billsfan_34 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 11 hours ago, Dkollidas said: Not true: “As Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk notes, the Redskins would be highly unlikely to use the franchise tag again in 2018 as it would come with a 44% raise over his 2017 salary, meaning they would have to pay Cousins a $34.5 million salary. Instead, the Redskins could use the transitiontag. That comes with a 20% raise and would bump his salary to $28.8 million.” so while its not likely, Washington does have the option. Your right- up to 3 times- at one point I remember it only being 2. My bad- Happy Thanksgiving!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 so you don't trust them to make decisions but you want them to draft guys? wouldn't they just waste picks? so far these guys have done a solid job in one draft and off season with poyer and hyde. brees lost a ton of games cause he couldn't elevate his team by himself. now he's got the defense and run game helping him out and they are winning again. sign cousins...absolutely nail those first 5 picks and we got a squad. if they can get two free agents like hyde and poyer say...lb and dt? we will be on our way to wins. cousins throwing for 4500 yards. defense with young talent and on our way to winning as a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 53 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so you don't trust them to make decisions but you want them to draft guys? wouldn't they just waste picks? so far these guys have done a solid job in one draft and off season with poyer and hyde. brees lost a ton of games cause he couldn't elevate his team by himself. now he's got the defense and run game helping him out and they are winning again. sign cousins...absolutely nail those first 5 picks and we got a squad. if they can get two free agents like hyde and poyer say...lb and dt? we will be on our way to wins. cousins throwing for 4500 yards. defense with young talent and on our way to winning as a team. And this is the intriguing scenario. You've stockpiled the picks, and if you have a good draft you have a pretty good storehouse of young talent come 2019. So if you have the cap space to sign a Cousins, isn't that a better constructed team c. 2019 than an unproven quantity at QB and a lack of draft talent around him? I'm not saying it's the thing to do, but it's certainly not irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Exactly, you sign cousins who is a top level QB in the league (although not elite, he is in the top tier) and then use the draft to fill out the rest of the holes. Problem is everyone is stuck on this idea that you have to draft in the top few spots to get an elite guy. Unfortunately there are very few actually elite guys that are ever available, and your more likely to get a bust or at best a guy who could be a top tier guy around Cousins level picking a QB in the 1st. We have guys here already using Watson as an example of a player able to elevate an entire team and he hasn't even played a full season yet. Maybe he looked that way because the previous guys were garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) On 11/23/2017 at 9:39 AM, CanadianFan said: Cousins is better for teams ready to compete for 10 win seasons. He's a bit like Tyrod+. He is capable of winning a few games if your supporting cast is very good. He isn't capable of elevating a team to another level like Deshaun Watson did with Texans. And right now we don't have the supporting cast, after Brandon Beane & McDermott started giving away our young talented players to other teams for nothing. We are left with a bunch of old guys ready to retire in a year or two. And we gotta replace them too! This wasn't a rebuild job. This was a frickin ruin the franchise job. We're crap again after their gifts to other teams. and now we gotta build talent back up again. Just draft a good young QB along with getting better coaching staff. After seeing the way their hires have performed, I am now skeptical of the judgement of McDermott and Beane. Their ability to evaluate and distinguish talent. They have not shown that they have made good decisions in so many instances. It began with coaching hires. And came the idiotic trades. And mid-season benching that didn't have team support. Kelvin Benjamin was a "my bad" let me make it up to you trade by Beane. It's like bringing flowers to your wife after she found out you've been cheating on her all along. Cousins will only add to frustrations. Yes team will be better, but he won't bring us more wins. Just keep drafting till we find one. ....as will his $30+ mil price tag with a multitude of holes to fill.......utilizing draft capital and developing those players will take time.....$30+ mil limits FA options but there's no guarantee that money spent there ends up being fool's gold.......... Edited November 24, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 They are looking for long term success not instant gratification. Build a championship contender year in and year out, not a few year first round knockout. Fans just gotta be patient with the regime but...I forgot I'm talking to Bills fans haha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Cousins has turned out to be better than I thought but something underwhelms me about him. Plus, he seems like a huge dork. I would tather draft draft a guy than spend mega money on a slightly above average NFL starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 when it comes to QB play......a bird in the hand (sure thing Cousins) is better than 3 in the bush (risk of draft choices ). Free Agent Cousins at $30 mil/yr is a no brainer. you still