reddogblitz Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: When Zay was at 32 attempts he had 12 uncatchable balls. So he was 12-20 which is 60% Hotrod has thrown him a lot of uncatchable balls. But that doesn't excuse not catching the ones that hit you in the hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Jerry Rice recently spoke about Zay Jones on the radio. He said he had the same problems and he worked it out during the offseason. Zay will be fine. How many passes were to WR today? There was a grand total of 4 catches from WR's today. Most teams will have had that many catches from one guy. Singling out one pass where it was batted away isn't right. Zay from what i can tell lets the game come to him versus going for it. He needs to be more aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 bills moved up in draft to take zay. traded their 44th (2nd) & 91st (3rd) for the rams 37th (2nd) & 149th (5th) Pit took juju smith shuster at 62 (2nd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, papazoid said: bills moved up in draft to take zay. traded their 44th (2nd) & 91st (3rd) for the rams 37th (2nd) & 149th (5th) Pit took juju smith shuster at 62 (2nd) Looks like they came out ahead. And I've said everything that I can say about Jones. Every "what about" argument people have brought up ends up falling flat and easily dismissed by facts & statistics. Jones has been awfully bad, not "needs a couple more years" bad. Like I posted above, when comparing his play to other receivers, they all started off superior to him, all caught far more passes, all made better use of their limited play time, and all had a higher hill to climb. The ONE thing he should be able to do is catch the ball, everything else is something you can learn. He hasn't been able to. It's fair to call him a bust so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Looks like they came out ahead. And I've said everything that I can say about Jones. Every "what about" argument people have brought up ends up falling flat and easily dismissed by facts & statistics. Jones has been awfully bad, not "needs a couple more years" bad. Like I posted above, when comparing his play to other receivers, they all started off superior to him, all caught far more passes, all made better use of their limited play time, and all had a higher hill to climb. The ONE thing he should be able to do is catch the ball, everything else is something you can learn. He hasn't been able to. It's fair to call him a bust so far. Really hmmm same number of Drops as Zay. Also has loads of talent around Ju Ju and a legit QB throwing him the Ball notice how Goodwin and Woods seem to have great seasons. Ooo yeah might have something to do with who is throwing them the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I've seen enough from him that I still have hope he'll pan out. We'll see in the next year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Wait until next season once Tyrod is gone and someone who can pass is throwing the ball. Tyrod throws a crappy ball 95% of the time. It comes at weird angles and velocity its like trying to hit a change up pitch. Its called the Tyrod slider, the defenders cant even intercept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Can a second round pick in his 1st year with really no QB be considered a bust. also where are you getting your drop numbers from? here he has 2. Leader has 8 https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/buffalo-bills-team-stats?season=2017&week=0&category=RECEIVING two here as well. Hopkins has three by the way http://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=AFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year= Not in top 11 here either hmmmmm http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=nfl&rank=232&type=Receiving&year= So where are you getting he is top 10 in drops Or is it just making something up??? The major dropping atomic elbows on the incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 hours ago, westerndecline said: Here's the difference Zay has shown flashes of greatness.... Im waiting til yr two When was this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Agenda? How does Zay do when a real passer throws a ball to him? Lets say Peterman because he is years ahead of Taylor on throwing a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Foreigner said: Talking about going nowhere, 32,552 posts. Sorry, it is what it is, and if Zay Jones is your favorite player, good luck. I said he is a bust NOW after 14 games. Who knows how his Pro career will turn out, but after 14 games he is not cutting it. Give him 3 years, give Tre White 3 years, give Milano 3 years, blah blah blah. I agree with the poster. As of game 14, zay zay is a nay nay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Sorry but he sucks. Either you can catch a ball or you can't. Edited December 18, 2017 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Foreigner said: Maybe he did well in college because he didn't have Pro CBs and Ss ready to knock him to the ground once he caught the ball. Bingo, he may never be able to cut it in the NFL, which would be considered a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: While I'm not a TT hater, I agree with this. Tyrod has had problems getting balls to WRs throughout his tenure with the Bills. Part of the problem is that our WR corps hasn't been great and has often suffered more than it's fair share of injuries. But part of the lack of production is on TT too. Zay does kind of have the look of a bust so far. But you have to give him the benefit of the doubt: he's a rookie on an offense that doesn't use its WRs very effectively. This part is false. Watkins, Woods, Goodwin and Hogan have all been lighting it up with their new teams since they left. Add in Clay and McCoy out of the backfield and you actually have one of the better receiving groups in the league. They were injured a lot of the time however, so that's a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The worst play he had this year was not continuing his route into the endzone at the end of the Carolina game when he saw the safety was late getting over. According to Donald Jones this is basic WR play, you only cut the route short if the safety bites early which he clearly didn't. Tyrod put the ball right where it was supposed to be but Zay had stopped and the ball was too high for him. We are a 9 win team right now if not for that mistake. Jones was nice about it on the radio but he implied that is something you learn in high school as a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, wppete said: Stop it. He is not a bust. Stop it. He is absolutely invisible on the field because HE CAN’T CATCH! Period. These last 2 games have been among the most critical 2 game stretch this century, and he has been COMPLETELY invisible. What does it take for McDermott -and You- to get this through your heads?? There are better receivers on the active roster. Sit this washout and play somebody who can help the team be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: The football hit him in the freakin' hands. NO QB will ever be able to throw him a more perfect pass than that. He cost us the Carolina game. If you're gonna be a playoff team, you GOTTA catch those. He is a bust TFN. That can change, but as of now, with a capital B. And ones that hit you in the hands evidently. Let me say .. I was stoked when we drafted him ... as my daughter goes to ECU so I saw many of his games and I am disappointed in his play this year ... but not ready to label a bust ... secondly I was in the end zone at that Carolina game with him running right at me that throw was long ... it would of been a hell of a catch. The Carolina game was lost due to a BS offensive pass interference call, a missed facemask against Shady all on final drive ... and zero offense all game long (it was a damn soccer match) .. all kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 everyone's a bust in Buffalo, until of course they leave and excel elsewhere. perhaps Bills fans should give a rookie for than 3 months of play before making that judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 he's not a bust.....yet he is off to a very unimpressive start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Bust is, to me, forever. He is a major disappointment right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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