mrags Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Slow your troll and contribute something to the discussion. Never mind, it's beyond you. Keep trollin" you are right. I probably will. I just like to make you miserable. But back to the real topic. You discredited the source that someone else linked. I know it is probably false. Years and years of reading your useless crap has taught me to never put anything into useless links. But I understand why you shot the OP down so quickly. You can't have someone else coming here and copy and pasting links. That's your only purpose in life. I get it. Edited October 10, 2017 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Here's the post: https://facebook.com/search/?refid=8#!/groups/1405930252956886?view=permalink&id=1999912493558656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Here's the post: https://facebook.com/search/?refid=8#!/groups/1405930252956886?view=permalink&id=1999912493558656 Takes you to a facebook search page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 How else do you play yourself off a team? be late for meetings don't address head coach by name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Here's the post: https://facebook.com/search/?refid=8#!/groups/1405930252956886?view=permalink&id=1999912493558656 Doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Takes you to a facebook search page. https://m.facebook.com/groups/1405930252956886#!/groups/1405930252956886 This takes you to the group, it's a couple posts down. From Doran Wallace. Based on his comments Dareus was drunk and venting about a lot. I don't think Dareus actually knows for sure anything will happen, he was just drunk and spouting off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Doesn't work. hey. Just like you. Except for all the time you put into scouring numerous sites looking for information so you can be the first to post what Sammy had for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 be late for meetings don't address head coach by name Make yourself such a major pain in the ass that a team would choke down your insane contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 https://m.facebook.com/groups/1405930252956886#!/groups/1405930252956886 This takes you to the group, it's a couple posts down. From Doran Wallace. Based on his comments Dareus was drunk and venting about a lot. I don't think Dareus actually knows for sure anything will happen, he was just drunk and spouting off. I think the conversation happened and I don't think the kid is lying but the question is what Dareus was saying legit? Was he venting for the sake of venting or is he hearing something and then venting? If anything is happening, I think it would come from their agents and how they would know. Dareus is getting the least amount of snaps on our DL and Glenn doesn't look like he's our starting LT anymore. Something is definitely up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 How realistic is it to trade them for a WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 How realistic is it to trade them for a WR? If someone knows better than me, please correct me....but I think player for player trade is unlikely. We'll take a dead cap hit and absorbing another player contract. I think it's going to be for picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I would do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 If someone knows better than me, please correct me....but I think player for player trade is unlikely. We'll take a dead cap hit and absorbing another player contract. I think it's going to be for picks. unless... there's another team out there with a player that has a high cap hit and they are looking toner rid of them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 LEGIT POST from a 4-post forum member. And look at you, 1300+ posts, yet to have ONE legit one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Well other than the cap hit....... Just a shame though, he was an All Pro DT with the Williams Twins and Hughes a few years ago, and part of maybe the best front four the Bills ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Cut the fat. Yep. March 2017. I need way more than 16 pages of ignored users, SDS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Very difficult to bring in salary while absorbing dead money. I hear you. As I understand it, though, if the Bills trade a player now, the amortized bonus accelerates into next year's cap, not this (that's certainly true if a player is traded at the deadline). Per OTC, Bills have $7M in cap at present. Trading Dareus would save $6.7M of his current guaranteed salary so $13.7M in cap. Trading Glenn would save $6.2M of his current guaranteed salary so $19.9M in cap Bottom line, assuming we could trade them and have the bonus go into next year's cap, we do have cap space to take on some salary. Next question: to trade a player, especially a high-paid player, during the season, you need a team that has reason to believe that player would make an immediate impact. This is where it gets more questionable. For Dareus, I would think the best candidate trade partner might be the Eagles. Dareus was a star of stars under Jim Schwartz. Like all coaches, I'm sure Schwartz would think he could motivate MD and bring him back to form. And maybe he could - certainly MD's skillset shone in 2014 under Schwartz. The Eagles are 4-1 and are look poised to contend with a #6 scoring offense, but their D is in the middle of the pack, has been giving up fairly mediocre YPA and YPP numbers. Looking ahead, they have to think if their D could take a step, they're a serious Championship threat. And, without the bonus money, Dareus contract the next 2 years isn't bad. But, the Eagles only have $6.9 in cap. Wait, $6.7M MD salary remaining - in theory, they could do this. Then the next question would be: is there someone the Eagles are willing to trade to us, that would fill a need? Clearly we need a WR. Alshon Jeffrey? I wouldn't give him up. But....the Eagles have 2 other legit top WR and a top TE. Jeffrey is on a 1 year contract. If they like their bench, would we do it? I dunno, I think trying to move one of those guys to bring in a piece we need isn't beyond the realm. Both, I don't see how we can do it. Edited October 10, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I can't see big moves happening in season. Cleary both days are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Next year the Bills will have a large number of high end picks, six picks in the first three rounds. Since that's the case if there is no change in Dareus's attitude and work habits then just take the cap hit and move on. Because we have so many picks next year's roster should have a disproportionate number of young players whose salary will be manageable. McDermott and Beane have clearly stated the type of players they want. It's clear that Dareus doesn't fit in. It's a shame to see players not play up to their potential. There was a period of time when Dareus demonstrated that he was one of the best interior linemen in the league. If he had the desire and commitment he would be worth his contract. Unless there is an unlikely dramatic change in Dareus's approach to the game it is best for him and the team to move on from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) I hear you. As I understand it, though, if the Bills trade a player now, the amortized bonus accelerates into next year's cap, not this (that's certainly true if a player is traded at the deadline). Per OTC, Bills have $7M in cap at present. Trading Dareus would save $6.7M of his current guaranteed salary so $13.7M in cap. Trading Glenn would save $6.2M of his current guaranteed salary so $19.9M in cap Bottom line, assuming we could trade them and have the bonus go into next year's cap, we do have cap space to take on some salary. Next question: to trade a player, especially a high-paid player, during the season, you need a team that has reason to believe that player would make an immediate impact. This is where it gets more questionable. For Dareus, I would think the best candidate trade partner might be the Eagles. Dareus was a star of stars under Jim Schwartz. Like all coaches, I'm sure Schwartz would think he could motivate MD and bring him back to form. And maybe he could - certainly MD's skillset shone in 2014 under Schwartz. The Eagles are 4-1 and are look poised to contend with a #6 scoring offense, but their D is in the middle of the pack, has been giving up fairly mediocre YPA and YPP numbers. Looking ahead, they have to think if their D could take a step, they're a serious Championship threat. And, without the bonus money, Dareus contract the next 2 years isn't bad. But, the Eagles only have $6.9 in cap. Wait, $6.7M MD salary remaining - in theory, they could do this. Then the next question would be: is there someone the Eagles are willing to trade to us, that would fill a need? Clearly we need a WR. Alshon Jeffrey? I wouldn't give him up. But....the Eagles have 2 other legit top WR and a top TE. Jeffrey is on a 1 year contract. If they like their bench, would we do it? I dunno, I think trying to move one of those guys to bring in a piece we need isn't beyond the realm. Both, I don't see how we can do it. The Eagles have Fletcher Cox at DT. They don't need Dareus. Edited October 10, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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