Mango Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 We see it every single year. Guys end up showing up to the combine and put up huge measurables. Moving from the 4th to the 2nd round, etc. That said, scouts are watching tape on these guys all year long. Are there any major success stories of guys moving way up draft boards suddenly, then killing it in the NFL? Or should we be wary of rising combine stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 always be wary of combine stars.... ALWAYS game tape don't lie. the only thing the combine should be used for IMO is to find the tie breaker differences between closely rated players 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 First person that comes to mind was that running back from University of Arizona who dominated the combine, 40 in particular....but wasn't any good. He was taken in the 2nd round and didn't do squat in the NFL. Can't remember his name. Bruce Campbell dominated the combine a few years ago. He was an offensive tackle from Maryland was taken earlier just because of his measurable s. He's in the CFL now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Campbell_(gridiron_football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 ...Vernon Gholston- 6'3" and 266 lbs; 6th overall and started 3 games....bust......... 40 Yard Dash: 4.68 seconds 40 Yard (MPH): 17.48 (MPH) 20 Yard Dash: 2.67 seconds 10 Yard Dash: 1.56 seconds Bench Press: 37 reps (225 lb) Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50) QB Ball Velocity: (N/A) (MPH) Vertical Leap: 35.5 inches Broad Jump: 125 inches 20 Yd Shuttle: 4.40 seconds Shuttle Split: (N/A) seconds Three Cone: 7.12 seconds 60 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) seconds Four Square: (N/A) seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Dontari Poe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Yeah i looked at Barkleys combine and thought... meh? He already looked fantastic on film and was a consensus top RB, and possible top 10/top 5 guy. In his case, the combine could lower his value if he performed poorly, but he was already a fantastic prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: First person that comes to mind was that running back from University of Arizona who dominated the combine, 40 in particular....but wasn't any good. He was taken in the 2nd round and didn't do squat in the NFL. Can't remember his name. Bruce Campbell dominated the combine a few years ago. He was an offensive tackle from Maryland was taken earlier just because of his measurable s. He's in the CFL now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Campbell_(gridiron_football) I'm fairly certain his last name was henry and he was taken by TENN even though they had plenty of talent in the backfield already..... and that was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Mike Mamula always comes up in this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mango said: We see it every single year. Guys end up showing up to the combine and put up huge measurables. Moving from the 4th to the 2nd round, etc. That said, scouts are watching tape on these guys all year long. Are there any major success stories of guys moving way up draft boards suddenly, then killing it in the NFL? Or should we be wary of rising combine stars? Watt and Donald maybe? But they were already like.. top prospect guys coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Inversely, anyone kill their draft stock at the combine. Like Orlando Brown from Oklahoma. Doesn't let up a sack I think, then has historically bad combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 the NFL Combine is a worthless event that the NFL has successfully turned into a money grab. The combine proves that these guys are indeed athletes, which we already knew. Kudos, NFL, kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Didn't our very own Aaron Maybin wow Skeletor and Russ at the 2009 Combine? We all know how that turned out. Just say no to smurfs on defense in the first round ... and maybe the second as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, SoTier said: Didn't our very own Aaron Maybin wow Skeletor and Russ at the 2009 Combine? We all know how that turned out. Just say no to smurfs on defense in the first round ... and maybe the second as well. Maybin was actually pretty blah at the combine, did a little better at his pro day. Just terrible evaluation through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Mike Mamula always comes up in this conversation. as a BC guy, this is the first one that popped into my head. if i remember correctly, he hired a high end trainer, (maybe an olympic trainer) who helped him on the specific drills of the combine. he crushed it, and had a meh career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 There are a few things a "combine" type event would be useful for, beyond viewing game tape. A sit-down, face-to-face interview would be a very helpful tool in player selection. I can also see the value in getting definitive measurements on height, weight, hand size for skill position players, etc. Beyond that, the combine is kind of a waste of time, which is why most of the people there "watching it" seem to be yawning, looking away, and doing other things (if you watched any of it on NFL network!). No one seems to be paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Leon Sandcastle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The Mike Mamula talks always come up around now... as a combine warrior who rose through the draft rankings and then busted but going back to his draft year scouts knew who he was and had him as an early pick. It was media who freaked out about the combine and made it seem like he was a late riser everyone I know who was scouting at that time said his combine was crazy... but that he was gonna go in the first regardless , that he was underrated at BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The Mike Mamula talks always come up around now... as a combine warrior who rose through the draft rankings and then busted but going back to his draft year scouts knew who he was and had him as an early pick. It was media who freaked out about the combine and made it seem like he was a late riser everyone I know who was scouting at that time said his combine was crazy... but that he was gonna go in the first regardless , that he was underrated at BC He also had a pretty decent career... certainly disappointing for a #7 overall pick, but people act like he was just worthless. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MamuMi20.htm 8 sacks in year 2 (as a 16-game starter on a 10-6 team), 8.5 sacks in year 5 after missing year 4 with a knee injury. I'm not sure why he stopped playing after 6 years (doesn't seem to be injury related), but he was an okay player during that time. I'd gladly take him over Aaron Maybin or Erik Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Julio Jones. His career has been pretty good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: First person that comes to mind was that running back from University of Arizona who dominated the combine, 40 in particular....but wasn't any good. He was taken in the 2nd round and didn't do squat in the NFL. Can't remember his name. I believe you are thinking of Beanie Wells. Chris Henry is also a possibility and who the other poster is referencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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