BADOLBILZ Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Will the process dump the reporedly-late-season-doghoused Shaq to get one of their guys? What can they get for him? I was hoping for a 3 team deal with Bills moving Shaq that would have lead to the Bills getting Martavis Bryant but Raiders took care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Will the process dump the reporedly-late-season-doghoused Shaq to get one of their guys? What can they get for him? I was hoping for a 3 team deal with Bills moving Shaq that would have lead to the Bills getting Martavis Bryant but Raiders took care of that. Well if the late season doghouse was IR... Then yes, doghouse. Shaq for Bryant would have been good.... There was a thread earlier on this, packaged him with a few other picks to get a 3rd rounder and something else. I think a 3rd rounder would be about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'd rather move Hughes than Shaq. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Could they get a second rd or 3rd pick for him? I could see them using him in a trade up scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: I'd rather move Hughes than Shaq. You'd rather move a more productive player? Hughes is worth more to Bills than in a trade given his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, GG said: You'd rather move a more productive player? Hughes is worth more to Bills than in a trade given his contract. Hughes is old and we could likely fetch a mid/late 2nd for him, he is declining. Shaq on the other hand would fetch a 4th or 5th but has tons of room for growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 If it is packaged along with a 6th or 7th rounder to get into the third round, then do it! I've been reading that he plans on getting in really good shape this year and maybe that will do the trick but he seems awfully slow to me. He can set the edge against the run but when it comes to pass rush, it's simply not there. Yeah yeah yeah, I know. He got a few sacks early on but most of those were coverage sacks and not sacks where he clearly beat his man to get to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 stop the madness! shaq will improve! relax....take a toke and trust the process..besides, instead of diving fo a late round dt, let's believe he will live up to the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Hughes is old and we could likely fetch a mid/late 2nd for him, he is declining. Shaq on the other hand would fetch a 4th or 5th but has tons of room for growth. Then based on your description the compensation should be switched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Washington might be used to trade up some spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, GG said: Then based on your description the compensation should be switched. In an ideal world we trade neither of them. If Shaq starts dominating in camp though and we got Murphy playing well, sure I'd move Hughes for a 2019 pick. Anything less than a 2nd for Hughes or Lawson, why bother? It's like throwing talent away for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 He’s a decent edge setter and one of the best ENDs on the current roster on a rookie deal. I’d keep him around for year 3 and see if the off season work got him anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 At this point I’d ask him to put on some weight and rotate on the DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Naaa let’s keep him we need d line rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBill Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 He won't be dealt because of cap space. He costs more to trade/cut than he does to keep and right now there is just not much wiggle room. He gets a chance to prove if he has value on this defense - because of the cap hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Might be able to package him with a lower pick for a second. MAYBE. But I’d do it - dude is basically a human paperweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 How about trading Incognito? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Where was it reported that he was in the doghouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 49 minutes ago, TheBeane said: Well if the late season doghouse was IR... Then yes, doghouse. Shaq for Bryant would have been good.... There was a thread earlier on this, packaged him with a few other picks to get a 3rd rounder and something else. I think a 3rd rounder would be about it. IR was later in year than team being disenchanted with him. I don't think there is much chance of getting a third for him but it's a very, very weak pass rusher draft so if someone still loves him for all the wrong reasons from that draft who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Hughes is old and we could likely fetch a mid/late 2nd for him, he is declining. Shaq on the other hand would fetch a 4th or 5th but has tons of room for growth. Hughes had one of his best seasons last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: How about trading Incognito? My guess is despite good play Richie is basically still off the personnel board for all but maybe a few teams...........and while he thinks he's a bargain the few that might take him may not see it that way given his age/baggage. That is if there is even ONE team that would after his deranged behavior recently........which I doubt. But yeah I would bet they've put him up for bid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Hughes had one of his best seasons last year. He's had 10 sacks over 2 years, I know that QB hurries count but don't kid yourself, he is also going to be 30. You have to ask yourself, how much longer does this guy have? 15 sacks over 3 years, I think Lawson can match that production and he is 10 years younger with more upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think he could fetch a 3rd still, maybe you get a 2nd if you package him with a 5th... I certainly don't think he'd be missed... Hughes wouldn't get as much when you figure in his age and declining production, maybe a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: He's had 10 sacks over 2 years, I know that QB hurries count but don't kid yourself, he is also going to be 30. You have to ask yourself, how much longer does this guy have? 15 sacks over 3 years, I think Lawson can match that production and he is 10 years younger with more upside. I remember reading a piece years ago (which I wish I could find!) demonstrating that DEs often had their prime years between 29 and 33 because they had learned the tricks of the trade. Hughes was 100 times better than Lawson last season. He basically won the Atlanta game for Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Pay attention folks. This is how it's done. 1) Make up a premise 2) Start a debate about an unlikely scenario 3) Wait for it not to happen 4) Blame Bills for not enacting the plan you had based on your made up premise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 58 minutes ago, NewEra said: At this point I’d ask him to put on some weight and rotate on the DL In that recent interview he said he's the lightest he's been in years. Even bigger the problem with moving him around is that even DT's need a good first step..........it can't be a secret to him that he has no get-off and yet he hasn't improved up till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I could see a strait up player for player trade later......for Incognito or Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Has Lawson put anything on tape that would recoup some of his value? I don’t think he would be worth much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I like Bandits suggestion of going after Travis Benjamin. Send em Lawson for Benjamin. Definitely need that kinda' speed...........he's gotten behind an NFL defense before which is more than most of our WR corps can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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