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Lets give some credit to THE O LINE

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Watch out for the Ike. He is going to make a run at a roster spot. Excellent last night. 

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3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

They looked more than serviceable....Teller and Bodine were rock solid.Move Ducasse back to the right guard spot and let Teller start at left guard next week..I'm sure it's being discussed. Teller sure doesn't look like sideline material.

 

I'd even try Teller and Miller with Ducasse as Reserve in the pre-season.

 

The second unit looked better than the first in run blocking, and almost as good as the first in PB after the first sack. Maybe that was the opponent, number of opportunities or the fact Murphy seems on a mission to provide young legs to an ageing RB corps, but I've been banging the drum that the O-line is not the desperate mess some believed it to be.

 

The tird unit was pretty bad but Ike B seemed to stand out well in run blocking.

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6 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

I'd even try Teller and Miller with Ducasse as Reserve in the pre-season.

 

The second unit looked better than the first in run blocking, and almost as good as the first in PB after the first sack. Maybe that was the opponent, number of opportunities or the fact Murphy seems on a mission to provide young legs to an ageing RB corps, but I've been banging the drum that the O-line is not the desperate mess some believed it to be.

 

The tird unit was pretty bad but Ike B seemed to stand out well in run blocking.

 

You almost called them the turd unit, which would have been great.

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49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Watch out for the Ike. He is going to make a run at a roster spot. Excellent last night. 

 

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I'll wait until the season starts before I go giving praise to the O-Line. Castillo is bottom of the barrel as far a OL coaches, he is the only coach on this staff that I want fired.

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OLines look better when QBs get rid of the ball quickly and on time. We haven't seen that in a while. Peterson, especially, gets rid of it very fast. Part of that is a naturally quick release but it's also play design and quick diagnosis that his first read is there especially when there's a favorable pre-snap matchup he likes. One reason Benjamin seems to be his favorite target going back to last season. Benjamin is a matchup nightmare for most CBs. 

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Vlad Ducasse needs to be cut. He must have compromising photos of McD

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1 minute ago, Domdab99 said:

Vlad Ducasse needs to be cut. He must have compromising photos of McD

 

Sounds like he hit on your significant other.  Professionals have said he has played well when he was whipping boy on wall.

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9 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Sounds like he hit on your significant other.  Professionals have said he has played well when he was whipping boy on wall.

 

i saw the game. He sucks. 

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5 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

They looked more than serviceable....Teller and Bodine were rock solid.Move Ducasse back to the right guard spot and let Teller start at left guard next week..I'm sure it's being discussed. Teller sure doesn't look like sideline material.

 

What did Miller do to be put on the Bench. He was looking like the Miller we thought we had before 

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5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

What did Miller do to be put on the Bench. He was looking like the Miller we thought we had before 

Miller got benched after last year's Bengals game because he wasn't consistent.I have no problem with him getting a second shot,I guess.I'm mainly focused in on the fact that Teller was very solid last night...I'twould be a shame for him to watch from the sidelines all year of  he's capable of playing the same way every week.Hell...I'm all for solid depth,so I won't complain if Miller goes back to the way he played when he first arrived here.Good vibes for the interior lineman,Groy and Bodine included.

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35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

What did Miller do to be put on the Bench. He was looking like the Miller we thought we had before 

 

35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

What did Miller do to be put on the Bench. He was looking like the Miller we thought we had before 

 

Struggled understanding the zone blocking scheme. Too many times he was stood there blocking nobody. 

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They are, who we thought they were!

 

I BILL-eve in this online!!

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

Struggled understanding the zone blocking scheme. Too many times he was stood there blocking nobody. 

Like Mills in last year's Chargers game...

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8 hours ago, WMDman said:

i even thought the second unit looked serviceable 

Yes. As I watched the 2nd quarter I thought: the Bills second unit is comprised of either mediocre/bad starters or young/unproven guys.

 

Newhouse and Bodine are just poopy starters, but might be solid depth. Teller looked strong, but inexperienced. The right side is a little muddier, but a team only really needs both a solid interior and exterior backup...

 

Another tackle with promise would be nice, in a better world.

