nucci Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: Name some college players who have been more hyped up. this year or ever? Manziel? Edited July 18, 2018 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: LOL no kidding, The man missed one game due to a concussion mid-year and after over a month off football , couldnt even play in his bowl game, sorry that alone would take him out of my top ten. What he says and what he does is starting to grate on me as well. Fixing the NCAA, what a farce, what an ego. In a year he was entering the draft; he most certainly was not going to place himself in a worse off situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, nucci said: this year or ever? Manziel? Nah, he had plenty of detractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Sky Diver said: Nah, he had plenty of detractors. You're right...It's Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd pick Barkley over him for that. Good call. I just looked it up, Barkley is by far the leader, here are the top 4 Barkley +140 Mayfield +400 Allen & Rosen Tied at +900 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, nucci said: You're right...It's Allen Nah, he’s had plenty of detractors too, including a lot of vocal Bills’ fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Good call. I just looked it up, Barkley is by far the leader, here are the top 4 Barkley +140 Mayfield +400 Allen & Rosen Tied at +900 I have to admit I’d have Rosen over Allen by a good bit. Pray I’m wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Name some college players who have been more hyped up. More hyped and picked earlier than Allen include: Mitch Trubisky, Jameis Winston, Eric Fisher, Robert Griffin, JaMarcus Russell, Ronnie Brown, Charles Rogers, Courtney Brown, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Jake Long, Jason Smith. That's just in the last 20 years. Allen isn't being "hyped" at all. Most don't even believe he'll be ready right out of the gates. Not sure what delusion you're living in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Let me know when he cures cancer or solves world hunger. Saban already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: He is the only other possibility I disagree, Darnold is the other possibility. You underestimate the large market love. He may not have the best season of a rookie QB, but if he's close, you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I'm stupid. I thought this meant he is "...already there.", as in he is getting everything down and understanding it. Definitely thought the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 As it should be if you are a 7th over all draft choice in the first round !! I hope he will be given the time & not rushed into the games for what ever the reason might be seeing as we have had a number of QB's pushed into the game early only to be out of the game earlier than expected ! J.P. , E.J. , Trent , & others may have benefited by sitting a bit before being thrown into the fire !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augie said: I have to admit I’d have Rosen over Allen by a good bit. Pray I’m wrong! I would as well, Rosen is, imo, clearly more ready to play in the NFL than Allen is, i would say probably a year ahead. Bills claim they can gix his accuracy issues, wel l they aint gonna fix them in a few woeks. 8 minutes ago, nucci said: You're right...It's Allen Seriously, you dont see all the detractors of Allen, even here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I disagree, Darnold is the other possibility. You underestimate the large market love. He may not have the best season of a rookie QB, but if he's close, you know how it goes. Rosen is ready to play today, Darnold still needs time IMO and the Jets WRs & RBs are not as good as the Cards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: That was my first thought too since camp is in Rochester. Mission from God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: OROY = Josh Rosen You can bank it... Do you need help registering with the Cardinals message board? 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I would as well, Rosen is, imo, clearly more ready to play in the NFL than Allen is, i would say probably a year ahead. Bills claim they can gix his accuracy issues, wel l they aint gonna fix them in a few woeks. Seriously, you dont see all the detractors of Allen, even here? Here: https://www.nflshop.com/Mens_Arizona_Cardinals_Josh_Rosen_NFL_Pro_Line_Cardinal_Player_Jersey/t-25828931+o-0261+d-899300124+f-1978056+z-9-3014010602?_s=ak1944nfl-pla&sku=10945599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I would as well, Rosen is, imo, clearly more ready to play in the NFL than Allen is, i would say probably a year ahead. Bills claim they can gix his accuracy issues, wel l they aint gonna fix them in a few woeks. Seriously, you dont see all the detractors of Allen, even here? Sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, cba fan said: you are not stupid...…....many probably thought the same thing as that has been a long debate on the boards. Use of the word "there" implies that. Using the word "here" in headline would have been more accurate. By virtue of being a poster at TBD he is, in fact, an idiot. And he's not alone. If OP says "Allen is here" then we all get to wonder what in the hell our future QB is doing in the middle of nowhere California, you idiot. 24 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: The expectations are high since he is arguably the most over hyped players in NFL history. The guy who is expected to open the season on the bench behind McCarron and Peterman is the MOST hyped player in NFL History???? The 3rd QB taken in his draft class is more hyped than Jamarcus, Luck, RG3, Reggie Bush, Jadaveon, Marinovich, the Boz, Bo Jackson, Jeff George, Elway, we can go on forever here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, nucci said: Sarcasm Very difficult sometimes to detect sarcasm here with al the bizarre and outlandish things people actually state and believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Very difficult sometimes to detect sarcasm here with al the bizarre and outlandish things people actually state and believe. I know...sorry about that...didn't want to argue about Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: By virtue of being a poster at TBD he is, in fact, an idiot. And he's not alone. If OP says "Allen is here" then we all get to wonder what in the hell our future QB is doing in the middle of nowhere California, you idiot. don't be a Dick, Jauronimo. If he said "here" as a Bills fan, posting on a Bills board, with training camp fast approaching, any reasonably aware individual would interpret that as him being in Buffalo. If not they would interpret him as being physically in some other location., most likely the OP location of which we do not know his location. Being "there" implies as I stated and others have noted "there" in a football NFL ready starting QB location of mentally and athletically. CA? WTH. Why would anyone think the OP meant CA? If he was specifying location it would be location the OP is in not location Josh lived with parents. Nobody knows where OP lives so again it points to Josh being in Buffalo. Hell we do not even know where Josh lives right now. He likely has an apartment or house in Buffalo area already. Maybe you hate the OP but that should not make you post stupid **** to get