HuSeYiN_NYC Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) This is a good problem to have either way you look at it. Depth at linebacker is what we thought we were missing before the season started. Frazier must feel like a little kid playing with G.I. Joes. So many different ways to go about it. Me personally, I would love to see Zo call the defensive plays while Preston Brown gets a breather for a couple plays. Many times i look at Brown and he just looks gassed. Zo, Humber and Milano on the field at the same time while Preston catches his breath. Then Zo can also substitute for one of our defensive ends also when one of them are tired. Edited October 31, 2017 by HuSeYiN_NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I watched the condensed game and just concentrated on Milano every play. He was decent to pretty good. Didn't stand out at all. Did fairly well in coverage usually. Didn't get off blocks all that well. We love the TD but it did just bounce right in his hands so that was a luck play more than skill. The strip on the KO was great. Easily his best play. He wasn't great in any way but he was decent to pretty good. Funny how well coached teams with players that are always in the right positions seem to be much "luckier" than other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 As well as Humber played this year I still do not see how you take Milano off the field. He is making plays and can cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Funny how well coached teams with players that are always in the right positions seem to be much "luckier" than other teams... The bounce straight up in the air was lucky it went right to him. The Bills as a team run to the ball and look for plays like that. I dont think the recovery was lucky per se. The great hit by Johnson caused it. But the ball could have gone anywhere. You dont practice it popping up and going to a specific spot. Good teams do seem to make their own luck though. Dont know how it works but its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 This is a good problem to have either way you look at it. Depth at linebacker is what we thought we were missing before the season started. Frazier must feel like a little kid playing with G.I. Joes. So many different ways to go about it. Me personally, I would love to see Zo call the defensive plays while Preston Brown gets a breather for a couple plays. Many times i look at Brown and he just looks gassed. Zo, Humber and Milano on the field at the same time while Preston catches his breath. Then Zo can also substitute for one of our defensive ends also when one of them are tired. I disagree with letting Zo call plays. While yes he is a veteran, he hasn't been a starter or even played that much on defense in his career. More of a special teams guy. That's not someone I'd feel extremely confident in calling even a few plays on the field. He's a solid veteran but calling plays is a bit over the top in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Humber back with the 1s at practice today....I am sure Milano will still get PT, and the way this coaching staff makes in game/on the fly adjustments...you can be sure they will yank Humber if they think they would be getting better production out of Milano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Humber back with the 1s at practice today....I am sure Milano will still get PT, and the way this coaching staff makes in game/on the fly adjustments...you can be sure they will yank Humber if they think they would be getting better production out of Milano Great point! Our in-game adjustments have been great this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The bounce straight up in the air was lucky it went right to him. The Bills as a team run to the ball and look for plays like that. I dont think the recovery was lucky per se. The great hit by Johnson caused it. But the ball could have gone anywhere. You dont practice it popping up and going to a specific spot. Good teams do seem to make their own luck though. Dont know how it works but its true. Agreed that the ball could have gone anywhere but there were several Bills around that play and no Raiders so wherever that ball went, a Bill was going to fall on it. I think it goes to good coaching and good player discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Agreed that the ball could have gone anywhere but there were several Bills around that play and no Raiders so wherever that ball went, a Bill was going to fall on it. I think it goes to good coaching and good player discipline. Agreed. That they practice everyday. McD has been great about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 As well as Humber played this year I still do not see how you take Milano off the field. He is making plays and can cover. Agreed, it would be a terrible move for McD to do this especially if it's for the sake of 'keeping his word'. Nothing against Humber, he's a great guy to have but Milano's upside is ridiculous compared to Humber being a finished product at this stage of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @MatthewFairburn Bills LB Ramon Humber said he plans on playing Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Agreed, it would be a terrible move for McD to do this especially if it's for the sake of 'keeping his word'. Nothing against Humber, he's a great guy to have but Milano's upside is ridiculous compared to Humber being a finished product at this stage of his career. oh yea totally! Its impossible for players to get better once they are over the age of 25, thats science and you cant argue with science!! get out of here with your weak, middle school takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 oh yea totally! Its impossible for players to get better once they are over the age of 25, thats science and you cant argue with science!! get out of here with your weak, middle school takes Milano has outplayed Humber (who wasn't terrible). And even if they were equal on the field you go with the rookie over the 30 year old veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Milano has outplayed Humber (who wasn't terrible). And even if they were equal on the field