Matt_In_NH Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Yeah I don’t doubt it Again though with Rob, I don’t think fans were infuriated with the move. We just hoped he’d help Rex get back on track That is when I knew Rex has jumped the shark. I thought it was a terrible and stupid move at the time. If he was not Rex's brother it doesnt happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, 4thandGoal said: Trading up to get Manuel We didn't trade UP to take EJ. We traded DOWN and took Robert Woods with the pick we got from Lambs. Too bad EJ didn't work out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: We didn't trade UP to take EJ. We traded DOWN and took Robert Woods with the pick we got from Lambs. Too bad EJ didn't work out I thought it was Kiko? Which turned into Shady McCoy. I hear about how the Bills traded up for Manuel a lot, as much as it was a bad pick, they knew the QB's were not good and traded back. I think Nix had a chance to trade back a few more spots but got nervous and pulled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 45 minutes ago, 4thandGoal said: trading up to get Sammy trading up to get Manuel trading up to get Zay Jones We traded down to get EJ. Bills were probably the first team ever to trade down to get their franchise QB. That's never a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: We traded down to get EJ. Bills were probably the first team ever to trade down to get their franchise QB. That's never a good sign. That trade back did get us Kiko, who in turn got us Shady, so silver linings there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: They get an unfair rap IMO. I suppose because of recency bias and Whaley's infamous last PC (I didn't think it was THAT bad, I mean the dude was trying to not throw his owners under the bus and in an impossible position.) People gripe Whaley didn't have a plan.. he did. Just didn't pan out. Built from a great defense by drafting his quarterback and going for win now by getting the best WR graded since AJ Green. Overpaid for Clay and basically gambled on having a capable offense on rookie contracts, while having his expensive and aging win now Defense in place. That was a plan. The offense didn't turn around enough to compensate for a defense that got wrexed. He's gone now but talk about not having a plan.. look at Juaron and Chan's aimless teams. Unless you say there's a plan every other day most people will assume there is no plan. If you say theres a plan every other day people will not only believe there is a plan but they will believe its a good plan without any other information. That's my take away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Drafting and cutting Gary Anderson back in 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 There's so many of them in the 17 yr playoff drought. But, for me, here's a few of them. !. Not getting a true franchise qb during the 17yr drought. Example: in the early 2000's, wasn't Drew Breese still on the board when the Bills selected somebody else at another postition? 2. Speaking of that, in 2005, teams were running all over the Bills. So in the 2006 draft, round 1, they select d back Whitner when Gnata was right there for the taking! 3. Hiring jauron, a coach who had a loosing record, and nothing improved over his 3 1/2 year tenure. 4. Drafting Mayben. Was supposed to be our "answer" for the Bills lack of a pass rusher. What a joke. So there's my choice few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) Trading Jason Peters, then having Bills fans tell you what an overweight, fat, bum he was, addition by subtraction they said. It was embarrassing to have Russ Brandon stand up in front of the crowd at the start of Training Camp and say he had no idea where Jason was, that he hadn’t talked to him since January. The other one was hiring Buddy Nix. Again our boy, Russ Brandon, standing up there with Ralph Wilson saying they “scanned a list of names” and narrowed it down to two in-house choices - John Guy and Buddy Nix. Nix was a disaster of a GM. Edited May 14, 2018 by Straight Hucklebuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 10:12 AM, THE SLAMMER said: Right now its the entire Richie Incognito situation This can be worked out. placing all the blame on Richie is a big mistake. Like I always say, if the situation makes no sense there is always more to the story. The Bills are not completely blameless What the....?? "Right now" as in "a few weeks ago"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Nix was a disaster of a GM. Yeah, but sales of Jimmy Dean Sausage went up after every time Nix addressed the media. Subliminal advertising. Edited May 14, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Flutie plays, we win, and it ain't even close. You'll NEVER convince me otherwise ? OK then, it sounds like you're saying with Flutie the Bills win the Super Bowl that year. I love "what if". Edited May 14, 2018 by Epstein's Mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Unless you say there's a plan every other day most people will assume there is no plan. If you say theres a plan every other day people will not only believe there is a plan but they will believe its a good plan without any other information. That's my take away. Sounds like a plan...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 ...would say RW trying to atone for the Polian debacle by hiring the egotistical control freak Donohole (lost his battle with Cowher) who insisted on being named "El Presidente", the first in club history.....everything was down hill from there and he was canned....with the Inner Circle of Trust violated, RW begins to plug misfits, has beens and "over the hill gang" with new tires into positions woefully unqualified for...principal reasons for "The Drought" IMO...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 For me there are five very distinct WTF moments: 1) Drafting Aaron Maybin 2) Hiring Dick Jauron 3) Drafting Willis McGahee 4) The defensive strategy during their last minute drive on MNF! 5) Totally missing on McCargo and JP Losman. Two 1st rounders that we’re total busts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: We didn't trade UP to take EJ. We traded DOWN and took Robert Woods with the pick we got from Lambs. Too bad EJ didn't work out 3 hours ago, mattynh said: I thought it was Kiko? Which turned into Shady McCoy. I hear about how the Bills traded up for Manuel a lot, as much as it was a bad pick, they knew the QB's were not good and traded back. I think Nix had a chance to trade back a few more spots but got nervous and pulled out. It was Kiko. We used our original second round pick to get Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, 4thandGoal said: trading up to get Sammy trading up to get Manuel trading up to get Zay Jones The Bills did not trade up to get Manuel. They traded DOWN form 8 to 16 and picked up an additional second rounder they used to draft Kiko Alonzo--who eventually was traded for LeSean McCoy. I'd say that was some compensation for the Manuel miss. At the very least don't repeat what is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: It was Kiko. We used our original second round pick to get Woods. True. I looked it up and you are indeed correct. Thanks for the correction ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Drafting Spiller and hiring Rex were things that got me mad immediately when they happened. Other things too numerous to list got me mad as they developed over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 hours ago, The Drought said: Drafting and cutting Gary Anderson back in 1982. Gary Anderson was shanking it because he did not want to play for Bills; what were the Bills supposed to do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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