MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 If you look at the list of pre-draft visitors for the Broncos, they had Barkley and a bunch of quarterbacks. The rest of their visits where more of the mid first round variety. No Nelson and no Chubb. I just thought that was kind of interesting. The Dolphins met with Mayfield six times apparently. Should be a crazy draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Broncos want to build that defense up again. The quickest way possible is for them to have two firsts this year. Only two teams can offer that and Buffalo (take out Cleveland for obvious reasons) by far is the better package. I think it's almost a done deal that this is where we pick. I wonder how much more we would have to give up, but I don't think it would be too much considering our package with the two firsts is already better than what anyone else could offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: If you look at the list of pre-draft visitors for the Broncos, they had Barkley and a bunch of quarterbacks. The rest of their visits where more of the mid first round variety. No Nelson and no Chubb. I just thought that was kind of interesting. The Dolphins met with Mayfield six times apparently. Should be a crazy draft. ...and perhaps STILL not convinced?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: If you look at the list of pre-draft visitors for the Broncos, they had Barkley and a bunch of quarterbacks. The rest of their visits where more of the mid first round variety. No Nelson and no Chubb. I just thought that was kind of interesting. The Dolphins met with Mayfield six times apparently. Should be a crazy draft. I think we met with Mayfield about 6 times as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Actually no, best scenario would has been to be at 3 spot already Well no, the best scenario would have been to finish with the worst record and own the 1st overall pick. That didn't happen either , and had about the same chance or worse of the Bills getting the 3rd pick from the Colts . The Jets interest in pick 3 meant that wasn't happening for the Bills. Fans need to realize that some things ( such as the draft order and what other teams are willing / unwilling to do) are out of OBD control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think we met with Mayfield about 6 times as well. ...not getting to see collegiate ball (Mayfield) due to work schedule, I'm trying to get my arms around the "Baker Phenomenon" from what I read here at TBD and elsewhere.....first, it sounds like he's a product of the spread or typically shotgun formation...how does it differ SUBSTANTIALLY from the dreaded, leper like Air Raid?...subtle or substantial?.....abundance of posts state ""I want" but do we have a clue what McBeane/McD/McDaboll want?......what shows Baker has the MENTAL aptitude (KEY prerequisite IMO) to perform at this level as far as the speed and complexity of the NFL game?....perhaps MORE importantly, WHICH candidate appears to excel at that over and above his competition?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...not getting to see collegiate ball (Mayfield) due to work schedule, I'm trying to get my arms around the "Baker Phenomenon" from what I read here at TBD and elsewhere.....first, it sounds like he's a product of the spread or typically shotgun formation...how does it differ SUBSTANTIALLY from the dreaded, leper like Air Raid?...subtle or substantial?.....abundance of posts state ""I want" but do we have a clue what McBeane/McD/McDaboll want?......what shows Baker has the MENTAL aptitude (KEY prerequisite IMO) to perform at this level as far as the speed and complexity of the NFL game?....perhaps MORE importantly, WHICH candidate appears to excel at that over and above his competition?....... One factor to consider about all the QB's coming out of college is that in the last several years NFL offenses have been adapting to the college game more and more. The "shotgun" is now in use in the NFL much more so than in previous years. I think I read somewhere that Brady for example was in the "shotgun" something like 70 % of the time which is similar to what these college QB's are doing in the college game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: One factor to consider about all the QB's coming out of college is that in the last several years NFL offenses have been adapting to the college game more and more. The "shotgun" is now in use in the NFL much more so than in previous years. I think I read somewhere that Brady for example was in the "shotgun" something like 70 % of the time which is similar to what these college QB's are doing in the college game... ....good find...very interesting statistic....collegiate ball is no longer the NFL's developmental league (too cheap to start one like NHL or MLB with multiple levels)....so the collegiate mantra is what puts butts in the seats, makes mega boosters happy and leads to a mega millions bowl invites.....and I have my doubts as to whether NFL QB Coaches have the ability to help a kid make ahe transition which may take longer than their patience will endure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Broncos want to build that defense up again. The quickest way possible is for them to have two firsts this year. Only two teams can offer that and Buffalo (take out Cleveland for obvious reasons) by far is the better package. I think it's almost a done deal that this is where we pick. I wonder how much more we would have to give up, but I don't think it would be too much considering our package with the two firsts is already better than what anyone