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Saints loss and fundamental football


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Just now, gobillsinytown said:

I've been watching pro football for a long time also.  This was one of the few games where my jaw just dropped.  I thought the game was over and almost turned it off because I thought the Saints had the game won.  Glad I stuck around.

I feel bad for the safety though.......his career with the Saints may be over.   

 

Salute! I was kinda numb and jaded after 7 hours on the couch, the first game was surprisingly interesting the whole game as well.

 

 

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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Saints lose in the last play because a DB lowers his head and throws a shoulder instead of actually tackling a guy.

 

One thing I liked about our D: the DBs played good fundamental football.  Wrapped up on guys.

That's what I thought when I saw that.  

 

Actually my first thought was Belichick's guys know what their job is. Second thought was McD's guys know.  It gave me a warm feeling. 

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

the refs had nothing to do with this guys brainfart.  neither did the rulebook.  These guys were mugging the WRs all  night.  

 

You think this guy went to the sideline and thumbed through the rulebook before that play and laid off?

 

No, but I think before they took the field the coach yelled at them "whatever you do, don't draw the flag.  No PI got it you *@3!?  No PI!"

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5 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Saints lose in the last play because a DB lowers his head and throws a shoulder instead of actually tackling a guy.

 

One thing I liked about our D: the DBs played good fundamental football.  Wrapped up on guys.

This simply showed a poorly coached team...Players not understanding what they need to do there...All he need was to push the player out of bounds or tackle inside.  Game over. 

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9 minutes ago, ganesh said:

This simply showed a poorly coached team...Players not understanding what they need to do there...All he need was to push the player out of bounds or tackle inside.  Game over. 

 

Push Diggs OOB and they kick the FG to win the game. Time expired as he crosses the goal line. They needed to tackle him in bounds for time to expire.

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2 minutes ago, transient said:

 

Push Diggs OOB and they kick the FG to win the game. Time expired as he crosses the goal line. They needed to tackle him in bounds for time to expire.

He meant push him out of bounce so he doesn't get two feet in I'm sure.  Good teaching example for every safety.   "Whatever you do, don't do that."

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23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

He meant push him out of bounce so he doesn't get two feet in I'm sure.  Good teaching example for every safety.   "Whatever you do, don't do that."

 

If you watch where Diggs comes down with the ball, he’s easily 2 yards in bounds. Williams would have had to catch him in midair and throw him WWE style out of bounds for him not to come down in bounds with the ball. 

26 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Here's the thing.  I think he knew he was there early (would have been pass interference) and pulled up.  

 

Certainly looks like he mistimed it and would have been there early. Unfortunately he compounds it by taking out Crawley, who’s the only other Saint in the vicinity who may have had a chance to make the play. 

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13 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Saints lose in the last play because a DB lowers his head and throws a shoulder instead of actually tackling a guy.

 

One thing I liked about our D: the DBs played good fundamental football.  Wrapped up on guys.

 

 

Yeah it’s an unbelievable play.  The only possible explanation other than sloppy technique is that maybe for some reason the DB thought he was going to be hit by someone else and was trying not to get hurt or draw a penalty.  Was it a possible “defenseless hit on a receiver?”  This seems like a stretch but it’s a possible explanation.  

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14 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Not about early. About where they can TGT the WRs. DBs are moving their aimpoint lower because of the head shot flags 

 

Whats the excuse for not using his arms/hands...? Even holding a foot there will prevent him from getting out of bounds.

55 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

Yeah it’s an unbelievable play.  The only possible explanation other than sloppy technique is that maybe for some reason the DB thought he was going to be hit by someone else and was trying not to get hurt or draw a penalty.  Was it a possible “defenseless hit on a receiver?”  This seems like a stretch but it’s a possible explanation.  

 

I could see jumping up for a deflection and missing or something trying to play the ball there.  But you let him catch it - all you had to do was tackle him!  

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14 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Saints lose in the last play because a DB lowers his head and throws a shoulder instead of actually tackling a guy.

 

One thing I liked about our D: the DBs played good fundamental football.  Wrapped up on guys.

 

 

 

 

Understood, but you know there was a 3 game slide where our tackling was absolute dismal play.

Good to see that McD fixed that down the stretch.

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9 hours ago, transient said:

Wait, what?  The Saints lost?  Why have I been spending time trying to grasp the moral from their win? I’m so confused... :huh:

 

not bad.... minor chuckle and thanks.

 

he clearly was hoping to go out of bounds with 2 on the clock for the winning FG.

 

but hey, strike while the iron is hot.

 

 

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1 hour ago, dneveu said:

 

I could see jumping up for a deflection and missing or something trying to play the ball there.  But you let him catch it - all you had to do was tackle him!  

 

 

I am not in disagreement at all with your point.  I was simply trying to find a plausible explanation for the situation that involved something other than poor technique.  At the end of the day, the DB’s failure to wrap up for whatever reason was a colossal mistake.

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