BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, JM2009 said: It's a lot different. We have the sixth seed now, with games against the Chargers, Colts and Miami. 8-8 could be enough. Much different. Last year at this time, 6 AFC teams had above .500 records. Today, 6 AFC teams have above .500 records. 8-8 will never be enough. Every year someone says it could be enough and it never is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Interesting take by Schein. Adam Schein is a dope. Most of the media are bozos. No idea is the move will work but one thing that was certain was that’s Taylor was way too limited to do anything significant. He is what he is, .500 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 We had the 5th seed before the KC fiasco when we were killing them passing the ball and Taylor got amnesia and forgot Sammy was on his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, dubs said: Adam Schein is a dope. Most of the media are bozos. No idea is the move will work but one thing that was certain was that’s Taylor was way too limited to do anything significant. He is what he is, .500 QB. His point is that he's an upgrade over Bortles and with the Jags D they'd be much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It's not that much different from last year. Way way different........just before the jets game there was an excitement that we havent seen in a while with this team.......with Rex's team last season we were just watching the train wreak of a defence sputtering out wieek in and week out.......it was bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Perk71 said: 25-37, 325 yards, 3 TDs, 0 int Man, that is truly wishful thinking, especially because Bills will be facing Bosa and Ingram. So, let’s be a bit conservative, also a Rookie’s best friend is a good running game. So, how about 19-28, 234 yds, 1 TD 1Int, but because of his use of WCO, running game breaks 100 yds again, and they get 2 rushing TDs and a FG, so 24 points. Edited November 16, 2017 by BigBuff423 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, JPP said: Way way different........just before the jets game there was an excitement that we havent seen in a while with this team.......with Rex's team last season we were just watching the train wreak of a defence sputtering out wieek in and week out.......it was bad... We actually won 4 games straight with Rex's team. Time flies, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Gutsy move. We'll see how it turns out. But it's really the lines that have to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, jmc12290 said: We actually won 4 games straight with Rex's team. Time flies, huh? Guess you didnt watch the games than.....you must of loved the rob ryan hire.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, JM2009 said: Just don't want to miss a solid opportunity to be the sixth seed in a bad AFC. Well, I think Peterman will open up the playbook, I think our receivers are going to be much more productive, hopefully that opens up running lanes for Shady. It's to early to put to much on Peterman right away, I don't think he will be as productive as Tyrod but at this point we need to see what we got in Peterman because Tyrod is never going to be that guy in Buffalo. It's pretty obvious Tyrod is gone, it makes sense for the future to go with Peterman but I think it hurts our chances this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, JPP said: Guess you didnt watch the games than.....you must of loved the rob ryan hire.... Weeks 3-6, we allowed point totals of 18, 0, 19, and 16. Are you sure you watched the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Man, that is truly wishful thinking, especially because Bills will be facing Bosa and Ingram. So, let’s be a bit conservative, also a Rookie’s best friend is a good running game. So, how about 19-28, 234 yds, 1 TD 1Int, but because of his use of WCO, running game breaks 100 yds again, and they get 2 rushing TDs and a FG, so 24 points. Been a long 30 years for me...lol I just want them to be good again, like we all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: We had the 5th seed before the KC fiasco when we were killing them passing the ball and Taylor got amnesia and forgot Sammy was on his team. The defense was terrible in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Perk71 said: Been a long 30 years for me...lol I just want them to be good again, like we all do. Haha!! For all of us my man, for all of us...and I think Peterman has a chance to be good in Rico’s Offense, not to say he will be but I like his skill-set and what he does naturally. However, only time and actual demonstration will prove that out...so with hope, we wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Weeks 3-6, we allowed point totals of 18, 0, 19, and 16. Are you sure you watched the games? 2016-against playoff teams , the defense gave up an average of 33 points. The offense averaged 25 points. The defense Sunday was even worse than any Ryan defense we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, JM2009 said: 2016-against playoff teams , the defense gave up an average of 33 points. The offense averaged 25 points. The defense Sunday was even worse than any Ryan defense we had. Interesting facts. What's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Well, I think Peterman will open up the playbook, I think our receivers are going to be much more productive, hopefully that opens up running lanes for Shady. It's to early to put to much on Peterman right away, I don't think he will be as productive as Tyrod but at this point we need to see what we got in Peterman because Tyrod is never going to be that guy in Buffalo. It's pretty obvious Tyrod is gone, it makes sense for the future to go with Peterman but I think it hurts our chances this year. And all of this will help our defense as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: His point is that he's an upgrade over Bortles and with the Jags D they'd be much better. I get it, but it’s an absurd ‘hot take’, IMHO. Taylor isn’t getting any team to the SB. Maybe the 85 Bears. He’s just way too easy to game plan against and when you get deep into the playoffs, the teams left usually have both the players and coaches to completely neutralize a TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, dubs said: Adam Schein is a dope. Most of the media are bozos. No idea is the move will work but one thing that was certain was that’s Taylor was way too limited to do anything significant. He is what he is, .500 QB. Just a ridiculous hot take. Modern media excels at sensationalism meant to garner clicks. Tyrod may or may not be an upgrade over Bortles, but Super Bowl contender with Tyrod is absurd. Does anyone really believe that TT would beat Brady or Roethlisberger in a playoff game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Last year at this time, 6 AFC teams had above .500 records. Today, 6 AFC teams have above .500 records. 