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5 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

Agreed, I would like Teller to replace Ducasse

Ducasse doesn’t deserve to start , he sure as hell doesn’t deserve a name Vlad !!!

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I think that the offensive line is one place where chemistry is almost more important than talent.  Yeah, you've got to have guys that can play, particularly at center and left tackle, but it's even more important to have guys that know what to expect of each other and can work closely with each other to make the whole blocking scheme work.  Yeah, receivers have to have chemistry with their QB, but on every single play, you've got to have five guys functioning as a single unit.  That's why quality offensive line coaching is critical.  There is enough talent among the first 10 guys to make it work.  It is to Castillo's credit that it actually is working.

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10 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I realize vanilla D and all that.....but Carolina's defensive line is not chopped liver....and the starting O line played pretty darn well considering....allowing Peterman to do his thing.

I'd be willing to think that the two HC's, GM's had a gentleman's agreement to not blitz much while keeping things simple. Even Cleveland, Cincy and Chicago won't show their full defenses in the preseason. 

 

I think I'll wait until I see how the line plays with the real bullets flying at Baltimore, the Chargers, at Minnesota. We should know how well that line will do this season following how they protect and run block against those three teams.

 

I suspect the line is not as good as it currently looks. 25 of 39 for 338 passing with only 21 rushing attempts, 430 yards of offense total seems off the charts against a usually stout Carolina defense.

 

8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Im still concerned about the OL.  I was thrilled to see a better than expected performance, but its the first preseason game thats not much more meaningful than a scrimmage.  So I am not ready to relax my concerns just yet, but definitely encouraging.  So I probably wont be more than cautiously optimistic until I see what the do when the games matter.  

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Gregggggo will scheme to test them next week.  I can almost guarantee it.  He's still pissed about being fired.  They have some talent on the DL in Cleveland.

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3 hours ago, JoeF said:

Gregggggo will scheme to test them next week.  I can almost guarantee it.  He's still pissed about being fired.  They have some talent on the DL in Cleveland.

 

...better get your airhorn ready........

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On 8/10/2018 at 11:42 AM, John from Riverside said:

I like Miller at that RG spot

 

It is really nice to know that if we get a OG boo boo then Teller is waiting in the wings.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!  

 

Sorry to single out this one post John but I remember reading this thread weeks ago thinking, these guys have no idea what they’re talking about.

 

we could field the worst starting OL in league history this season. And that’s before injuries. Our interior line is a complete debacle and I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut Miller and ducasse before midnight.  Miller may have played the worst half any player has ever played.  And I was in stubhub stadium to see peterman vs the chargers.  We’re in big trouble unless we figure this out.

 

like I’ve been saying since I saw him hired.  FIRE CASTILLO. he’s the devil

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24 minutes ago, NewEra said:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!  

 

Sorry to single out this one post John but I remember reading this thread weeks ago thinking, these guys have no idea what they’re talking about.

 

we could field the worst starting OL in league history this season. And that’s before injuries. Our interior line is a complete debacle and I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut Miller and ducasse before midnight.  Miller may have played the worst half any player has ever played.  And I was in stubhub stadium to see peterman vs the chargers.  We’re in big trouble unless we figure this out.

 

like I’ve been saying since I saw him hired.  FIRE CASTILLO. he’s the devil

He was bad today......no doubt.  Takes his share of the blame along with the rest....

 

I dont know what is going on with him...there was a time when he looked like he could be a solid OG

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4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

He was bad today......no doubt.  Takes his share of the blame along with the rest....

 

I dont know what is going on with him...there was a time when he looked like he could be a solid OG

Agreed, I was holding out hope that he could improve and last season lit a fire in him.  Today showed he’s not an nfl caliber player.  Can’t rememeber seeing one player play so poorly in a game.  He and Ducasse.....my head starts spinning when I think they are our starting guards. Get teller in there and let him get some experience.  I still have hope for Groy, but he may have been a product of playing next to Ritchie. 

 

 

My  head is still spinning from that OL performance.  Hopefully I can regain some confidence in them by week 4 so I can enjoy the trip to Lambeau.  

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The preseason tests have gotten tougher for the OL and they have regressed each week.   Help wanted!

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