CEN-CAL17 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) I like a few others on here feel the Bills will try to trade down into the 2nd using one of their first to gain more picks. Cleveland has picks 35 & 63 in the 2nd round. The value of those picks line up enough with our 22nd overall. I would love to have picks 21, 35, 53, 55 & 63. You sell it to Cleveland by saying “would you rather have 5 picks in the top 63... or 4 picks in the top 33?” That’s damn near 4 1st round picks. But imagine if the Bills could fill there needs and have 5 picks in top 63.... Edited January 28, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 When you say fill needs - I assume you mean starting players? That would be a tough thing to accomplish although I certainly understand the meaning of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I don't think this will be sorted out until the combine and more prospect interviews are completed. If I had to guess based on reports the Bills are looking at 4 players very seriously at draft slots 25-55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 It's always nice to create your own trade partners. Cleveland has enough picks and they will just stay where they are at, or trade down. They won't be trading up. It will tough to move back from 22 in this draft. Talent just isn't there. Lots of players are the same grade I think there is a better chance we package both 2nds to move into late 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, White Linen said: When you say fill needs - I assume you mean starting players? That would be a tough thing to accomplish although I certainly understand the meaning of your post. There are enough holes/needs on this team where more than likely 3 of those picks would be starters. But for example say they pick a a RB with one of them. Is he gonna start? Probably not, but is a solid RB2 a need? Yep 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: It's always nice to create your own trade partners. Cleveland has enough picks and they will just stay where they are at, or trade down. They won't be trading up. It will tough to move back from 22 in this draft. Talent just isn't there. Lots of players are the same grade I think there is a better chance we package both 2nds to move into late 1st. It’s all hypothetical and in fun... Yes that could happen. I just think this FO is more of a Pats draft style of valuing picks. Edited January 28, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Unfortunately no one knows the mindset of Beane and McD and what they wish to accomplish at this point. Heck, they might not even know yet. They have proven themselves, especially McD in pin pointing scheme specific talent in the later rounds such as Dawkins and Milano. Do they trade up for their guy or sign a FA vet? Do they stay put and draft 2 blue chip players like a stud LB, DT or WR? Trade down as you suggest and stock pile players and hope you get quality starters? IMO, I see a FA/Trade (3rd Rounder) vet like Smith or Bradford and draft someone to compete with Peterman. Draft a stud DT/LB with our 1st and trade down with our 2nd first rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If a top QB falls to 21, no way I trade down. With 22 after we take our QB? Yeah, I might trade down. If the right QB fell out of the top 10, I'd trade UP. But at the end of the day, I'd be OK if we just stay at 21 and 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Unfortunately no one knows the mindset of Beane and McD and what they wish to accomplish at this point. Heck, they might not even know yet. They have proven themselves, especially McD in pin pointing scheme specific talent in the later rounds such as Dawkins and Milano. Do they trade up for their guy or sign a FA vet? Do they stay put and draft 2 blue chip players like a stud LB, DT or WR? Trade down as you suggest and stock pile players and hope you get quality starters? IMO, I see a FA/Trade (3rd Rounder) vet like Smith or Bradford and draft someone to compete with Peterman. Draft a stud DT/LB with our 1st and trade down with our 2nd first rd pick. as you mentioned, we really do not know how these guys are looking at their process heading into this season. I expect conservative drafting in the first. But would not be surprised if they would finagle to find someone they were high on after 22-23. another Tre White might be nice. or stack the picks by shifting down just a tinch. who are the Bills friendly with these days? beside the andy reid Chefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I like a few others on here feel the Bills will try to trade down into the 2nd using one of their first to gain more picks. Cleveland has picks 35 & 63 in the 2nd round. The value of those picks line up enough with our 22nd overall. I would love to have picks 21, 35, 53, 55 & 63. You sell it to Cleveland by saying “would you rather have 5 picks in the top 63... or 4 picks in the top 33?” That’s damn near 4 1st round picks. But imagine if the Bills could fill there needs and have 5 picks in top 63.... To me if we can't land Mayfield or Darnold then I want 5 picks in the top 63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Ittakestime said: It's always nice to create your own trade partners. Cleveland has enough picks and they will just stay where they are at, or trade down. They won't be trading up. It will tough to move back from 22 in this draft. Talent just isn't there. Lots of players are the same grade I think there is a better chance we package both 2nds to move into late 1st. So you are saying no teams will trade up with the bills because there is no talent to trade for but the bills are gonna trade up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Sure looks like they are pushing the Mayfield want. Might be smoke. Keep what we have and go for five starters in the first five picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wait and see how the chips fall on draft day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I like a few others on here feel the Bills will try to trade down into the 2nd using one of their first to gain more picks. Cleveland has picks 35 & 63 in the 2nd round. The value of those picks line up enough with our 22nd overall. I would love to have picks 21, 35, 53, 55 & 63. You sell it to Cleveland by saying “would you rather have 5 picks in the top 63... or 4 picks in the top 33?” That’s damn near 4 1st round picks. But imagine if the Bills could fill there needs and have 5 picks in top 63.... I know you're using a hypothetical and all but I'll say Cleveland takes a QB, who realistically are they going to trade up for? I think another poster said this but I'm going to guess it's alot easier trading up then it is to trade down just for the fact that at 21/22 there has to be players that a team can't live without and aside from QB's in this draft I Just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) If anything i think they will move up in the first. I dont see them trading down from 21 or 22 Edited January 28, 2018 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If we don’t go get a QB, I would be all about trading back from one of our 1sts. Ideally, I’d trade for another first in next years draft. With teams getting their WB this year, we’d have less competition to trade up in next years draft. If not, we will need more picks this draft to build around our lack of QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Direhard Fan said: Sure looks like they are pushing the Mayfield want. Might be smoke. Keep what we have and go for five starters in the first five picks. There is going to be a lot of misdirection by teams between now and the draft. People need to get used to that concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I'd consider trading one of the 1sts to move down all the way to a #1 for next years draft, plus maybe pick up a 2nd and maybe 4th this year, and have two #1's next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 5 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I like a few others on here feel the Bills will try to trade down into the 2nd using one of their first to gain more picks. Cleveland has picks 35 & 63 in the 2nd round. The value of those picks line up enough with our 22nd overall. I would love to have picks 21, 35, 53, 55 & 63. You sell it to Cleveland by saying “would you rather have 5 picks in the top 63... or 4 picks in the top 33?” That’s damn near 4 1st round picks. But imagine if the Bills could fill there needs and have 5 picks in top 63.... And if you can do that, then I trade 35 down 7-10 spots and pick up an extra third and maybe something next year. Then you can trade 53 down 6-8 slots and pick up another 3rd especially since you have 55. You end up with a first, 4 seconds and 3 thirds and maybe an extra pick or two in '19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 4 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: as you mentioned, we really do not know how these guys are looking at their process heading into this season. I expect conservative drafting in the first. But would not be surprised if they would finagle to find someone they were high on after 22-23. another Tre White might be nice. or stack the picks by shifting down just a tinch. who are the Bills friendly with these days? beside the andy reid Chefs just using history as a guide. Bills will only dump players onto teams for draft picks who are playoff or Super Bowl bound. They have not figured out the advantage of for EX: a Browns high 2nd round pick and a Eagles low 2nd round pick for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 We have plenty of high picks already this year. I don't think I would trade down unless I was getting something for next year. How many rookies do you really want in 1 year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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