. They were not Day 1 or even Day 2 Free agents. They signed them as reasonable prices. It’s not like they broke the bank. The Bills probably never got the return on Benjamin. Last season it was a mix of injuries and a QB in Tyrod who doesn’t throw WR’s open and is reluctant to throw contested passes. Today’s effort was abysmal. Still on paper the 3rd round pick they gave up seemed reasonable. Oh and they did break that playoff streak, so you. So you can argue the trade was justified. So you're crediting Benjamin with breaking the drought, but blaming Tyrod for the lack of his production? That's a very convenient stance. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Beane's pro personnel dept has not got off to a good start. Maybe that will change with a better cap position next season? Say what you will about Whaley as a GM, but he found some good FA acquisitions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: AJ Mccarron - Disappointment and then traded away for a 5th. Vontae Davis - Benched Trent Murphy - Looks like damaged goods Star Louteleli - 50 million really? Looks like a terrible signing. K. Benjamin - Has been a huge disappointment. Can see why Carolina got rid of him. Russell Bodine - Another bad signing. These all look like really bad signings. Is Beane just a bad talent evaluator or what? What about Matthews and Phillip Gaines? Matthews sucked last year, and Phillip Gaines isn't nearly as good as EJ Gaines whom the Bills didn't re-sign. 17 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: The way that I see it is like this... out of the names you mentioned the only FA signing you can pin on Beane are Star and maybe Trent Murphy. And the jury is still out on both of those guys. Guys like Bodine, Davis, and McCarron were all low-risk/high reward situations. They were not Day 1 or even Day 2 Free agents. They signed them as reasonable prices. It’s not like they broke the bank. The Bills probably never got the return on Benjamin. Last season it was a mix of injuries and a QB in Tyrod who doesn’t throw WR’s open and is reluctant to throw contested passes. Today’s effort was abysmal. Still on paper the 3rd round pick they gave up seemed reasonable. Oh and they did break that playoff streak, so you. So you can argue the trade was justified. How the hell can you claim that bottom feeder veteran FAs are "low-risk/high reward situations"? They're known quantities. They're cheap because they're lousy!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Bring back Whaley for Pro Personnel....PSYCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) The AJ signing was pretty cheap and a decent idea. The mistake was playing Nate, which wasn't Beane's call. I thought all along that they should start Allen, get him some experience and AJ is a mediocre but decent backup on a cheap contract. That wasn't a bad idea. After one game there there is no way to evaluate Star and Trent Murphy. Neither played well but it is one game. Newhouse and Bodine were terrible signings. They weren't good players before, and they have shown that since. Not addressing the OL seriously even though he was dealt a bad hand with Wood and Richie, is inexcusable. Combined with McD not keeping our guy who beats up teenagers on pool lounges for Juan Castillo who is awful, is a double whammy. The Coleman trade to me isn't really fair to criticize too much unless you didn't think it wasnt worth it when it happened. The fans were the ones so excited about the apparent steal. I think Beane and McD knew there was a good chance that Coleman was not going to make the team, and the $3m risk was worth it at the time. That said, not having any legit speed guy, which necessitated the trade, was on Beane and McD. They didn't address a glaring weakness. Beane and McDermott have yet to prove they know anything at all about offense. I do like Josh and if he is good that goes a LONG way, but the 20 or so moves so far, not counting Josh, have been awful. Edited September 10, 2018 by Kelly the Dog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, 1billsfan said: Beane will be judged by what Josh Allen is, more specifically if he is a true franchise QB. Still extremely early, but Josh Allen's play hasn't raised any doubts yet. This other stuff is small potatoes. Beane will be judged by now well the team does. If Allen does well but we still lose, he's toast. If we win the Super Bowl next year or the year after with Paxton Lynch, he will be golden for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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