26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Barnwell: Answering Biggest Questions on Khalil Mack Trade This is an enormous bet from both sides. The Bears are assuredly about to hand Mack a blank check, while the trade suggests that the Raiders' checkbook might be under lock and key. So many questions came to mind as I tried to figure out this swap. Let's go through them and see what we can figure out about the biggest trade in recent league history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Would be interested to see how the money would have been made to work. So the Bears, Jests and us. Two AFC teams vs one NFC team. Makes sense. Have to presume McC was part of this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That should end the completely window licking “incompetent beane” nonsense. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 13 hours ago, bobobonators said: The Bears are offering us two 1st round picks and a third round pick, etc. We have to BEAT that. How do we beat that? Two 1st round picks and a second round pick? THREE 1st round picks? The way you beat it is by eliminating every part of the trade except the 2 1st rounders. The Bears actually got more than Mack out of the deal. They turned a 3rd into a 2nd and a 6th into a 5th. If you offer 2 1st rounders with nothing else that should have been enough to beat their offer. I wouldn't have done that though. 9 hours ago, papazoid said: Mack is a sure thing He actually isn't a sure thing. The post from QCity on the last page is right. Maybe he blows out a knee, maybe he suddenly gets lazy, maybe he plays great for two years then hits a wall. Maybe he plays like JJ Watt in his prime for the next 6 years but the rest of the defense sucks and your franchise QB turns out to be a bust and you don't have 1st round picks to improve those aspects of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just out of curiosity.................... Most people on here think the Bills are going to be bad and if the Bills are going to be bad.............. Why the heck would they give up two first rounders and a boatload of contract for ONE player, when they need many? This doesn't make any sense, for the folks who think the Bills are awful. Even if you think the Bills are going to be good, this is still an insane trade for the Bills to make, along with an insane contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, RyanC883 said: not saying McBeane would do it, only that he should have done it. We have a rookie QB, rookie MLB, and tons of cap space and the cap goes up every year. For the best defensive player since Watt in his prime, yeah, you do that. As great as Edmunds is/will be, Mack is great now. Having them together would have been fantastic. And we need OL, WR, etc. help next year. Something that can easily be found in Round 2 onward. It will be impossible for Mack to ever live up to that contract, let alone the draft capital traded for him... Raiders won the trade hands down imo Edited September 2, 2018 by JaCrispy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: It will be impossible for Mack to ever live up to that contract, let alone the draft capital traded for him... Raiders won the trade hands down imo Yeah it's going to be tough. I mean if you're the bears and you think you're a SB contender for 2018-2022 then I get why they did it. Mack is legit elite and game changing. The issue is the draft picks PLUS the contract. If he's anything short of HoF caliber play for 4+ years straight then they got completely robbed. If they win a SB with him dominating though, nothing else matters. Bears get: Khalil Mack 2020 2nd round 2020 conditional 5th Raiders get: 2019 1st 2019 3rd 2020 1st 2020 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: It will be impossible for Mack to ever live up to that contract, let alone the draft capital traded for him... Raiders won the trade hands down imo The old adage says the team that gets the best player wins the trade. Right now, that’s the Bears, hands down. If and when one of the picks acquired by Oakland ends up being better than Mack, then we can say the Raiders won the trade. The odds are against it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 17 hours ago, RyanC883 said: not saying McBeane would do it, only that he should have done it. We have a rookie QB, rookie MLB, and tons of cap space and the cap goes up every year. For the best defensive player since Watt in his prime, yeah, you do that. As great as Edmunds is/will be, Mack is great now. Having them together would have been fantastic. And we need OL, WR, etc. help next year. Something that can easily be found in Round 2 onward. I disagree. Why shell out all that cap going forward and those picks for any superstar on Defense? How often does that work out? Suh, Haynesworth, Mario--all traded for huge money and all did nothing for the fortunes of the teams that signed them. Even the Broncos, who re-signed Von Miller have since seen their defense go from 4th in points surrendered to 22nd. People are saying Gruen was crazy for trading Mack. I disagree. He got 2 first round picks out of Chicago---at team that will not one one extra gam because of Mack. If their QB situation tanks, they are screwed, no matter if Mack makes it back to even 12 sacks a year. Bears won't have any relief in the draft going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 when we had a chance to draft Kahlil Mack, but instead drafted Sammy Watkins? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Mods. please close this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Damn. Thought this was a band camp thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bills6969 said: when we had a chance to draft Kahlil Mack, but instead drafted Sammy Watkins? ? Burned 2 firsts and a fourth on that guy....all while we could have just sat where we were at 9 and taken some stiff named Odell Beckham, Jr. And many here thought Doug Whaley was a good GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Oh wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 What would we do with our first round picks from the bears? Lb and WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Mods. please close this thread. I'll second that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Darius?? I get your point though. Beane is not helping. He may be the worse gm in bills history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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