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Mills  WAS NOT upset about the TT benching-- he is just not a good football player at all. TT hides the fact that Mills sucks cuz he only looks at one read then runs out of the pocket,  and again-- like others have said-- if the Bills brass knew of him lettign defensive players get past him-- they would have sideline him for the season and or cut him after the season

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16 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Nobody will ever convince me that the OL didn't throw that game.

 

Uh huh. Presumably they threw the Jets game too, right? I wonder if we can "convince you" to explain why Taylor was under immediate and brutal pressure continually throughout that game. Also : What's your take on the o-line and the Kennedy assassination? Do you think all five of them were lurking behind the grassy knoll?

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1 minute ago, grb said:

 

Uh huh. Presumably they threw the Jets game too, right? I wonder if we can "convince you" to explain why Taylor was under immediate and brutal pressure continually throughout that game. Also : What's your take on the o-line and the Kennedy assassination? Do you think all five of them were lurking behind the grassy knoll?

 

I can see that you disagree.  I respect that.  Have a great day, man.

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The beautiful thing about the question of whether Mills’ horrible play was intentional sabotage or lack of talent/effort is that the ultimate answer is the same: Replace and cut him. 

 

For what it’s worth, it sure seemed intentional. 

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3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

1) it was the dumbest decision in the entire nfl season to bench Taylor st that point and I’m not a Taylor fan.  Lucky for McD, Andy Dalton saved him from being second guessed the entire offseason.

 

2) Mills kinda sucked anyways.  

 

3) This alleged stuff happens more than you think. But Peterman was solely responsible for one of the worst starts in nfl history.

 

I fully agree. Those games with 60 yards passing really proves that Tyrod is one of the best.

 

 

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Something was definitely off about that game. 

 

Not only did the offensive line let the Chargers D tee off on Peterman all game but the receivers couldn't get an ounce of seperation all game. It's like nobody gave any effort at all and wanted to sabotage Peterman. Even Tom Brady would've had a brutal game if he was in there.

 

And Mills isn't that good but that was far and away his worst performance and it did look like he was purposely sabotaging Peterman. I remember watching the offensive line the next several weeks with TT back in there and the protection was far better. 

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s not why he got benched, that’s why a lot of Bills fans don’t like him. Those aren’t interchangeable.

 

He got benched because Dennison thought his garbage offense would improve. He pushed for the move and McDermott went along. It lasted a half, failed in epic fashion and Dennison was fired. There are no conspiracies needed to cover for that scrub. He got a chance and sucked worse than any player ever has in the 1st half that he ever played!!

He got benched because he was not good enough in 3 of the 4 prior games.  

 

here's one of them    33.6 and 3 lousy points.  

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s not why he got benched, that’s why a lot of Bills fans don’t like him. Those aren’t interchangeable.

 

He got benched because Dennison thought his garbage offense would improve. He pushed for the move and McDermott went along. It lasted a half, failed in epic fashion and Dennison was fired. There are no conspiracies needed to cover for that scrub. He got a chance and sucked worse than any player ever has in the 1st half that he ever played!!

Jeez Louise, your criticism of Peterman is not only scathing and brutal, but almost seems personal.  Now he's a scrub??  

 

I will readily admit that I don't possess close to yours or 26's football knowledge. I'm assuming both of you played college ball, as I did, for Pitt, thus my somewhat biased opinion for Mr Peterman.  But I swear it feels like I watched something completely different then you, and heck, alot of others.  I was quick to point out I don't believe that Mills, nor any other member of the team would go as far as to sabotage a fellow player, endangering their life and at the same time hurting the team's chances of a W.  But I most certainly don't think Peterman got much help from the line, or from DiMarco COMPLETELY giftwrapping Peterman's first pick.  Yes, he did play poorly in that game.  And that half of football you saw enough of him to say, "yep, he's awful.  Zero chance in hell he ever amounts to anything."??  Did he not look at least decent in your opinions against the Colts before getting hurt?  What is it about him, a Buffalo Bill currently btw, that makes you call one of our own, a scrub??  

 

Also, I gotta ask, you think many Bills fans did not like Tyrod because he's black??  A fan-base that had to endure a 17 year playoff drought, who is so desperate for a great QB that several Bills fans will sadly perish before the draft even gets here from massive heart attacks because they couldn't take the waiting and their hearts exploded?  Maybe I have blinders on or something, but I don't believe the majority of fans disliked Taylor because he was black.  They disliked Taylor because he just wasn't good.

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3 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:

Something was definitely off about that game. 

 

Not only did the offensive line let the Chargers D tee off on Peterman all game but the receivers couldn't get an ounce of seperation all game. It's like nobody gave any effort at all and wanted to sabotage Peterman. Even Tom Brady would've had a brutal game if he was in there.

