CommonCents Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 "a bust right now" A bust is what a player is called once it's decided they are never going to live up to expectations. Zay has been a dissapointment but it's a bit early to start throwing around the B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) How soon people forget the game he missed 1 or 2 of 9 passes. in PRIOR games Edited December 18, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 10 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Hard to catch passes that are out of bounds or knocked away by defenders. Drops are only scored as balls that hit the receiver's hands. And it's part of the pro game that defenders will, well, defend, and WR have to win the battle for the ball. 10 hours ago, Foreigner said: Talking about going nowhere, 32,552 posts. Sorry, it is what it is, and if Zay Jones is your favorite player, good luck. I said he is a bust NOW after 14 games. Who knows how his Pro career will turn out, but after 14 games he is not cutting it. Words work because people assign them the same meaning. For most football fans, "Bust" means "we know how his pro career will turn out and he will irreclaimably suck". So if you really mean "who knows how his pro career will turn out, but his rookie campaign has sucked", you might want to choose another word 10 hours ago, Lurker said: Moulds caught 54% of the balls targeted to him in his rookie year (only 37 throws, BTW). Jones at 37% is just abismal... Moulds: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoulEr00.htm Jones: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneZa00.htm To the point I made earlier, Moulds was targeted 37 times and started 5 games his rookie year, and 54 times and started 8 games his 2nd season. Those seasons, he was #3-4 on the WR depth chart. He was not thrust into the #1 role (because there was no one else) and who knows how he would have done if he were? I don't get the point of the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He has two drops. Two. Lets not make it out like he cant catch a cold. Do you mean all season long Zay only has 2 drops? Or you mean in yesterday's game alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Do you mean all season long Zay only has 2 drops? Or you mean in yesterday's game alone? Did he have a drop yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 10 hours ago, bobobonators said: 14 games does not a bust make. It does here it appears....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Bust is a little hard and some what premature. I would say he has had a disappointing season. You cannot blame the QB's either as he has had three different ones Tyrod, Petermen and Webb tossing the pigskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Power 5 school USC vs East Carolina. How about we give him some development time before fragging him. Or does that ONLY apply to the QB position? I'm not totally giving up on him, I just don't see much reason for optimism. He looks like just a guy out there. He's not big, he's not fast, he doesn't really separate. Where's the upside? His skill set doesn't suggest he'll be anything more than a #3 or #4 receiver. I don't see many starter traits. Edited December 18, 2017 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Zay is not a bust yet but he obviously has to improve tremendously next year. Because this year wasn't close to being good enough, rookie or not 43 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He has two drops. Two. Lets not make it out like he cant catch a cold. Now i do admit that i am concerned about making contested catches. Those have to come and i also think that is something that can be worked on. Get out of his own head. See Nelson Angholer (sp) Two drops? Who is keeping track of that statistic, his mom? Edited December 18, 2017 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Jones will be a good WR. He just needs time to develop It usually takes 2 to 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did he have a drop yesterday? unfortunately 2 were called drops. One was well defensed. The idiot announcers had to point out he is the worst in the league. I am not arguing that but they could have stated his stats over the last month in comparison. and I say idiot because she called Shady for a short gain on a near 2 yard LOSS Edited December 18, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 11 hours ago, Foreigner said: This game could have been put away much earlier if Zay Jones, who at one time was called our #1 WR didn't drop a throw that was on the money. I thought I heard the announcer on the telecast say he has been targeted 60 times this year with 25 receptions, and for anyone targeted over 50 times this year, he has the most drops of anyone in the NFL. That is pathetic for a 2nd round pick #37 in the 2017 draft. You can talk all you want about Watkins, Woods or Goodwin, but they all have been more productive. But but but it's Tyrod's fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: unfortunately 2. One was well defensed. The idiot announcers had to point out he is the worst in the league. I am not arguing that but they could have stated his stats over the last month in comparison. and I say idiot because she called Shady for a short gain on a near 2 yard LOSS I don't consider the well defensed play a drop....especially since it was knocked out by a hand. What was the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: unfortunately 2. One was well defensed. The idiot announcers had to point out he is the worst in the league. I am not arguing that but they could have stated his stats over the last month in comparison. and I say idiot because she called Shady for a short gain on a near 2 yard LOSS Lol and called Tyrod, McCoy. I believe her quote was something like: "McCoy gets out of trouble, throws it downfield, and completes it to McCoy"... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I'll give you this... he's probably the most disappointing rookie from this draft class. Other than that, we have a lot to be happy about looking forward at the rest of the class. Tre White, Milano, Dawkins... hopefully contributors on this team for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, teef said: i'm never ready to call any first year player a bust. a lot can change. we've seen guys right the ship after a year or two, and we've seen guys have great rookie years, only to fizzle out. people want so bad to label as fast as they can for some reason. You must not remember Aaron Maybin. Zay "Hands Like Stones" Jones Edited December 18, 2017 by Badthingsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Do you mean all season long Zay only has 2 drops? Or you mean in yesterday's game alone? All season. 44 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Zay is not a bust yet but he obviously has to improve tremendously next year. Because this year wasn't close to being good enough, rookie or not Two drops? Who is keeping track of that statistic, his mom? Posted three official sites. How many you have to dispute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: You must not remember Aaron Maybin. Zay "Hands Like Stones" Jones so...what i said isn't true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: unfortunately 2. One was well defensed. The idiot announcers had to point out he is the worst in the league. I am not arguing that but they could have stated his stats over the last month in comparison. and I say idiot because she called Shady for a short gain on a near 2 yard LOSS And yet the official stats show zero drops hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Way too early to label him a bust. He's definitely had some struggles, but he's also made some nice plays. If he's still dropping this many passes after 2 full NFL seasons, it will start to look more like a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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