under his skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: It comes down to Eli this year. If he is crappy Eli, it's 8 in the box and his YPC was not that great in college. They also did a lot of work on their OL, hopefully they jell quick enough... QBs are fancier choices and he has the best shot at starting right away. Eli isn’t crappy with a running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Eli isn’t crappy with a running game. Eli = INT. He is overrated and far from elite... Edit: and still better than any starting QB we have had since 96.... Edited July 18, 2018 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Mission from God? Hells yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, cba fan said: don't be a Dick, Jauronimo. If he said "here" as a Bills fan, posting on a Bills board, with training camp fast approaching, any reasonably aware individual would interpret that as him being in Buffalo. If not they would interpret him as being physically in some other location., most likely the OP location of which we do not know his location. Being "there" implies as I stated and others have noted "there" in a football NFL ready starting QB location of mentally and athletically. CA? WTH. Why would anyone think the OP meant CA? If he was specifying location it would be location the OP is in not location Josh lived with parents. Nobody knows where OP lives so again it points to Josh being in Buffalo. Hell we do not even know where Josh lives right now. He likely has an apartment or house in Buffalo area already. Maybe you hate the OP but that should not make you post stupid **** to get under his skin. I'm not being a dick, just stating the facts. OP's name is John in Riverside (formerly John in Hemet). His location is Riverside California. He is well known to most of the board. Many people know that OP lives in California. Therefore, using the word "here" would not be an improvement. The correct phrasing would be "hes already [in Buffalo]" thus eliminating all confusion. The simple fact is you were wrong on both counts. The person you were responding to is an idiot (all of us here are) and "here" is not the correct phrasing since OP is not in Buffalo. Got it, idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: I'm not being a dick, just stating the facts. OP's name is John in Riverside (formerly John in Hemet). His location is Riverside California. He is well known to most of the board. Many people know that OP lives in California. Therefore, using the word "here" would not be an improvement. The correct phrasing would be "hes already [in Buffalo]" thus eliminating all confusion. The simple fact is you were wrong on both counts. The person you were responding to is an idiot (all of us here are) and "here" is not the correct phrasing since OP is not in Buffalo. Got it, idiot? Yeah I got it, Dick. Edited July 18, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Got it, idiot? Don't forget to pay DCTOM his royalties... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Eli = INT. He is overrated and far from elite... Edit: and still better than any starting QB we have had since 96.... Yeah well he might be overrated but he had 2 streaks of games , 2 Super Victories and 2 SB MVPs in his career that are going to get hin into the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yeah well he might be overrated but he had 2 streaks of games , 2 Super Victories and 2 SB MVPs in his career that are going to get hin into the HOF. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-is-profoundly-mediocre/ NFL players have spoken and, according to them, Eli Manning, the owner of two Super Bowl rings, is the most overrated quarterback in the league. ESPN polled 155 players, and 14% of responders picked Manning as the most overrated passer in the league. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/nfl-quarterbacks-espn-survey-overrated-eli-manning-giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, cba fan said: Yeah I got it, Dick. I don't think you do. Please see DC Tom who will help you through the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: A few years ago, the Bills had a 3rd overall pick who was dedicated to the craft service... no that was the 16th overall pick a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 The ridiculous things people pick to fight about on these boards really never ceases to amaze me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I'm not being a dick, just stating the facts. OP's name is John in Riverside (formerly John in Hemet). His location is Riverside California. He is well known to most of the board. Many people know that OP lives in California. Therefore, using the word "here" would not be an improvement. The correct phrasing would be "hes already [in Buffalo]" thus eliminating all confusion. The simple fact is you were wrong on both counts. The person you were responding to is an idiot (all of us here are) and "here" is not the correct phrasing since OP is not in Buffalo. Got it, idiot? I think now is the time I say we should all have a group hug......we have almost made it to the end of the offseason and nobody has shived anyone........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This is one of the reasons why I connect with him....I was also a farm boy growing up on my grandpa's Dairy. When you have to move pipe and bail hay first thing in the morning BEFORE you go to school......you know you are working. Sorry I def do NOT mean that.....long ways to go. but you cant win if you dont play know what I mean? amen to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Why can't I look now? When can I look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: The ridiculous things people pick to fight about on these boards really never ceases to amaze me. Its about drawing a line in the sand. This isn't 'Nam, Roy. Also, it was mostly a joke about everyone at TBD being an idiot, per DC Tom's first law of dynamics. I guess it wasn't that clear. Edited July 18, 2018 by Jauronimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Rookies dont report for a week but guess who is already at One Bills Drive working....... Dedication to craft is definately not an issue with our 7th overall pick Glad there is a new thread for this topic. I was starting to think this....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Eli = INT. He is overrated and far from elite... Edit: and still better than any starting QB we have had since 96.... There may not be Elite In Eli. But Eli has certainly been part of Elite, ie championship teams. Get him a running game and decent defense and he and he will make those oddly incredible passes out of nowhere that win games, big games... Stat it up all you want, he has as many rings as his elite bro. Just don’t expect him to carry a weak Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Its about drawing a line in the sand. This isn't 'Nam, Roy. Also, it was mostly a joke about everyone at TBD being an idiot, per DC Tom's first law of dynamics. I guess it wasn't that clear. Yeah my bad. I will stop being a dick now. I get caught up in minutia sometimes. Peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: So NFL players cant have outside interests, solid out look. Especislly considering at least Rosen is signed. I want a guy who eats, drinks and sleeps football and is laser focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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