MarlinTheMagician Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Somebody said TT should not be put in the same class as Dalton. Waaaah! The rusty musket - looking good Andy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnallen Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I think TT showed improvement in his pocket awareness. He threw the ball away on several occasions where he didn't see anything. He didn't seem to run after his first read. Hopefully, his ability to read through his progressions continues to improve to the point where he is finding an open target rather than throwing the ball away. Â He could really use a deep threat that can get open in space as TT isn't the type of QB who can make completions to a covered receiver. At least not yet. Â He is currently 8th in QBR, just behind Dak Prescott and Dereck Carr. He is 14th in passing yards and 10th in QB Rating. Not bad considering all his receivers are new and he had limited reps in pre-season. Â All and all, not a bad start for TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I saw nothing of the sort. he is still the #1 problem on this offense. The few plays he makes with his legs doesn't add up to the missed throws he has down the field. This is just pure ignorance. The #1 problem is easily RT and it's not even close. Saying Tyrod is the #1 problem is flat out wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I respectfully but strenuously disagree with the tenor of your response regarding TT. He is what he has been and has not grown from being Tyrod 1 to Tyrod 2. There are limitations to his game regarding reading defenses and going through progressions that are starkly evident. He has little ability to make anticipatory throws that are part and parcel of going through progressions. He can hit the open receiver but he can't consistently hit the receiver in stride ahead of him making his move. Â Was TT better than in prior seasons? Yes. But only incrementally better. The offense is geared toward what he can do well and not what he can't do well. That is the right approach to take. My prediction is that before the season is over Peterman will be given an opportunity to play in order to see what he can do. Peterman more so than TT has an ability to run a more rounded passing offense that uses more of the field. Tyrod did good yesterday but IMO Peterman wouldn't have done any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Tyrod did good yesterday but IMO Peterman wouldn't have done any worse.You know the old joke about what opinions are like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 He is currently 8th in QBR, just behind Dak Prescott and Dereck Carr. He is 14th in passing yards and 10th in QB Rating. Not bad considering all his receivers are new and he had limited reps in pre-season. Â Â Taylor is 10th in QB rating, but that includes Jacoby Brisset (7th), who has thrown three passes, and Sean Mannion (3rd), who has thrown one pass. But Sean completed his one pass and who can argue with perfection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Taylor looked like the same QB he has always been, but I have no issues with his play yesterday and the INT wasn't really his fault. He was more than good enough to beat a hapless Jets team. Â But something tells me his glaring flaws and deficiencies will be on full display next week in Carolina against a much better team and defense. Â Something tells me your glaring bias will be on full display all season. I think you guys need to meet in the parking lot after work to settle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) I think you guys need to meet in the parking lot after work to settle this. Â Exactly. As soon as I saw SaviorPeterman & TaylorTime duking it out, I thought this is a cage match waiting to happen..... Edited September 11, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The thing with TT is this: it's like going to a steakhouse when you really are hungry for Italian. You could have a great steak, cooked just the way you like, everything good. But it doesn't matter because what you really wanted was Italian. Â TT can play good football, but no matter how he does, if your idea of a QB is the big, strong armed guy that can make throws, like a Big Ben or a Rodgers, it won't matter how a guy like TT does. You just won't like it because it's not what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The thing with TT is this: it's like going to a steakhouse when you really are hungry for Italian. You could have a great steak, cooked just the way you like, everything good. But it doesn't matter because what you really wanted was Italian. Â TT can play good football, but no matter how he does, if your idea of a QB is the big, strong armed guy that can make throws, like a Big Ben or a Rodgers, it won't matter how a guy like TT does. You just won't like it because it's not what you want. Â Exactly right. And that is the core issue that causes most of the arguments here on this forum in regards to its current starting quarterback. A lot of guys hate eating steak around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Â Exactly right. And that is the core issue that causes most of the arguments here on this forum in regards to its current starting quarterback. A lot of guys hate eating steak around here. Tired of Italian myself, Â @ AFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'll keep this short, Taylor showed huge improvements in his game and it was evident from the first series. Specifically in the pocket.  His footwork, poise and speed scanning the field looks to have improved drastically. A huge drop by Clay turned 7 into 0 and some very smart throwaways decreased his completion percentage but we totally dominated and controlled this game. He converted some big 3rd downs, and used his legs very effectively.  Make no mistake, this offense runs through Shady but I think we are witnessing the evolution of Tyrod Taylor. I really felt Dennison held back big time in the 4th and just sat on the lead, up 2 scores, dominant defensive performance, that's fine but I'm really excited to see Taylor grow in this scheme and get comfortable with the WR corps.  This was a true team win, well , maybe minus ST, but for the first time in quite some time the O and D both showed up, 400+ yards on O , just over 200 allowed. Taylor's stats weren't eye popping but he did what needed to be done and looked vastly improved in the pocket. I'm really excited to see us match up with Carolina, I don't see any reason we can't have the same outcome.  Tyrod 2.0 is here  He is who he is, he looked good against a really bad team which he has in the past, he will never be more than an average passer against good competition. Just my opinion though, he did a good job against the Jets though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Tired of Italian myself, Â Â Awfully fond of sushi, but I'm damned if I know which quarterback that links me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Â Awfully fond of sushi, but I'm damned if I know which quarterback that links me to. Tannehill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Tannehill... Â I guess there's a certain unpleasant logic to that. Still, we're getting dangerously close to the bad old days when this board was roiled over the question : Is a hot dog a sandwich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Â I guess there's a certain unpleasant logic to that. Still, we're getting dangerously close to the bad old days when this board was roiled over the question : Is a hot dog a sandwich? I was just thinking dead fish. Though you could argue he's still pretty raw too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The thing with TT is this: it's like going to a steakhouse when you really are hungry for Italian. You could have a great steak, cooked just the way you like, everything good. But it doesn't matter because what you really wanted was Italian. Â TT can play good football, but no matter how he does, if your idea of a QB is the big, strong armed guy that can make throws, like a Big Ben or a Rodgers, it won't matter how a guy like TT does. You just won't like it because it's not what you want. I don't agree with this analogy at all. I was a huge fan of Taylor's early on. Didn't want him to be like any qb in particular. Â Just a better version of himself. Â I'm not seeing any true growth in his game. I think we've seen his best and don't think it'll be good enough against good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It wasn't a phenomenal performance, but I saw Tyrod do some nice things yesterday. There was one throw to Clay which was the definition of anticipatory. He threw the ball before Clay made his break to the area Clay would be moments later. Great completion over the middle. I saw him step up in the pocket at least once. I saw him use the middle of the field and hit receivers on target setting up for yards after the catch. Only once or twice did I scream "throw the f@#$ing football!" at the television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'd like for the coaches to trust him to throw the ball even when we're ahead. We go into time management mode with any lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'd like for the coaches to trust him to throw the ball even when we're ahead. We go into time management mode with any lead. So you think they didn't trust him to throw it in the 4th? Not that we had successfully ran all day and could easily kill the clock and ensure a win? Strange take, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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