 

And Mills isn't that good but that was far and away his worst performance and it did look like he was purposely sabotaging Peterman. I remember watching the offensive line the next several weeks with TT back in there and the protection was far better. 

 

Come on man!

 

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1 hour ago, xRUSHx said:

COT working hard in this thread. I would just like to say.....hey hey hey Goodbye

 

Projection (Psychological)

1) An unconscious self-defense mechanism characterized by a person unconsciously attributing their own issues onto someone or something else as a form of delusion and denial.
 
 
"Projection" can't be any more clearer than this. Here we have an entire thread on a wackadoodle conspiracy theory to excuse Peterman's hidious play.
That is cult-like behavior at it's most extreme, delusional, and bizarre.  

 

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1 minute ago, smuvtalker said:

Jeez Louise, your criticism of Peterman is not only scathing and brutal, but almost seems personal.  Now he's a scrub??  

 

I will readily admit that I don't possess close to yours or 26's football knowledge. I'm assuming both of you played college ball, as I did, for Pitt, thus my somewhat biased opinion for Mr Peterman.  But I swear it feels like I watched something completely different then you, and heck, alot of others.  I was quick to point out I don't believe that Mills, nor any other member of the team would go as far as to sabotage a fellow player, endangering their life and at the same time hurting the team's chances of a W.  But I most certainly don't think Peterman got much help from the line, or from DiMarco COMPLETELY giftwrapping Peterman's first pick.  Yes, he did play poorly in that game.  And that half of football you saw enough of him to say, "yep, he's awful.  Zero chance in hell he ever amounts to anything."??  Did he not look at least decent in your opinions against the Colts before getting hurt?  What is it about him, a Buffalo Bill currently btw, that makes you call one of our own, a scrub??  

I’ve called him a scrub for a while. He’s way closer to scrub than potential starter!! He played THE WORST HALF OF FOOTBALL AN NFL QB HAS EVER PLAYED in his 1st try!! Think about that. We didn’t defend Tuel or Brohm or Brown or anyone like this and they were all WAY better when given the chance. It’s not personal at all; it is real. It is the truth. 

 

I thought that he was okay vs. the Colts and made a few good throws. However, his accuracy was way overstated, his arm strength isn’t good enough and his pocket presence is terrible. He gets rushed, makes poor decisions and doesn’t have the arm to overcome them. He certainly didn’t get help from DiMarco (who is also overrated) but there was another potential pick 6 that a DB dropped in that game. 

 

I thought when they drafted him that Peterman had a chance to be the long-term number 2. That was a good use of a 5th round pick IMO. He was never going to be the guy but that’s fine. It is an important position that he was filling (see: Foles, Nick).

 

At the moment I think he’ll be lucky to be on a roster. If the Bills take a guy early Peterman will be a distant 3rd on the depth chart and a waste of a roster spot. That isn’t uncommon though. The Saints cut Grayson after a season and he was a 3rd. The Jets could have (and should have) cut Sackenberg after a year. If a guy stinks, he stinks. 

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4 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

i wouldn't doubt the op and i do remember this going around. i never wanted mills to start the season. if he is on this team this year it will amazingly be what.....5 or better years since this team has done anything with that position? other than henderson, i can't even remember who our last rt was?  pears?   ....and is juan still here? does dabol have authority over line coaches?.....guess that's another subject.

 

Not only is Juan still here there was an article stating that one of our FA OL pickups was MOTIVATED to come here cuz of ole Juan!!!!  Sorry if this has already been pointed out but I was FLOORED by that....

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1 hour ago, Kaenon said:

Firstly, good post and appreciate your hard work.

 

Secondly, even just from remembering watching the game live last year I can recall vividly, how Mills was not even trying.

Watch the play linked to above in which Tyrod is strip sacked by Bosa in the second half. You may rethink your view.

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It's funny I was just watching "Blue Chips" last night starring Nick Nolte as a coach who paid college players to attend his school. There was a scene where he was told one of his players got paid for point shaving several years earlier. In total denial, he sat with his assistants and rewatched the game in question until there was no doubt a player was turning the ball over on purpose.

 

After what is rumored to have happened to Derek Carr earlier this year, I have no doubt players would let their QB out to dry (especially if there is a racial divide), but more likely in this case is that Mills got approached by some wise guys from Vegas who offered to double his meager NFL salary if he turned into a turnstile against the Chargers. They knew Peterman wouldn't be able to handle that kind of pressure in his first start. 

 

Just my thoughts. And that it's more common than everyone would like to believe ;)

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7 hours ago, #34fan said:

Gotta admit...The O-line did look bad for Nate's series... Could also be that the D was motivated by the presence of a rookie...

 

Bossa was on fire when we played them, he was crushing olines for weeks before he ate ours for lunch.

 

Mills was awful all season, but some of this looks really bad.

 

If there is truth to this it's a bad look for Mills.

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