8-8 will never be enough. Every year someone says it could be enough and it never is. The AFC is bad this year. We beat the right teams this year so far in Oakland and Denver and the one Jets win. Miami is bad, Baltimore isn't very good. 8-8 or 9-7 will get the sixth seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Just a ridiculous hot take. Modern media excels at sensationalism meant to garner clicks. Tyrod may or may not be an upgrade over Bortles, but Super Bowl contender with Tyrod is absurd. Does anyone really believe that TT would beat Brady or Roethlisberger in a playoff game? Oh man, virtual jynx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Weeks 3-6, we allowed point totals of 18, 0, 19, and 16. Are you sure you watched the games? So your actually comparing the team from 2016 from the team we seen this season really?? We won those 4 games because of our offence and not the defence.....remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JM2009 said: The AFC is bad this year. We beat the right teams this year so far in Oakland and Denver and the one Jets win. Miami is bad, Baltimore isn't very good. 8-8 or 9-7 will get the sixth seed. The Broncos win will more likely end up meaningless. 8-8 will certainly not get the sixth seed. I'd bet my life on it. It won't happen. 1 minute ago, JPP said: So your actually comparing the team from 2016 from the team we seen this season really?? We won those 4 games because of our offence and not the defence.....remember We won a game where we held the opponent to zero points "not because of the defense?" What? I'm saying the 2016 season looked semi-promising and then turned to ****. Yes, I'm comparing it to this season where we looked promising and turned to ****. I don't see why that's unfair. Edited November 16, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 The Chargers haven't allowed more than 26 points in any single game despite playing against teams such as the Eagles, Chiefs, and Patriots. Be ready Nate! http://www.chargers.com/schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 There's a good take on NFL Network, but I can't seem to link the direct video. Heath Evans with a strong take... http://www.nfl.com/network/shows/nfl-total-access?icampaign=network_totalaccess_homepagecarousel# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, dubs said: Oh man, virtual jynx! I hope not. Now I’m worried that TT will pass for over 150 yards in a playoff gam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: The Broncos win will more likely end up meaningless. 8-8 will certainly not get the sixth seed. I'd bet my life on it. It won't happen. We won a game where we held the opponent to zero points "not because of the defense?" What? OMG man really......your talking about the New England game minus Tom Brady,,,,,minus Garrapollo and they were starting their newly found 3rd string QB in Bissett........nice try......dont your remember watching that game either.......like i said if we had rex continuing his coaching with this team instead of McD nobody would be talking about WC etc etc....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: The Broncos win will more likely end up meaningless. 8-8 will certainly not get the sixth seed. I'd bet my life on it. It won't happen. We won a game where we held the opponent to zero points "not because of the defense?" What? I'm saying the 2016 season looked semi-promising and then turned to ****. Yes, I'm comparing it to this season where we looked promising and turned to ****. I don't see why that's unfair. The Bills are right now in the drivers seat for that sixth spot. Beat the Chargers, Miami twice, and the bad Colts team at home, no one will top that 9-7, 7-5 AFC record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I hope not. Now I’m worried that TT will pass for over 150 yards in a playoff gam. No, I mean because we posted the same thing at the same time. Two posts passing in the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Peterman is the 17th QB of the 17 year drought. Prophetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, dubs said: No, I mean because we posted the same thing at the same time. Two posts passing in the night. Gotcha, just read yours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, JM2009 said: The Bills are right now in the drivers seat for that sixth spot. Beat the Chargers, Miami twice, and the bad Colts team at home, no one will top that 9-7, 7-5 AFC record. I agree.....as long as we somehow maintain this and hope for the other teams to lose here and there.........thats why i agree too the chargers game is key now......would of liked to have beaten the jets but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, JPP said: I agree.....as long as we somehow maintain this and hope for the other teams to lose here and there.........thats why i agree too the chargers game is key now......would of liked to have beaten the jets but oh well This is a huge game Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I think the TEAM blows. They started out hot and teams have caught on. trading the better young talented players on the team only made it worse. Basically what they did was turn a talented team that needed a few adjustments(mainly better coaching on the defensive side of the ball) and morphed it into a 3 year rebuild project....for no apparent reason. Most fans(at least I think)will be on board this year no matter how many losses they rack up to close out the season, but if they don't start out hot in the 2018 campaign it will get ugly and once again the wheels will spin. I basically agree with your take on this and have generally hated the way they have stripped the team of young talent in order to get "their" guys and run "their" system. Tyrod in last year's offense with abetter defense this year would clearly have taken them to the playoffs. But unfortunately, we're in the McDermott/Beane era now, and I figure I either have to give up on the team for a while (I was close to being at that point) or hope they can get enough of their own talent on the field to win some games. Under those circumstances I think playing Peterman over Tyrod (who is not suited to the kind of offense Dennison is insisting on running) is a good move, and it's given me at least temporary hope that it will bear fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Intersting tidbit---Peterman, Jones and Dawkins all played together in the Senior Bowl and Jones was definitely Peterman's favorite target...I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones go over 100 yards this week for the first time...Peterman definitely has some comfort level with him. Edited November 16, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Haha!! For all of us my man, for all of us...and I think Peterman has a chance to be good in Rico’s Offense, not to say he will be but I like his skill-set and what he does naturally. However, only time and actual demonstration will prove that out...so with hope, we wait. If he isn't the answer at least they'll know going into the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Perk71 said: If he isn't the answer at least they'll know going into the off season. If he isn't, they are throwing away a golden chance at the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, JM2009 said: The Bills are right now in the drivers seat for that sixth spot. Beat the Chargers, Miami twice, and the bad Colts team at home, no one will top that 9-7, 7-5 AFC record. We were talking about 8-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: We were talking about 8-8. I was. You just like to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, JM2009 said: I was. You just like to argue. I just told you 8-8 won't be good enough and then you're telling me about playoffs at 9-7. Ooooooookay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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