you go with the rookie over the 30 year old veteran. He hasn't though. By a long shot. Humber was very solid. Milano has made a couple singular great plays. He has a good future. Humber was playing the position better all around though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Milano has outplayed Humber (who wasn't terrible). And even if they were equal on the field you go with the rookie over the 30 year old veteran. Well that is a different point than what you said, still wrong, but a different point. You insinuated Milano should play because he is a rookie who can get better, while Humber cannot possibly get better ("reached his ceiling") because hes a vet...that is utterly ridiculous. Humber was playing extremely well early on before the injury. Milano has made a couple really big plays, and has also looked like a rookie at times. I bet you will see them both, and often, throughout games as long as both are healthy and still producing. Why does everything have to be either/or with people??? Most of the world is grey, not white/black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I disagree with letting Zo call plays. While yes he is a veteran, he hasn't been a starter or even played that much on defense in his career. More of a special teams guy. That's not someone I'd feel extremely confident in calling even a few plays on the field. He's a solid veteran but calling plays is a bit over the top in my opinion. Zo is a smart guy and based on the interviews he's given as a Bill, sounds like a man that knows the playbook inside out and the way he expresses himself is clear and uncut... I wonder (based on the interviews I've seen of Brown) when there's confusion on defense, is it because Brown is like, Uhhhhh Low 32 uhhhhhh rodeo uhhhhh flat uhhhh Blitz ... Just kidding with the Brown thing but there's no reason why Zo couldn't handle it for a down as a substitute to give Brown a breather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Well that is a different point than what you said, still wrong, but a different point. You insinuated Milano should play because he is a rookie who can get better, while Humber cannot possibly get better ("reached his ceiling") because hes a vet...that is utterly ridiculous. Humber was playing extremely well early on before the injury. Milano has made a couple really big plays, and has also looked like a rookie at times. I bet you will see them both, and often, throughout games as long as both are healthy and still producing. Why does everything have to be either/or with people??? Most of the world is grey, not white/black. Like McD himself said, it's a great problem to have. I'm not bashing Humber by any means, he's a great field good story for the team similar to Zo Alexander (who is still graded out as a top pass rusher by PFF despite not having the gaudy sack numbers). But Milano made two game changing plays against the Raiders and is playing with some serious momentum right now and deserves playing time regardless. Perhaps the best solution is to keep him in on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The only issue is there is limit on number of players who can have the helmet with the radio in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I put this in the good problem to have category. I think Milano may have played himself into a starting role, or at least a time-share. I also expect McD to attempt to find a stud MLB in the draft like he had in Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Best thing they can do is rotate them and include Tanner to give him some def reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Matt seems like he's taken advantage of his opportunity and if he keeps playing like this and improving with each game, he may stick around as a starter and replace Alexander on the other side. His speed has been quite noticeable compared to our other linebackers and he's shown he has the potential to be a very solid linebacker. Could potentially a nice find late in the 2017 draft. .... How soon some forget Humbers play before the thumb injury. I recall speed being a big part of his game...just saying..... Sent from my LGLS992 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Humber was playing at a very high level. Glad to have him back, and I expect to see Milano come in on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I think Milano deserves a hard look for starter. The thing I find fun about this is how all of you are quick to forget we only have him because we gave up td mike for the 5th rounder. We snagged him with that pick. Begs the question which player would you rather have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fansince88 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 3:36 AM, CDogg20 said: I think Milano deserves a hard look for starter. The thing I find fun about this is how all of you are quick to forget we only have him because we gave up td mike for the 5th rounder. We snagged him with that pick. Begs the question which player would you rather have? You mean "healthy scratch" Mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Milano needs to be moved to full time MLB and play every single snap. He is the best LB on our team, good things happen when he’s on the field. Passing lanes are smaller, there seem to be more opportunities for turnovers. He is fast, young and physical. Preston Brown is way to slow to play MLB in this defense, move him to SLB where he belongs. Milano should be the centerpiece and face of this defense going forward. The guy needs to be on the field all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Milano needs to be moved to full time MLB and play every single snap. He is the best LB on our team, good things happen when he’s on the field. Passing lanes are smaller, there seem to be more opportunities for turnovers. He is fast, young and physical. Preston Brown is way to slow to play MLB in this defense, move him to SLB where he belongs. Milano should be the centerpiece and face of this defense going forward. The guy needs to be on the field all game. Agreed that he needs to be on the field, however... Milano is suited for the WLB position in this defense. His