have all those draft picks to fill other holes. why package 2 firsts to move up and hope you hit on the guy ??.....then have little left to fill other needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Grab Cousins or Alex Smith if available, while simultaneously drafting a QB early to sit on the bench for a few years. Best to try in every way you can to get that franchise player than to be content playing wait-and-see. Hell, even when the Redskins traded the farm to move up and draft RG3, they still drafted another QB in that same draft - Kirk Cousins. So even though they hoped and wanted RG3 to be their future, they didn't just settle on being done and backing themselves into a corner. They still continued to try and improve the position, and it paid off. The Bills should be doing everything in their power to improve the potion in every possible way. If that means using a 1st round pick on a QB while also spending big money in FA for one, so be it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senth Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Pegula family get ready to spend. Kirk Cousins would be my target. Developing (rookies) young QB's is not a strength that we currently possess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 How about AJ McCarron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 11/19/2017 at 9:40 PM, aceman_16 said: Would we have the upfront money to do this? Interesting thought though.. I like the thought. I do. and if were possible, i would approve of pursuing him . But Bills still have no WRs no O line that is showing he would have some solid protection from a "Peterman moment" or 16 of them. No one is coming here worth a darn. I would be pretty alright with Cousins though. Who's the OC in Washington.. On 11/24/2017 at 3:15 PM, papazoid said: when it comes to QB play......a bird in the hand (sure thing Cousins) is better than 3 in the bush (risk of draft choices ). Free Agent Cousins at $30 mil/yr is a no brainer. you still have all those draft picks to fill other holes. why package 2 firsts to move up and hope you hit on the guy ??.....then have little left to fill other needs. This is why i am pleased we now have the like and thanks button. another quality opinion. each sentence makes sense to me On 11/24/2017 at 2:50 PM, Buffalo30 said: They are looking for long term success not instant gratification. Build a championship contender year in and year out, not a few year first round knockout. Fans just gotta be patient with the regime but...I forgot I'm talking to Bills fans haha I appreciate your side of the coin as well 30 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Senth said: Pegula family get ready to spend. Kirk Cousins would be my target. Developing (rookies) young QB's is not a strength that we currently possess. ...overpriced and overhyped poster boy for mediocrity.....tag AGAIN, he's IT................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 12:03 AM, Bakin said: Does anyone realize the Cousins led Skins have a worse record than the Tyrod led Bills?? Because everything is linear in the NFL? Cousins > Taylor. Anyone who can't see that needs to find a new sport to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Because everything is linear in the NFL? Cousins > Taylor. Anyone who can't see that needs to find a new sport to watch. Sure. That's clear. How much better? Highest paid player in the NFL type better? i don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I like the thought. I do. and if were possible, i would approve of pursuing him . But Bills still have no WRs no O line that is showing he would have some solid protection from a "Peterman moment" or 16 of them. No one is coming here worth a darn. Actually, if they resign Matthews and he can stay healthy, a wr group of him, Benjamin, Jones, and some of the rest of the guys they have is not that bad a group. Bringing in someone like Cousins at QB allows them to not have to package half their draft to get someone who might amount to nothing and have to start right away. They can then use all their picks to upgrade a lot of other spots that need upgrading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/19/2017 at 10:15 PM, Luka said: With all the holes and all the "dead cap" money, we couldn't afford to sign a guy like that and fix anything else wrong with the team. He would have to be Tom Brady to even think about winning with this current roster. Hey, that's a great idea. Let's sign tom...nevermind. Gotta go through the draft. All the incentive in the NFL is built on getting your own guy in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 With all of the Cousins discussions today and yesterday brought on by Dunkirk Don's reported "insider information" that the Bills are in the Cousins game if he makes it to FA, ESPN posted this graphic: This obviously does not tell the whole story, but as we can Tyrod a few slots down - he runs when he doesn't need to and holds the ball too long and has amazing escapability - but Kirk is more the pocket passer - which IMHO means this graphic is more important to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just go get Captain Kirk. Still pissed we passed on both Russell Wilson and the Captain and moved up to pick TJumptomakeacatch Graham, who is currently a Montreal Alouette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 11/25/2017 at 6:43 PM, Bakin said: Sure. That's clear. How much better? Highest paid player in the NFL type better? i don't think so. He isnt going to be the highest paid player in the NFL though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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