Steptide Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Obviously with Tyrod gone, we only have Peterman left. My guess is the bills will draft a qb high AND sign a vet qb Which makes me wonder, do they automatically start a high drafted rookie, start the vet as a bridge or have an all out qb competition? Personally, I hope they have a competition. While I want whoever they draft to be our long term future, I also want to play the best qb this year. What say you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Let them battle it out. May the best man win. If it's the rookie great if not don't throw him in there and potentially destroy his career. Edited March 11, 2018 by Zebrastripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Its def gonna be a competition. There will be no 'day one starters off the bus' type of bs. Let the best QB win! If we draft Rosen or Mayfield they will def win the starting job in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Its def gonna be a competition. There will be no 'day one starters off the bus' type of bs. Let the best QB win! If we draft Rosen or Mayfield they will def win the starting job in camp. I agree, but I also know how coaches are with high draft picks and could see whoever we draft being the starter, even if not fully ready. We know McDermott is thorough though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Russell Wilson won his QB competition over Tarvaris Jackson and.. Deshawn Watson lost his to Tom Savage. Lets hope they evaluate it correctly either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) I think it’ll be like Chicago last year. Let the vet play a few games, once he throws a couple picks throw the rookie in. Sink or swim B word ”B word”? Really. That’s totally lame Edited March 11, 2018 by Seanbillsfan2206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Depends on who the bridge guy is. If it's Foles, they may just go forward with him as the intended day 1 starter, only allowing the rook to steal it if he has a Russell Wilson-like rookie preseason. Don't know enough about Daboll to really make any call yet. Edited March 11, 2018 by ProcessTheTrust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Without knowing the players involved there's no way to answer this question. This thread is at least four days too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steptide said: I agree, but I also know how coaches are with high draft picks and could see whoever we draft being the starter, even if not fully ready. We know McDermott is thorough though No young qb is ever fully ready — if you believe a guy is worth going to the top ten he is immediately starter unless you made a mistake. If we stay put then it’s a competition with a slightly stacked deck (close and the rookie plays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I think it’ll be like Chicago last year. Let the vet play a few games, once he throws a couple picks throw the rookie in. Sink or swim B word ”B word”? Really. That’s totally lame Meh, I'm not find of that approach. I feel like teams who do that are often really bad, like Chicago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think there's always a competition. Maybe some expectation bias comes into play occasionally, but the only time there's not a competition is when the winner is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Steptide said: Meh, I'm not find of that approach. I feel like teams who do that are often really bad, like Chicago. I’m not a fan either. But any vet that comes here is going to want to start I’d think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think you leave it open to a competition. Unless you pour a lot of funds into that vet QB. Don't spend big on a vet QB if you think he can't win a competition over Peterman and a Rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Without knowing the players involved there's no way to answer this question. This thread is at least four days too early. I agree that it's way too early to tell. Sign Cousins for $27 million or commit to someone like Keenum for more than one year and there won't be a competition. Anything less and I'd expect competition that's tilted against the rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Meh, I'm not find of that approach. I feel like teams who do that are often really bad, like Chicago. Fox was a crappy coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Meh, I'm not find of that approach. I feel like teams who do that are often really bad, like Chicago. Worked pretty well for Deshaun Watson, until he broke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I would guess that it would be a competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 No, Foles starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, mead107 said: No, Foles starts Make that Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold or Allen starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: Make that Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold or Allen starts! I would be fine with mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zebrastripes said: Let them battle it out. May the best man win. If it's the rookie great if not don't throw him in there and potentially destroy his career. Letting a QB sit doesnt do anything but keep them from experiencing what they need to so they can become better. The only thing that can destroy a QB's career is if they were never meant to be a NFL QB in the first place. