Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 hours ago, jrober38 said: Allen has a bigger arm, otherwise they're essentially the same guy. Same size and same mobility. Both have good intangibles off the field. Allen is a bit thicker. Jordan Palmer said Hackenberg could fix his accuracy in the lead up to the 2016 draft, but he hasn't and will likely be out of the NFL by the end of the summer. Allen is a much better athlete. I don't use the term athlete lightly. Allen's athletic ability is top notch. Very fluid athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I liked these message boards because they weren’t over moderated. Now all of the sudden it’s going down that road... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 It's a shame to merge a thread highlighting a great article that is worth reading into another thread... many posters don't read through all the pages, they might read the first page and skip to the end... that is what I do with long threads to be honest. If you are going to merge like this, maybe create a front page pinned post that allows for new links/content to be added. I have seen some forums do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 37 minutes ago, DJB said: Awesome article. Truly well done! Good luck finding it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I just worry about guys like him starting week 1 when they have some much to work on. I know everyone hates him but I think the Bills killed any chance of success with EJ by forcing him to start right away. I feel like if Allen isn’t ready, like Peterman, he could crush him. I guess the counter is if a bad year can crush a qb, the he wasn’t going to be good enough anyways. But with the state of the offense right now, I think AJ should take the opening lumps. I never hated EJ, haha. I was skeptical when they picked him, for sure. And by all accounts he's a great dude, hard worker, solid teammate, etc. etc. His shortcomings are mainly because of his inability to process the game at the speed it needs to be processed at. I remember this big write-up on the Bills official site from 2014, I believe. It was a good read but what stood out to me was the part where they talked about how hard he works and how he even had to put in extra time and work to get through middle and high school. I'm not saying the guy is stupid or anything, but that article indicated to me that the guy might be a C student doing a job that requires a lot of A's. It was obvious how much he studied, did extra work in the film room, worked after practice with receivers, etc. all that stuff was there. What's missing for the dude is the capability to put everything together in a cohesive manner and then apply it to his position to allow him to play fast and loose without overthinking things. Instead, he was constantly thinking about the things he was working to correct. I wonder if his internal thoughts were kind of like this whenever he lined up for a snap: "OK, pre-snap, there's the Mike, is the safety dropping down or back... I got a one-on-one to my right...nope, now they shifted...OK, doh, play clock is almost out, *HIKE!* Alright, where are my feet as I drop back, one, two, three, and fire the ball...dammit he's not open...lemme look over he--crap, pressure! Bail bail bail! *runs for three yards* Phew!" And then line up and try it again haha. To me, it seems like Allen should have an easier time putting everything together. We'll see, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: The point is a Mod had just posted a thread about creating duplicate threads. When some people feel that they don’t have to follow the rules it ticks off those people that do follow tbe rules. And it ticks off people to not be able to truly have a conversation in a thread because it's digressed into something stupid. Maybe there should be rules about the content of the thread and whether it's even on topic before we worry about starting a thread and having a good conversation. What's the point of a rule if it literally creates a bigger issue than its trying to prevent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I'm relatively new here and don't post a ton so it probably doesn't mean much...I'm probably like the equivalent of a Ray-Ray McCloud on this board, if even...but disappointing that a post like the Joe B one got grouped into this. I fear this board is going to go down the road of boards that have 1 set topic for each player with 400 pages attached to them and people either stop coming or have to spend a lot of time sifting through all the pages to find new info and insight. And all because of a faction of people dedicate themselves to complaining about new threads being opened when they have the option to post something new on a page 34 of a thread if they want to. But anyway, good article. I agree he played with inferior competition but I do still think he's got some issues, especially on some of the shorter and intermediate throws. That might sound like it's just "coachable" but there are many QB's who are never able to clean that up. There's a feel for the game that's involved when deciding when to rip a ball and putting some touch on it, and only the elite few can process that in a matter of a couple of seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Also... this Joe B article isn't even an interview... so it doesn't belong in this thread. It is a lengthy analysis of his game film. I agree with others... I came here and stayed because it seemed like a great forum with reasonable moderation. This might make my stay short lived. Just looking for a friendly place to read and discuss. I don't post much, only get on a few times a week (okay maybe more during the season). Having good content buried in long threads is not going to work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 36 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I need Allen to be the one. I need it. We need him to be the dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Thread never should have been moved... whingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I just worry about guys like him starting week 1 when they have some much to work on. I know everyone hates him but I think the Bills killed any chance of success with EJ by forcing him to start right away. I feel like if Allen isn’t ready, like Peterman, he could crush him. I guess the counter is if a bad year can crush a qb, the he wasn’t going to be good enough anyways. But with the state of the offense right now, I think AJ should take the opening lumps. Agreed 100%. Earliest I’d start Allen is vs the colts week 7. Wouldn’t mind sitting him for the whole year. Maybe McCarron or Peterman will show enough to be able to get us a trade pick for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I am concerned that the moderators on this board don't know what an interview is. Joe Buscaglia didn't interview Josh Allen in his article... we all know that right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I am concerned that the moderators on this board don't know what an interview is. Joe Buscaglia didn't interview Josh Allen in his article... we all know that right? My guess is that was more of an effort to appease the Thread Police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I am concerned that the moderators on this board don't know what an interview is. Joe Buscaglia didn't interview Josh Allen in his article... we all know that right? wtf, someone got merge happy. how do i find where i left off in a certain thread in this one. hint, you don't without scrolling through every stupid page. 2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: This is is a joke.... why not just have a thread titled “Josh Allen Same here. The majority of people likely fee the same way and... the thread is locked down, hence no discussion of it is allowed apparently. 53 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: It's a shame to merge a thread highlighting a great article that is worth reading into another thread... many posters don't read through all the pages, they might read the first page and skip to the end... that is what I do with long threads to be honest. If you are going to merge like this, maybe create a front page pinned post that allows for new links/content to be added. I have seen some forums do that... here's an idea.... create a sub forum. i realize that is ridiculous but so is merging five different threads into one. Edited May 8, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, JaxBills said: And it ticks off people to not be able to truly have a conversation in a thread because it's digressed into something stupid. Maybe there should be rules about the content of the thread and whether it's even on topic before we worry about starting a thread and having a good conversation. What's the point of a rule if it literally creates a bigger issue than its trying to prevent? Rule #1. Use the search function. I do it every time I create a thread. Discussions can be had for example in one Josh Allen thread. When certain people refuse to post in another persons thread ...... it is actually quite sad. In February I started a Bills cap salary thread and this person started their own an hour later. Truth of it ...... it is a better experience because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good luck finding it now. Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I am concerned that the moderators on this board don't know what an interview is. Joe Buscaglia didn't interview Josh Allen in his article... we all know that right? I edited the title in response to your gracious and courteous contributory remarks. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, DJB said: Why do you say that? Buried in this thread without an easy way to locate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, DJB said: Why do you say that? it was easy to find. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Buried in this thread without an easy way to locate it. The search function works very well if you use it. See the post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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