Ga boy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Not happening, they got this draft capitol to draft a QB, period. We filled the holes last year and this year with solid free agents, we will never be a consistent contender without a franchise QB. And so we are only getting one with some kind of a trade up. BB: If we use up our draft capitol on a high-risk rookie QB, we will continue to be beat up by BB. There are no Lucks, Staffords, Rodgers, or Ryans in this draft. Again, hear me now and believe me later, BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 No. I wouldn't do it as giving OBJ a headcase that would be a terrible fit for Buffalo. In a more realistic scenario I would give up three firsts (two this year and one next year) to move up to the #2 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I want nothing to do with that cancer. Wants too much money and is injured all the time and he is a headcase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 10 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I thought about that but we have a third, two forths, a 5th, 6th and two 7th round picks. However we would have our choice of QB, the assumption is we use some of our cap space in 2019 to sign Odell to a long term deal. We would still have picks 56 and 65 to address immediate needs at LB and OT, pick 96 and and 4th to get a 2nd LB and G, then our 5th, 6th and 7th for slot corner, DT and RB. An offense of Benjamin and Beckham with Jones in the slot, Clay at TE, McCoy in the backfield, Ivory getting touches to spell Shady and an offensive line with added depth to go with a solid D with two LB's added along with a slot corner and I'll roll into Foxboro with a fighting chance. We went into foxboro with a fighting chance and would have taken the lead.....with Tyrod Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 If you look at the Eli's stats with and without OBJ on the field you begin to appreciate his value. He would help our rookie QB. I really dislike the guy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 No, we have too many holes to fill. Trade up if it's possible but don't give up the farm for it. None of these Qb's have Andrew Luck like talent. Take the best Qb available at whatever position you're drafting at and fill in the other holes on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Was thinking about ways to make a dynamic improvement in the 2018 Buffalo Bills. Here is my trade offer. Bills offer pick 12, 22, 53, 1st and 2nd 2019 picks for Giants 2nd pick and Odell Beckham Jr. Would you make this offer and would the Giants be interested. Assuming Cleveland takes Josh Allen, who would you select at pick number 2? Giants wouldn't be interested. Not enough value there for both the #2 and Beckham, IMHO. I'd love to get Beckham, but I just don't see the financially conservative Beane bringing in his contract. 10 hours ago, NoSaint said: Does he covet draft picks or did he covet ammunition to get a qb? He covets both. He does covet draft picks, though, that won't be able to be used to move up for a QB. Look at how he's already working on maximizing next year's comp picks. But yeah, they've moved up mostly to get their trade cache. 10 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: What the deal would break down would be: 12, 22 and Next Years First (slight overpay by Buffalo) 53 and next years 2nd for Odell, Giants now would have 4 picks in the top 53 this year, crazy draft capital in 2019, dump Odell's salary and can do a full rebuild next year with 8 picks total in rounds 1 & 2. Bills get their franchise QB, two WR's in their prime and a young slot receiver. A chance to keep building their roster with the remaining picks Pick 56 - Malik Jefferson - LB Pick 65 - Brandon Parker - OT Pick 96 - Shaqueem Griffin - LB/S hybrid 4th Round - Fred Warner LB 5th Round - Justin Jones - DT 6th Round - Taylor Hearn - G 7th Round - Holton Hill - CB Yeah, if you look at it as two separate trades, it makes things clearer. The tradeup for the #2 would be a slight overpay ... in a market which demands large overpays for moving up to the top five. Looked at in terms of what teams have to pay to move up that high, this wouldn't be an underpay. And then two seconds for Odell would be ... IMHO an underpay. I think they're going to demand a 1st and more for Beckham if he goes. I don't think they'd consider it. That's my opinion anyway. If we could do it and if I were GM, I would. I don't think the Giants would be interested, partly for the reasons above and partly because if they don't pick a QB early, I think they're going to go all in on trying to win a title with Eli in the next couple of years, which would include keeping Beckham unless the deal was extraordinarily sweet. And at #12, they wouldn't be able to get one of the top four QBs or Barkley or Chubb. So they'd want a very rich haul indeed, IMHO. Edited April 6, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I'd prefer to stay at 12 or make a small move up rather than going all the way to #2 honestly. And I have absolutely zero interest in trading anything of legitimate value for Odell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I don't want that kid on our team. Only a matter of time before he actually gets busted for drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Ga boy said: BB: If we use up our draft capitol on a high-risk rookie QB, we will continue to be beat up by BB. There are no Lucks, Staffords, Rodgers, or Ryans in this draft. Again, hear me now and believe me later, BB. All these guys are equivalent to them and can be franchise QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 16 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Was thinking about ways to make a dynamic improvement in the 2018 Buffalo Bills. Here is my trade offer. Bills offer pick 12, 22, 53, 1st and 2nd 2019 picks for Giants 2nd pick and Odell Beckham Jr. Would you make this offer and would the Giants be interested. Assuming Cleveland takes Josh Allen, who would you select at pick number 2? Yep I would offer it. and be IMMEDIATELY laughed at by the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 IMO the Giants would not take that deal. ODB's asking price would proably be 2 1sts just by himself, meaning they are only getting one 1st and two seconds to drop to 12 and 22. I think that IF there is a trade up, the cost is going to be so obscene it will shock people. It could take 12, 22, 2019 1st, and both second rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 No. Two reasons , one too much and two don't want him even near my team even though his talent is exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 How about the Giants just give us #2 for the trouble of taking him off their hands. That guy is heading for a lengthy suspension and it will probably be sooner rather than later. Their is no way this brain trust trades for this player.....ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: All these guys are equivalent to them and can be franchise QBs. I would agree that 1or 2 but not all; but we don't know which 1 or 2 do we?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 No. I don’t want OBJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 20 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Was thinking about ways to make a dynamic improvement in the 2018 Buffalo Bills. Here is my trade offer. Bills offer pick 12, 22, 53, 1st and 2nd 2019 picks for Giants 2nd pick and Odell Beckham Jr. Would you make this offer and would the Giants be interested. Assuming Cleveland takes Josh Allen, who would you select at pick number 2? ...someone should be fired for it............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 OBJ is a headcase, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Ga boy said: I would agree that 1or 2 but not all; but we don't know which 1 or 2 do we?? I know doing nothing will guarantee we fail, getting a QB at least gives us a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 way too much the bills are giving up i would do it in a heartbeat.......with or without OBJ extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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