Seanbillsfan2206 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Whelp, guess I better go drink bleach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Lights out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: If the fiasco Sunday was your main point of reference, and it probably was for BR, it's very easy to see why they might think the Bills might be looking at the basement. Last seasons backing into the playoffs may have given Bills fans reason to believe McCoach is the second coming, when in reality "the process" is still in place. They got their QB, and it is early, but early indications are that he is a keeper. But there is still a long way to go talent wise. Receivers, Oline, running backs (excluding Shady who isn't getting any younger). This year may look like a regression due in large part to the Bills D going nuts with turnovers last season and the good fortune to make it to the playoffs and end the drought. But the Bills are still rebuilding, Rome wasn't built in a day and the Bills can't be rebuilt in a day either. I think people are more upset with Beane and the FO, not necessarily McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Cleveland hasn't proven anything yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: If the fiasco Sunday was your main point of reference, and it probably was for BR, it's very easy to see why they might think the Bills might be looking at the basement. Last seasons backing into the playoffs may have given Bills fans reason to believe McCoach is the second coming, when in reality "the process" is still in place. They got their QB, and it is early, but early indications are that he is a keeper. But there is still a long way to go talent wise. Receivers, Oline, running backs (excluding Shady who isn't getting any younger). This year may look like a regression due in large part to the Bills D going nuts with turnovers last season and the good fortune to make it to the playoffs and end the drought. But the Bills are still rebuilding, Rome wasn't built in a day and the Bills can't be rebuilt in a day either. 5 minutes ago, Mango said: I think people are more upset with Beane and the FO, not necessarily McD. Fair enough. The Oline being in apparently such terrible shape seems to be a big fail, but ultimately the same holds true for them. Edited August 28, 2018 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Cleveland hasn't proven anything yet. No, but their roster is WAY more talented. They are a year ahead of us in their rebuild. Next year we have the cap space to go with 9 picks. They had that this year. The Browns should be better than the Bills this year. They can rush the passer, have a good OL, and a bunch of playmakers. Their roster is way deeper as well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 All this from one preseason game against the Bengals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: there was hype ? Most everyone said it was a low risk high reward possibility You're not throwing the 60 yard bomb with less than 3 seconds to launch.. Hopefully that ends up working for us this season some Booger...you can slice it up,cut it up,butter it up etc....it's still 3 for 7 yards.Just maybe he's having a tough time getting Daboll's playbook digested. 52 minutes ago, twist_to_open said: All this from one preseason game against the Bengals? Well...the starters against the Browns didn't look good either. Edited August 28, 2018 by Misterbluesky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 54 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Coleman..3 receptions 7 yards.So much for the hype. Coleman should not make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 bleacher report is a couple notches below espn... that should tell you everything you need to know right there.. the articles there are also made from some recent undergrad who likes sports, but doesn't really know the fine details of the game. i know this because i lived in SF where it is headquartered. One of my good friends lived with a dude who was a front page editor there. all he did was take notes on his laptop while watching a game... and this dude wasted his money on a 4 year degree. JUST TO DO THAT?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well based off my eyes I think I can say this is the worst OL the Bills have put on the field in all my time being a fan. I agree and I'd add they also have one of the very worst offensive line coaches too. 18 minutes ago, Mango said: Richie was gone a few weeks prior to the draft. Wood was gone before the Super Bowl. The right side of the line was a mess and they knew it. There was time to make a marked upgrade to at least one OL position. This FO basically ignored the line "talent wise" with the thinking that any big body can play an offensive lineman. Considering the team drafted Dion Dawkins with a #2 pick we (me) all thought the FO had an actual plan to replace Woods, Incognito and they don't. Dawkins was supposed to replace Mills at RT which would have been a big upgrade. Now the team is desperate for a quality center, LG, RG, RT and who knows if Dawkins will hold up the LT position without Incognito to help him out. The 2017 Buffalo Bills offensive line is a shambles and I don't see a quick fix out of this mess. The one thing that bothers me so very much is that over the years the Bills coaches/GM can see the need for super high talented defensive line players like Dareus, Mario Williams and yet don't feel the need to upgrade the line with similar quality talent to block those types of players. A 100 million dollar DE and where did it get them? The #4 overall defense in the NFL in 2014 with the best pass rush in the NFL and it didn't even get them into the playoffs. The offensive line and QB position are where this team has failed since the super bowl era. When will Buffalo Bills coaches, GMs get it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly101 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2792785-are-the-buffalo-bills-already-the-nfls-worst-team Are the Buffalo Bills Already the NFL's Worst Team? Read at your own risk. One caveat: I sort of know the writer and he’s a good guy who has no grudge against the Bills. He’s calling it like he sees it. Now flame away at him. They need to sit allen, that oline is wretched, roll with peterman. Its pretty obvious this will be a throw away