athleticism and versatility can be showcased there. At MLB we'd see his weaknesses magnified: sifting through traffic and shedding linemen's blocks. A faster MLB would be awesome. But I don't think Milano is the right fit there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Milano needs to be moved to full time MLB and play every single snap. He is the best LB on our team, good things happen when he’s on the field. Passing lanes are smaller, there seem to be more opportunities for turnovers. He is fast, young and physical. Preston Brown is way to slow to play MLB in this defense, move him to SLB where he belongs. Milano should be the centerpiece and face of this defense going forward. The guy needs to be on the field all game. I hope he’s not the MLB of our future. Looking at our current LB unit, I’d be fine with him playing Mlb, strictly because we may have the worst Lb unit in the league. Going forward, I think he suits the WLB spot very well and should start there next to a draft pick or FA that isn’t currently on the team. Id prefer to start Humber at MLB and Milano at WLb to see if Milano can show improvement and can take the WLB position next season. Brown can go at any time. 9 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Agreed that he needs to be on the field, however... Milano is suited for the WLB position in this defense. His athleticism and versatility can be showcased there. At MLB we'd see his weaknesses magnified: sifting through traffic and shedding linemen's blocks. A faster MLB would be awesome. But I don't think Milano is the right fit there. 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Linebackers that can cover sideline to sideline are pivotal in defenses now especially with the emergence of tight ends in this league. We could always get Mario Williams back he loves to drop into coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Agreed that he needs to be on the field, however... Milano is suited for the WLB position in this defense. His athleticism and versatility can be showcased there. At MLB we'd see his weaknesses magnified: sifting through traffic and shedding linemen's blocks. A faster MLB would be awesome. But I don't think Milano is the right fit there. Maybe I’m being greedy but I want to play Milano at MLB now. Let him get control of the calls on the field and being the brain of the defense this year, then draft an even faster guy in April to play WLB. The game has changed. LBs need to be able to run. I want Milano to play MLB and by next year he will have already had a year of this Defense under his belt. Bring in an even faster guy in the offseason and let him play WLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 While Humber was hurt this guy played his butt off & made a lot of plays it almost seemed as though when Humber came back that was when the D started its down hill slide . I I thought McD would see that & change things back & have Humber as the rotation guy ... I think Millano is a better fit for this D it needs his speed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, T master said: While Humber was hurt this guy played his butt off & made a lot of plays it almost seemed as though when Humber came back that was when the D started its down hill slide . I I thought McD would see that & change things back & have Humber as the rotation guy ... I think Millano is a better fit for this D it needs his speed !! ....EXACTLY!.....injury was unfortunate but this kid is a baller......reminds me of Dopey Dickie Jauron's luvfest with vets.......Anthiny Thomas was his man while FredEx rode the pine....STILL remember the game when we were 1st and goal and "A-Caboose"....sorry...."Train" failed THREE times to get it in.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Weak side linebacker is good for him. He needs more PT in the rotation. Zo is more of a part times player at this point. We only really have 4 guys with Humber included who belong on the field right now. Vallejo is not ready to do much yet. But, don't sleep on him either. Edited December 9, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, fansince88 said: You mean "healthy scratch" Mike? Milano was a terrific pick. It looks like the Pastries need a coach who can properly use his players to get the best out of them...like Rex did. ? Edited December 9, 2017 by Billsfansinceday1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Milano needs to be moved to full time MLB and play every single snap. He is the best LB on our team, good things happen when he’s on the field. Passing lanes are smaller, there seem to be more opportunities for turnovers. He is fast, young and physical. Preston Brown is way to slow to play MLB in this defense, move him to SLB where he belongs. Milano should be the centerpiece and face of this defense going forward. The guy needs to be on the field all game. Are you crazy? Put a 221 lb LB at MLB??? Thats light in COLLEGE for a MLB, forget about the NFL... He would be getting trucked by offensive lineman the entire game. Do you not understand the roles linebackers actually play in a defensive system? He would make a great WILL backer because he is fast and has good coverage skills, and for his size he seems like a good tackler...they are the linebackers most often asked to cover in a 4-3. I suggest you get a better understanding of the roles different linebackers play, because this is a downright ridiculous comment. Edited December 9, 2017 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Nice game today by the rook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 He cants play MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: He cants play MLB. Better at WLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He cants play MLB. He cans... its not 1982 anymore. LBs are there to cover. The days of the bigger LB are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: He cans... its not 1982 anymore. LBs are there to cover. The days of the bigger LB are over. MLB still have to shed blocks. He can play MLB on 3rd and 10, sure. I bet you that McD doesn't think he can play MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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