else could offer. I dunno - those two from Cleveland would be mighty appealing, and the points work out: 4+1=5 get Russ on the phone we need to get ahead of this Edited April 22, 2018 by NoSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Giants and Broncos take QB’s. Take it to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, McBean said: Giants and Broncos take QB’s. Take it to the bank. You could be right....I just dont think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 1:46 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, McBean said: Giants and Broncos take QB’s. Take it to the bank. That is not clear at all. The Broncos seemed to announce the other day that the 5th pick is definitely available... They have Keenum for at least two years and can use that time to develop Lynch. In the meantime they could use the extra picks ( maybe 12 and 22) to rebuild other areas of their team... And if Cleveland takes Darnold at #1 the giants may also be inclined to want to trade out of #2... Cleveland may still be interested in trading the #4 pick as well...We will soon find out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloTX said: What is the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...not getting to see collegiate ball (Mayfield) due to work schedule, I'm trying to get my arms around the "Baker Phenomenon" from what I read here at TBD and elsewhere.....first, it sounds like he's a product of the spread or typically shotgun formation...how does it differ SUBSTANTIALLY from the dreaded, leper like Air Raid?...subtle or substantial?.....abundance of posts state ""I want" but do we have a clue what McBeane/McD/McDaboll want?......what shows Baker has the MENTAL aptitude (KEY prerequisite IMO) to perform at this level as far as the speed and complexity of the NFL game?....perhaps MORE importantly, WHICH candidate appears to excel at that over and above his competition?....... The attached link is a seven minute clip of the Oklahoma/Oklahoma St. game It was a shootout with Mayfield and Rudolph leading their respective teams. You can get a sense of the accuracy level of both qbs. The challenge is to determine if this wide-open no defense allows you to judge if the qb play transfers to the pro game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, JohnC said: The attached link is a seven minute clip of the Oklahoma/Oklahoma St. game It was a shootout with Mayfield and Rudolph leading their respective teams. You can get a sense of the accuracy level of both qbs. The challenge is to determine if this wide-open no defense allows you to judge if the qb play transfers to the pro game. ...thanks....I'm suspect if an isolated one game film versus a far wider body of work is fair enough to judge on IMO........in the spirit of FULL disclosure, I do not get to see college ball so I am impartial...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thanks....I'm suspect if an isolated one game film versus a far wider body of work is fair enough to judge on IMO........in the spirit of FULL disclosure, I do not get to see college ball so I am impartial...... How Mayfield played in this game is how he played all season long. It is reflective of his body of work. Again, the issue for the evaluators is does his dynamism in college translate to the pro game. I believe if smartly deployed it will translate to the pro game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: How Mayfield played in this game is how he played all season long. It is reflective of his body of work. Again, the issue for the evaluators is does his dynamism in college translate to the pro game. I believe if smartly deployed it will translate to the pro game. ...thanks bud......maybe all of these fears and trepidations about the spread, continual shotgun, Air Raid, etc are unfounded.....to me, it ALL depends on what Intel chip a kid has between his ears as far as adaptability.....as far as Mayfield, I'm just a crusty and moldy 'ol poster in year 56 of following this club, stuck here a postin'...McBeane is at OBD for probably $2+ mil a year so ball is in his court...stay tuned bud..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, McBean said: Giants and Broncos take QB’s. Take it to the bank. So noted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thanks bud......maybe all of these fears and trepidations about the spread, continual shotgun, Air Raid, etc are unfounded.....to me, it ALL depends on what Intel chip a kid has between his ears as far as adaptability.....as far as Mayfield, I'm just a crusty and moldy 'ol poster in year 56 of following this club, stuck here a postin'...McBeane is at OBD for probably $2+ mil a year so ball is in his court...stay tuned bud..... I don't want to belabor the topic but the one thing that sticks out when watching him (saw at least four games on TV) is his level of accuracy. Not only does he complete a large percentage of his passes but his ball placement is exceptional. In every game I saw him he was the standout player except for one game. The freshman qb for Georgia in the bowl game reminded me of what a young Tom Brady clone would look like. Again, the issue comes down to whether his college game transfers to the pro ranks. I believe so. Mayfield is not my most preferred qb. I would prefer either Darnold or Rosen ahead of him. If in the end we selected Mayfield I would be ecstatic. Without question the fans of western NY would embrace Mayfield's game and feistiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, JohnC said: I don't want to belabor the topic but the one thing that sticks out when watching him (saw at least four games on TV) is his level of accuracy. Not only does he complete a large percentage of his passes but his ball placement is exceptional. In every game I saw him he was the standout player except for one game. The freshman qb for Georgia in the bowl game reminded me of what a young Tom Brady clone would look like. Again, the issue comes down to whether his college game transfers to the pro ranks. I believe so. Mayfield is not my most preferred qb. I would prefer either Darnold or Rosen ahead of him. If in the end we selected Mayfield I would be ecstatic. Without question the fans of western NY would embrace Mayfield's game and feistiness. ...easy Big Dawg....you're belaboring NOTHING.....not getting to see college ball, I appreciate your insight and assessment...nicely done with my thanks bud..