26CornerBlitz Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Jesus christ you are quick! Not really. That's a tweet from almost two hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not really. That's a tweet from almost two hours ago. It was just so coincidental - I had just saw it on twitter and was like oh it's not on TSW yet and boom there you are! I suppose I should be working though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Why are you guys still pretending that this comes true? It's NOT going to happen. Tweets belong on Twitter Pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Why are you guys still pretending that this comes true? It's NOT going to happen. Tweets belong on Twitter Pages you've really been going all in on this anti-tweet thing.... impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: you've really been going all in on this anti-tweet thing.... impressive. Twitter is for Twits so yeah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Twitter is for Twits so yeah well I don't have twitter. but I don't mind one bit seeing it on here when it pertains to discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-GM-for-food Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Send a package deal for the #2 pick and OBJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Will-GM-for-food said: Send a package deal for the #2 pick and OBJ? The cocaine in Buffalo may not be to his standards. But it's a thought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: well I don't have twitter. but I don't mind one bit seeing it on here when it pertains to discussion. I don't have twitter either and there is a good reason for it. it's more often trash than not. Back on topic. The Giants need this pick. They are not giving it up to the Bills @ 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Send Joe Webb's package and our whole draft the next 3 years for OBJ and the number 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I don't have twitter either and there is a good reason for it. it's more often trash than not. Back on topic. The Giants need this pick. They are not giving it up to the Bills @ 12 I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Right now we just need to get to #4 then take things from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Right now we just need to get to #4 then take things from there. Either #4 with CLE or even #6 with IND would get them closer to make a deal with the NYG more palatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Either #4 with CLE or even #6 with IND would get them closer to make a deal with the NYG more palatable. Ugh. I just hate the idea of doing something mutually beneficial with the Colts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Ugh. I just hate the idea of doing something mutually beneficial with the Colts right now. Not me. I'd be focused on the end goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not me. I'd be focused on the end goal. I mean, I agree. But still. Eff those guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Right now we just need to get to #4 then take things from there. Checkout Matt Miller's latest mock I posted it on the main page. He just might be right. Number 6 in the ticket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I think the Giants at 2 and Browns at 4 would be unwise to trade down, but I want them to. I think we'll trade into 6 if the Broncos pass on a QB. But yeah, eff the colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, NickelCity said: I think the Giants at 2 and Browns at 4 would be unwise to trade down, but I want them to. I think we'll trade into 6 if the Broncos pass on a QB. But yeah, eff the colts. Realistically if we walk out of the draft with one of the 4 top QBs and all we need to give up is 12 / 53 / 56 (and maybe getting back a ~4th), I'm VERY happy. If our QB hits and the Jets doesn't it's even better. It would be kind of funny to see the Colts pick 5 times in round 2 (plus again near the top of round 3). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, NickelCity said: I think the Giants at 2 and Browns at 4 would be unwise to trade down, but I want them to. I think we'll trade into 6 if the Broncos pass on a QB. But yeah, eff the colts. Don't think the Colts are trading #6 if Chubb is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Is Gettleman getting his fans ready for the trade down? That's what i read out of this Quote Guys, this is the second pick in the draft,” Gettleman said. “We really have to picture this guy putting on a gold jacket. Because if we can’t picture that, really . 1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/27/dave-gettleman-seeking-generational-player-with-second-pick/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Is Gettleman getting his fans ready for the trade down? That's what i read out of this http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/27/dave-gettleman-seeking-generational-player-with-second-pick/ I read this more as BPA, but I see why you could take that away. Unfortunately (and I appreciate the article) it doesn't really move the excitement needle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 THE DEBRIEFSmoke Screen Alert! What to Believe Gregg Rosenthal attempts to see through the smoke screens after coaches, GMs and owners addressed the media at the NFL Annual League Meeting. Here's what he says you can believe, and what you can't trust.Bills GM Brandon Beane on potentially trading up: "I know that's the speculation. ... We really have a lot of discussions with a lot of teams about all sorts of things. ... Right now, we're just focused on 12. We're excited. Excited to be at 12, and I think we're going to get a really good player there."No one expects that the Bills will ultimately pick at No. 12 overall when the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft actually arrives on April 26. Armed with a raft of draft picks and a burning need at quarterback, Buffalo could be in no man's land, with so many teams at the top of the draft also searching for a signal-caller. Maccagnan strangely admitted this week that the Jets didn't attempt to trade up to the No. 2 overall pick with the Giants, allowing a team like the Bills, Broncos (who pick at No. 5) or Dolphins(No. 11) to possibly move up to the position that Giants GM Dave Gettleman currently owns. The top four quarterbacks in this class are expected to go quickly, possibly within the first five picks. The subterfuge and strategy that will play out in the meantime will be the most fascinating subplot of the coming month. The biggest shock would be if teams like the Bills didn't aggressively move up to draft their guy, which is why Beane's comment can't be taken