******* Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Chris Ivory has been one of the worst running backs in football over the last two years, averaging 3.6 yards per carry while producing more fumbles (seven) than touchdowns (five). It's no surprise he was cut by the Jaguars, but it's more difficult to... espn.com/espn/now?nowId… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nice. Good choice as the #2 RB. He complements Shady very well as a power back. 4th string running bk averaging 3.6 yds per carry the last 3yrs gonna be 30yrs old next season. He fits right into the old man bks they love these guys. The worst thing bout this is they didn't believe Gillislee was worth this same money basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Virgil said: So, not Tolbert? I’m in Tolbert is or shall soon be A FA if what I read is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: 4th string running bk averaging 3.6 yds per carry the last 3yrs gonna be 30yrs old next season. He fits right into the old man bks they love these guys. The worst thing bout this is they didn't believe Gillislee was worth this same money basically. Ha, was he? We also got a pick out of Gillislee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: IF ONLY we had him with 1st & Goal vs Jacksonville........ And if Seattle only had Lynch in the Superbowl... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: I remember ivory, Bilal Powell and the other RB that they had at the time, that was scary. Was it the Arizona RB? Thomas? Thomas Jones? Edit: I see now someone already answered it above Edited March 6, 2018 by Bray Wyatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: 4th string running bk averaging 3.6 yds per carry the last 3yrs gonna be 30yrs old next season. He fits right into the old man bks they love these guys. The worst thing bout this is they didn't believe Gillislee was worth this same money basically. He hasn't been 4th string, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. He fits a role on this team and represents an inexpensive upgrade from Tolbert. They? This is an entirely different front office headed by Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Not a fan of this signing, can he block ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ivory was not very impressive last year. Still an upgrade compared to Tolbert but not feeling too excited about it. Definitely overpaid for him imo, I think better options will sign for less. Blount signed for 1.3 last year after scoring 18tds. This is kind of a headscratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Ha, was he? We also got a pick out of Gillislee Matt Milano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, 707BillsFan said: I don't get this fumble issue. If you have the rock in your hands, chances are something CAN happen. Ivory has fumbled 18 times in his career. I know he's been a PT back pretty much all that time. I just happened to pull up two RB's to see how many fumbles they had in their careers...Thurman and Emmitt. Thurman had 50, Emmitt, 62. For the life of me, I don't recall anyone ever complaining about their ability to hold onto the ball. BTW...Jim Brown, 57 times. Chris Ivory: 19 fumbles on 1206 touches (1112 carries + 94 receptions) - 1.57% fumble rate Thurman: 50 fumbles on 3349 touches (2877 carries + 472 receptions) - 1.49% fumble rate Emmitt: 61 fumbles on 4924 touches (4409 carries + 515 receptions) - 1.24% fumble rate If Emmitt had fumbled at Ivory's rate, he would've had 77 fumbles in his career instead of 61. (Only about 2-3 fumble difference for Thurman.) I also checked on a couple other RBs that came to mind: LeGarrette Blount: 1.22% fumble rate Antowain Smith: 1.30% fumble rate Fred Jackson: 1.69% fumble rate Marshawn Lynch: 1.07% fumble rate LeSean McCoy: 0.84% fumble rate (!) I generally agree that it's not THAT big a deal. But I think it's a valid criticism, because fumbles are a lot easier to overlook if they're backed up by HOF production. Much harder to swallow for a guy who's getting you 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Edited March 6, 2018 by Cash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: I wonder if this means we won't draft someone to be the future. I don’t think it means that at all. Teams should have a stable of 3 good RB’s. They can still draft someone like Freeman in the 3rd to potentially take the reigns. Ivory and McCoy are up there in age. Good signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Always enjoy the range of reactions to a new signing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: To be fair, there's a good chance Rex would have also been able to get him since he is a former Jet and Rex loved them The Bills have been making some moves jumping on the pre FA signings Good gawd man - that comment about WRECK made me shiver.......so glad that blowhard CLOWN CAR and his idiot brother are FIRMLY in our rearview mirror! Agree on the decent moves so far for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: I don’t think it means that at all. Teams should have a stable of 3 good RB’s. They can still draft someone like Freeman in the 3rd to potentially take the reigns. Ivory and McCoy are up there in age. Good signing though. I like it too. Bills should still add a back in the draft. Let him learn behind a few vets. Don't want some rookie missing a blitz pick-up on Rosen's blindside next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I agree with most people that we are probably going to pick up a late rounded to go in. It sounds like Ivory's contract is front loaded and contract driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Cash said: Chris Ivory: 19 fumbles on 1206 touches (1112 carries + 94 receptions) - 1.57% fumble rate Thurman: 50 fumbles on 3349 touches (2877 carries + 472 receptions) - 1.49% fumble rate Emmitt: 61 fumbles on 4924 touches (4409 carries + 515 receptions) - 1.24% fumble rate If Emmitt had fumbled at Ivory's rate, he would've had 77 fumbles in his career instead of 61. (Only about 2-3 fumble difference for Thurman.) I also checked on a couple other RBs that came to mind: LeGarrette Blount: 1.22% fumble rate Antowain Smith: 1.30% fumble rate Fred Jackson: 1.69% fumble rate Marshawn Lynch: 1.07% fumble rate LeSean McCoy: 0.84% fumble rate (!) I generally agree that it's not THAT big a deal. But I think it's a valid criticism, because fumbles are a lot easier to overlook if they're backed up by HOF production. Much harder to swallow for a guy who's getting you 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Fred sucked, why did we keep him around. Great stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Ha, was he? We also got a pick out of Gillislee Really want to compare. U think 4th string bks that are 30yrs old are worth 3mil guranteed. Your boy Beane got fleeced these guys keep proving over and over that he they are horrible evaluators when it comes to offensive Football. Ivory is at best a 3rd string bk at this point in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Commonsense said: No not at all. It's not about upgrading Mike Tolbert it's about getting better. I'd rather see Cadet get 3rd down snaps than Ivory. He isn't dependable with the football in has hands. How do we know Cadet will not be back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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