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: So noted. Hillary was supposed to crush Trump. The Russians were supposed to crush us in hockey back in the day. Thanks for info. We shall see soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, McBean said: Hillary was supposed to crush Trump. The Russians were supposed to crush us in hockey back in the day. Thanks for info. We shall see soon. Yeah. That's all relevant to Thursday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah. That's all relevant to Thursday. Exactly. About as relevant as Zig Fracassi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, McBean said: Exactly. About as relevant as Zig Fracassi. Actually it was Adam Caplan who made the comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Actually it was Adam Caplan who made the comment. About as relevant as Adam Caplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, McBean said: About as relevant as Adam Caplan. OK. Let's roll with @McBean He surely knows that the NYG and DEN will take QBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: OK. Let's roll with @McBean He surely knows that the NYG and DEN will take QBs. Ok Corner. We will find out on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Meanwhile, Beane and McD back at headquarters... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdand12 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Meanwhile, Beane and McD back at headquarters... That takes me back !| " Yes Commissioner Gordon, of course! Both myself and Robin take this draft very seriously. Have no fear. we will corral these criminals and make Gotham City safe once again ! " Edited April 22, 2018 by 3rdand12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 hours ago, McBean said: Giants and Broncos take QB’s. Take it to the bank. Going to go broke with that assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre1236 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Wow - six minutes of talking in circles with no actual information being shared. Because none of them know anything more than us at this point. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: Meanwhile, Beane and McD back at headquarters... If Denver, who needs a franchise QB, wants to move out, why do you want that pick for a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: If Denver, who needs a franchise QB, wants to move out, why do you want that pick for a QB? You would think out of anyone in the league, Elway and Kubiak would know what a QB looks like. But look at their track record. It's embarrassing. They have no idea what they are doing when it comes to QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: You would think out of anyone in the league, Elway and Kubiak would know what a QB looks like. But look at their track record. It's embarrassing. They have no idea what they are doing when it comes to QB They have been picking late and taking “swings” at QB like many here say a good franchise should. Neither Osweiler nor Lynch were picked early and were more shots taken on physical talented players rather than high risk gambles early in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Fans start living with the fact that in spite of all our capital it just may not be enough to get that quarterback we want. Too many teams in the market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, kdiggz said: You would think out of anyone in the league, Elway and Kubiak would know what a QB looks like. But look at their track record. It's embarrassing. They have no idea what they are doing when it comes to QB which is why they are sticking with Keenum. They have had too many draft fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Report: Three NFL teams have called Broncos about draft trade https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Report-Dolphins-Bills-Cardinals-have-called-Broncos-about-NFL-draft-trade-117597872/Amp Quote Mike Klis of 9News reported Sunday that the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals have called the Broncos to gauge their interest in trading the No. 5 overall draft selection. Dolphins in the mix of the QB Competition too. No way any of the Big 4 fall past #8, and certainly not to us at #12. Almost looks like the TBD No Trades Mock got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Report: Three NFL teams have called Broncos about draft trade https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Report-Dolphins-Bills-Cardinals-have-called-Broncos-about-NFL-draft-trade-117597872/Amp Dolphins in the mix of the QB Competition too. No way any of the Big 4 fall past #8, and certainly not to us at #12. Almost looks like the TBD No Trades Mock got it right. Nice! Get up there and get your guy Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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