too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magox Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Quote Maccagnan strangely admitted this week that the Jets didn't attempt to trade up to the No. 2 overall pick with the Giants, allowing a team like the Bills, Broncos (who pick at No. 5) or Dolphins(No. 11) to possibly move up to the position that Giants GM Dave Gettleman currently owns. That is what truly never made too much sense to me. Why would you trade for the #3 spot so far away from the draft when there are two other teams that could target your guy? The only way this makes any sense is if they value the top 3 guys to be very similar with near equal chances of being franchise QB's. Which that in itself doesn't make too much sense to me either if I were in the shoes of an NFL QB prospect evaluator. But who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2018 NFL Draft: Bills GM would trade 2019 1st round pick to move up “We’ll do anything we can to make our roster better. I’m not locked in that I would or I wouldn’t. It would have to make sense and be a player that we really felt strongly about to do that.” https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/26/2018-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-2019-first-round-pick/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Giants Approach with 2nd PickPosted by Chris Brown on March 28, 2018 – 3:14 pm NY Giants GM Dave Gettleman has a pretty pivotal pick in the 2018 NFL draft with the second selection overall. He’s said he’s open for business, but the general consensus is if Gettleman does trade out of the second pick, he doesn’t want to move down much. Gettleman appeared on the Adam Schefter podcast this week and explained how he’ll look at pick two overall if he in fact makes his pick there.Gettleman referenced the time when he was a scouting intern with the Bills under GM Bill Polian and how it has influenced him as a GM making draft choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 see the thread on the Bucs GM willing to deal at pick 7. give them 12 and 56 for the 7th pick and then from there I think the Giants are more likely to listen to offers knowing they only fall back to 7 and can still most likely get one of the top 3 positional players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, kdiggz said: see the thread on the Bucs GM willing to deal at pick 7. give them 12 and 56 for the 7th pick and then from there I think the Giants are more likely to listen to offers knowing they only fall back to 7 and can still most likely get one of the top 3 positional players Bucs and Giants just made a deal a week ago so they obviously have a working relationship. Get Beane, Gettleman & Licht in a room. Give the ransom to Gettleman, Licht gets a nice little bonus to move from 7 to 12, Giants get Nelson or Fitzpatrick as a worst case scenario and are in position for a slight move up for Barkley or Chubb. Edited March 28, 2018 by Chuck Wagon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck Wagon Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If they traded down with us AND traded Odell they could have a staggering amount of draft picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Magox said: That is what truly never made too much sense to me. Why would you trade for the #3 spot so far away from the draft when there are two other teams that could target your guy? The only way this makes any sense is if they value the top 3 guys to be very similar with near equal chances of being franchise QB's. Which that in itself doesn't make too much sense to me either if I were in the shoes of an NFL QB prospect evaluator. But who knows? I'll try to find the link but Bowles said they like about 6 or 7 guys at #3 http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/75427/smokescreen-or-faulty-strategy-jets-todd-bowles-discusses-no-3-pick\ "We have about six or seven of them on our list that we kind of like," he said. "We have a good idea who will be there. As we get closer to the draft, we’ll zero in and try to narrow it down a little bit" Sounds kinda silly to me but what do I know? Edited March 28, 2018 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: If they traded down with us AND traded Odell they could have a staggering amount of draft picks. The have to decide if they are in rebuild or win now mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: If they traded down with us AND traded Odell they could have a staggering amount of draft picks. Just saw that - it would be a staggering way to rebuild their team...as long as we got #2 of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 IF the Bills move up to #2 you can pretty much count on 3 QBs and Barkley coming off the board in the 1st 4 picks. Then, either Denver takes a QB or there is a frantic bidding war to get that pick in a trade, which means another QB. So we get to pick #6 with Barkley and 4 QBs off the board. Pretty much the entire non-QB draft is still sitting there at #6. They could probably use some of that capital to move up themselves with the Colts at #6 or anywhere between #7 and #10, depending on how the draft goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The have to decide if they are in rebuild or win now mode. I think it's more of a 1) "how committed are we to Eli" and 2) are Chubb or Barkley the "hall of fame" talents Gettleman keeps quoting? If the answer is no to both questions, then I think you hold the pick ransom for the most possible you can return. Is Chubb worth Edmonds + potentially a high pick in 2019 that could be a player like Bosa / Oliver / Gary + potentially #22 / and 2 (if not 3) of 53-56-65? Is Barkley worth an impact player at 12 + Guice + a 2019 1st + 2-3 more picks? If you decide one of the QBs can handle a seamless handoff from Eli, by all means no package is worth moving out. But if you decide Eli has 3 more years and you still believe in Davis Webb, it's tough to say any 1 position player is worth all you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Here it is again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Here it is again! Don't delay, make the trade today! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Is Cleveland going to make him the NFL's highest paid player? Because he's not stepping on the field otherwise. Any trade needs to come with a long term contract ready to be signed Edited March 28, 2018 by kdiggz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I am sure they are each others' frequent call lists: Beane: How is your golf game? Gentlemen: Good since I got new clubs! Beane: Sounds great! How about you trade your source for mine on paint guns? Gentlemen: Deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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