year Would be sweet to get a top 5 pick next draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Sit Josh Allen this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Ok, I'm already getting ready to duck, but it seems like everyone in the world (outside of Buffalo) is underselling Nathan Peterman. I know he was horrendous in his spotlight moment against the Chargers, but he looks far improved this preseason. He was carving up the Panthers first team defense to the tune of 11 yards per play until his fluke interception. He was mostly solid against the Browns, and he threw some beautiful balls against the Bengals. I would not be surprised if he turns out to be a clear upgrade over Tyrod Taylor. Let's put it this way, if Peterman were a first round pick and had this type of preseason in his sophomore year, I think the perception of the QB position, and the Bills in general, would be far more favorable on the national level. Yes, he's going to throw some interceptions (and probably some more pick-6s), but I think he'll get this offense moving, especially with the threat of McCoy in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I agree and I'd add they also have one of the very worst offensive line coaches too. This FO basically ignored the line "talent wise" with the thinking that any big body can play an offensive lineman. Considering the team drafted Dion Dawkins with a #2 pick we (me) all thought the FO had an actual plan to replace Woods, Incognito and they don't. Dawkins was supposed to replace Mills at RT which would have been a big upgrade. Now the team is desperate for a quality center, LG, RG, RT and who knows if Dawkins will hold up the LT position without Incognito to help him out. The 2017 Buffalo Bills offensive line is a shambles and I don't see a quick fix out of this mess. The one thing that bothers me so very much is that over the years the Bills coaches/GM can see the need for super high talented defensive line players like Dareus, Mario Williams and yet don't feel the need to upgrade the line with similar quality talent to block those types of players. A 100 million dollar DE and where did it get them? The #4 overall defense in the NFL in 2014 with the best pass rush in the NFL and it didn't even get them into the playoffs. The offensive line and QB position are where this team has failed since the super bowl era. When will Buffalo Bills coaches, GMs get it? Yep. It is inexcusable that Teflon Juan is still employed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Here is a good site for all those who would like to validate their doom and gloom predictions: Enjoy. (Hint: Sully agrees that this could be the worst team in the NFL) https://footballmaven.io/bills/news/guess-who-s-back-bucky-and-sully-returning-with-comprehensive-bills-coverage-dhO-1MPf9EO7R0czw2IujQ/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I agree and I'd add they also have one of the very worst offensive line coaches too. This FO basically ignored the line "talent wise" with the thinking that any big body can play an offensive lineman. Considering the team drafted Dion Dawkins with a #2 pick we (me) all thought the FO had an actual plan to replace Woods, Incognito and they don't. Dawkins was supposed to replace Mills at RT which would have been a big upgrade. Now the team is desperate for a quality center, LG, RG, RT and who knows if Dawkins will hold up the LT position without Incognito to help him out. The 2017 Buffalo Bills offensive line is a shambles and I don't see a quick fix out of this mess. The one thing that bothers me so very much is that over the years the Bills coaches/GM can see the need for super high talented defensive line players like Dareus, Mario Williams and yet don't feel the need to upgrade the line with similar quality talent to block those types of players. A 100 million dollar DE and where did it get them? The #4 overall defense in the NFL in 2014 with the best pass rush in the NFL and it didn't even get them into the playoffs. The offensive line and QB position are where this team has failed since the super bowl era. When will Buffalo Bills coaches, GMs get it? My larger gripe is that we also didn’t fix anything else. We got Allen. The dude has skills, but also a lot of question marks. Getting your QB shouldn’t mean you don’t get better literally ANYWHERE ELSE. Fine, we get Alllen. Ignore the offensive side of the ball. Better make a huge improvement on the defensive side then, and we didn’t. We stepped back everywhere. Of allen turns out to be the guy for 15 years. I was wrong. I’ll gladly admit it (cough EJ cough). Right now it’s a tough pill to swallow if you look at the roster as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, twist_to_open said: All this from one preseason game against the Bengals? Yep. If all you saw of us last year was our performance against the Saints or Chargers, you wouldn't have thought us capable of winning a single game, let alone making the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said: Yep. If all you saw of us last year was our performance against the Saints or Chargers, you wouldn't have thought us capable of winning a single game, let alone making the playoffs. Stop that. There is no place for optimism on this board! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DtownB2 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mango said: My larger gripe is that we also didn’t fix anything else. We got Allen. The dude has skills, but also a lot of question marks. Getting your QB shouldn’t mean you don’t get better literally ANYWHERE ELSE. Fine, we get Alllen. Ignore the offensive side of the ball. Better make a huge improvement on the defensive side then, and we didn’t. We stepped back everywhere. Of allen turns out to be the guy for 15 years. I was wrong. I’ll gladly admit it (cough EJ cough). Right now it’s a tough pill to swallow if you look at the roster as a whole. We stepped back everywhere on defense? How and where? You're telling me you thought our defense was going to be good at the beginning of last year? EJ Gaines was pretty much unknown when he was traded here and the dude is always injured. He's injured right now for the next few weeks. I am pretty optimistic of this defense but let's see an actual game that counts first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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