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsos cap Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 As it should always be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Letting a QB sit doesnt do anything but keep them from experiencing what they need to so they can become better. The only thing that can destroy a QB's career is if they were never meant to be a NFL QB in the first place. No way. Sitting allows a qb to learn the nuances of the NFL. If a guy isn't mentally ready to play the game then you're just going to destroy him not develop him by putting him into start day 1. I believe you can teach the mental aspect of the game where as you cannot teach the physical aspwct of the game. So if the rookie has all the physical tools but is struggling with reading a defensive coverage or the terminology of the offense letting him sit and learn these thing would be way more beneficial than throwing him to the wolves. I feel like this does happen to guy which just slowly destroys them over time. Edited March 11, 2018 by Zebrastripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsos cap Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 There will be a competition. The key is don’t latch onto false positives. Start your bridge, die on that bridge if you have to. Come out next year commanding the afc if you got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 no, so sick of years after years of fake compititions start the 1st round pick, give him the vast majority of camp reps and most of the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 If they trade up, I could see a guy like Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield starting year 1. I could also see them holding onto picks 21 and 22 and taking whoever falls to them, then grabbing a guy like White on day 2. That gives them, perhaps a better chance of finding a long term solution. The plot thickens! I'm genuinely surprised that we got pick 65 for Tyrod too. He's going to have a solid supporting cast in Cleveland also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Good grief! Can we draft a guy 1st? How can this be answered before then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Clearly that's what McDermott is going to say... yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 hours ago, gobills1212 said: Good grief! Can we draft a guy 1st? How can this be answered before then? How can it not? I can't think of any qb we can sign in free agency or draft that could be automatically the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Zebrastripes said: No way. Sitting allows a qb to learn the nuances of the NFL. If a guy isn't mentally ready to play the game then you're just going to destroy him not develop him by putting him into start day 1. I believe you can teach the mental aspect of the game where as you cannot teach the physical aspwct of the game. So if the rookie has all the physical tools but is struggling with reading a defensive coverage or the terminology of the offense letting him sit and learn these thing would be way more beneficial than throwing him to the wolves. I feel like this does happen to guy which just slowly destroys them over time. Hopefully the Bills don't make that mistake again and pick a QB by your description will be nothing more then a career backup. In the NFL you either get it or you won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: Hopefully the Bills don't make that mistake again and pick a QB by your description will be nothing more then a career backup. In the NFL you either get it or you won't. Rodgers and Jimmy G. we're both lower graded qb prospects. Both of them sat and learned the nuances of the game. Look where they are at now far from a backup qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: Rodgers and Jimmy G. we're both lower graded qb prospects. Both of them sat and learned the nuances of the game. Look where they are at now far from a backup qb. They would have been fine if they started immediately. Both were forced to be behind HoF QBs... The Bills don't have one of those. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: They would have been fine if they started immediately. Rodgers was behind HoF Favre... How can you say this with such certainty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Zebrastripes said: How can you say this with such certainty? No different then you saying sitting helped. Hell coaches try to sit the rookies but they end up getting shoved in ASAP b c sitting does nothing in reality. The only way to get better is to actually play the game, learn the speed of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 The only guy we have on the roster had one of the all time worst games as a qb ever. If there's not a competition something is extremely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: No different then you saying sitting helped. Hell coaches try to sit the rookies but they end up getting shoved in ASAP b c sitting does nothing in reality. The big difference is you cant ruin a guy by letting him learn as much as he can in a back up role. You most certainly can ruin a guy by starting him prematurely. Edited March 11, 2018 by Zebrastripes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Zebrastripes said: The big difference is you cant ruin a guy by letting him learn as much as he can in a back up role. You most certainly can ruin a guy by starting him prematurely. A QB can only ruin himself if he was never meant to be a starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: A QB can only ruin himself if he was never meant to be a starting QB. We have to agree to disagree on this topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: No different then you saying sitting helped. Hell coaches try to sit the rookies but they end up getting shoved in ASAP b c sitting does nothing in reality. The only way to get better is to actually play the game, learn the speed of the game. Completley disagree with this. Some players need to sit and learn. A lot come from offenses that don't translate to the pros or have issues with their footwork or throwing motion. Throwing a guy in that isn't ready can ruin a player. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Completley disagree with this. Some players need to sit and learn. A lot come from offenses that don't translate to the pros or have issues with their footwork or throwing motion. Throwing a guy in that isn't ready can ruin a player. . Will only ruin them if they were never meant to be a starter in the first place. Throughout these guys lives they hire coaches to get them ready for the NFL. By this time in their life they are either ready to face NFL or they aren't. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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